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NDinFL said:
Miami will absolutely give us their best shot.

Look how well BC played us last year, same with the game against Pitt...

We are Notre Dame, people love being able to say that they beat Notre Dame, ESPECIALLY a top 10 ranked, undefeated Notre Dame.

On paper we're better, and have played better opponents, but come Saturday, all that sh*t means nothing.

I hope some of us around here aren't penciling this in as a "W" already, because I haven't
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I have not either, but I think it is one thing for the pundits and fans to expect a W, it is another if the team plays that way. I honestly think that this game could be a lot closer than ppl expect, ESPECIALLY if the offense continues to struggle so mightily. And also, Morris is one helluva different QB than ND has seen all year...ie, he can actually throw the ball.

ND better be able to play a much more complete game this week, and I think that they will.
 
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This feels like a game where it would be very much to our benefit to get out in front early. That's what we did in the Sun Bowl, and demoralized them. And they're still a young team, playing on the road, etc.
Going up 14-0, maybe forcing a couple of turnovers, would then let us shorten the game with our running attack, and prevent a shootout in which they might well prevail. Not a guaranteed W at all.
 
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ND has done a good job of scoring early in their games, which is obvious with the mention that they haven't trailed yet this year. I truly think the lack of offense comes from BK being a little gun shy from all of the turnovers and blown games last year. ND has had no problem early in the games and then gets super conservative once a lead is established and the defense playing well. Once BK starts trusting this team more, I fully expect him to keep his foot on the gas for the entire game.
 
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I just re-watched Miami's game vs. NC State; it was a really sloppy game. Miami can strike quick but NC State was running easily on them. I think if our d slows them down and avoids the quick strike, we'll be able to control the ball and the game.
 
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Fearless predictions:

1). Rested, Focussed, and Violent ND defense grinds them up all game;
2). Shembo goes crazy powerful; People start talking about him nationally;
3). Everett's light turns on;
4). It's a game, sort of, but we look like the winner from the get-go.
 
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rocket66 said:
ND has done a good job of scoring early in their games, which is obvious with the mention that they haven't trailed yet this year. I truly think the lack of offense comes from BK being a little gun shy from all of the turnovers and blown games last year. ND has had no problem early in the games and then gets super conservative once a lead is established and the defense playing well. Once BK starts trusting this team more, I fully expect him to keep his foot on the gas for the entire game.
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Notre Dame didn't score in the first quarter against Purdue or Michigan. This isn't last season, during which the offense would cruise on its first drive.

This offense has serious issues right now, and in my opinion very little of it is being too conservative. If anything, if you have supreme confidence in your defense you're more willing to get aggressive.

I think the problem is simply that the coaches (wisely) opted to switch from a hurry-up offense to a multiple offense, which is the obvious move considering the personnel on this team. Notre Dame seemed to have three very capable tight ends (loaded with the infamous "potential") and an experience offensive line, so why not just run it right at teams? In addition, you have some incredible speed in your freshmen receivers to take pressure off the box. Sounds good, huh?

Well, it turns out the passing game isn't executing very well, Golson is missing deep throws, and the tight ends aren't so dominant that they can handle a loaded box. Not to mention a certain RG who is adequate, but not "good," and leaves the right A/B gaps susceptible.

I don't see conservatism. I see an offense that needs good quarterback play with a deep threat if it's going to continue to win the tough games.
 
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Buster Bluth said:
Notre Dame didn't score in the first quarter against Purdue or Michigan. This isn't last season, during which the offense would cruise on its first drive.

This offense has serious issues right now, and in my opinion very little of it is being too conservative. If anything, if you have supreme confidence in your defense you're more willing to get aggressive.

I think the problem is simply that the coaches (wisely) opted to switch from a hurry-up offense to a multiple offense, which is the obvious move considering the personnel on this team. Notre Dame seemed to have three very capable tight ends (loaded with the infamous "potential") and an experience offensive line, so why not just run it right at teams? In addition, you have some incredible speed in your freshmen receivers to take pressure off the box. Sounds good, huh?

Well, it turns out the passing game isn't executing very well, Golson is missing deep throws, and the tight ends aren't so dominant that they can handle a loaded box. Not to mention a certain RG who is adequate, but not "good," and leaves the right A/B gaps susceptible.

I don't see conservatism. I see an offense that need a good quarterback play with a deep threat if it's going to continue to win the tough games.
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Very true words BB.
 
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I'm hoping it's a chilly night in Chi-town; make it tough for the Sunshine State boys to get their engines started.
 
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Buster Bluth said:
Notre Dame didn't score in the first quarter against Purdue or Michigan. This isn't last season, during which the offense would cruise on its first drive.

This offense has serious issues right now, and in my opinion very little of it is being too conservative. If anything, if you have supreme confidence in your defense you're more willing to get aggressive.

I think the problem is simply that the coaches (wisely) opted to switch from a hurry-up offense to a multiple offense, which is the obvious move considering the personnel on this team. Notre Dame seemed to have three very capable tight ends (loaded with the infamous "potential") and an experience offensive line, so why not just run it right at teams? In addition, you have some incredible speed in your freshmen receivers to take pressure off the box. Sounds good, huh?

Well, it turns out the passing game isn't executing very well, Golson is missing deep throws, and the tight ends aren't so dominant that they can handle a loaded box. Not to mention a certain RG who is adequate, but not "good," and leaves the right A/B gaps susceptible.

I don't see conservatism. I see an offense that needs good quarterback play with a deep threat if it's going to continue to win the tough games.
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What about the play calling in the second half?
 
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Buster Bluth said:
Notre Dame didn't score in the first quarter against Purdue or Michigan. This isn't last season, during which the offense would cruise on its first drive.

This offense has serious issues right now, and in my opinion very little of it is being too conservative. If anything, if you have supreme confidence in your defense you're more willing to get aggressive.

I think the problem is simply that the coaches (wisely) opted to switch from a hurry-up offense to a multiple offense, which is the obvious move considering the personnel on this team. Notre Dame seemed to have three very capable tight ends (loaded with the infamous "potential") and an experience offensive line, so why not just run it right at teams? In addition, you have some incredible speed in your freshmen receivers to take pressure off the box. Sounds good, huh?

Well, it turns out the passing game isn't executing very well, Golson is missing deep throws, and the tight ends aren't so dominant that they can handle a loaded box. Not to mention a certain RG who is adequate, but not "good," and leaves the right A/B gaps susceptible.
I don't see conservatism. I see an offense that needs good quarterback play with a deep threat if it's going to continue to win the tough games.
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My point still stands that play calling gets super conservative once a lead is established. Not sure how you're missing that..
 
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My 2 cents worth are this. Miami is fast across the board and I think this is the best running game Notre Dame will face so far. The will throw deep too. They are more of a structured disciplined team under this new coach and I wouldnt judge them on there blowout loss to K State. Negative Nacy doesnt feel good about this one either. If they win this game watch out because the Irish may be back.
 
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Buster Bluth said:
Notre Dame didn't score in the first quarter against Purdue or Michigan. This isn't last season, during which the offense would cruise on its first drive.

This offense has serious issues right now, and in my opinion very little of it is being too conservative. If anything, if you have supreme confidence in your defense you're more willing to get aggressive.

I think the problem is simply that the coaches (wisely) opted to switch from a hurry-up offense to a multiple offense, which is the obvious move considering the personnel on this team. Notre Dame seemed to have three very capable tight ends (loaded with the infamous "potential") and an experience offensive line, so why not just run it right at teams? In addition, you have some incredible speed in your freshmen receivers to take pressure off the box. Sounds good, huh?

Well, it turns out the passing game isn't executing very well, Golson is missing deep throws, and the tight ends aren't so dominant that they can handle a loaded box. Not to mention a certain RG who is adequate, but not "good," and leaves the right A/B gaps susceptible.

I don't see conservatism. I see an offense that needs good quarterback play with a deep threat if it's going to continue to win the tough games.
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So what you are saying is that Tommy is God. Righ?
 
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Just found out I have a ticket to this game and I'm pretty stoked! It's in section 209. I know absolutely nothing about Soldier Field, anyone know if seats in that section are good? It looks like some might be kind of blocked by an overhang.
 
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My point still stands that play calling gets super conservative once a lead is established. Not sure how you're missing that..
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Oh you mean like that bomb to Eifert against Michigan to seal the game?

For me, calling a game gets "too conservative" when a team goes away from successful methods earlier in the game when the defense hasn't necessarily stopped them. Kelly did that at times last year. I haven't see him get "too conservative" this year.

I'm watching the second half of the Michigan State game, the first few drives:

1: pass, pass, run, punt

2: run, pass, pass, punt

3: pass, run, pass, pass, run, punt

4: pass, run, pass, punt

5: pass, pass, run, pass, punt

I stopped there. They were very much still attacking aggressively, but the consistency and execution just wasn't there.

EDIT: At the start of the fourth, the drive from inside the five yard line was:

6: run, run, pass, run, run, run, run (fourth down), run, run, run, field goal.

Not too conservative, in my opinion.

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The National Weather Service in Chicago has issued a Hurricane Warning for Saturday October 6th. Thunder (Mike James) and Lightning (Duke Johnson) are expected to cause severe problems for the area.

It's All About The []_[] !!!!
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Two full sentences and no big grammatical errors. I am proud of this Miami Hurricane fan. Keep up the good work.
 
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The Duke of Coral Gables said:
It's not trolling when it's true. You're defense can't keep up with our offense and your offense is trash. Remember the name Denzel Perryman. Makes that Samoan you call a linebacker look like sh*t.

IT'S GREAT---- TO BE---- A MIAMI HURRICANE!!!!
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LMFAO. Dude, just leave before you really embarrass yourself. It is way past your bedtime and you don't want your mommy or daddy getting a phone call because you fell asleep in homeroom.
 
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Anyone wanna bet this guy has lines shaved in one eyebrow, and is currently wearing at least 3 gold chains?
 
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The Duke of Coral Gables said:
It's not trolling when it's true. You're defense can't keep up with our offense and your offense is trash. Remember the name Denzel Perryman. Makes that Samoan you call a linebacker look like sh*t.

IT'S GREAT---- TO BE---- A MIAMI HURRICANE!!!!
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Well, if Kansas State can make your team look like a pop warner squad I like our chances. In case you forgot, I included a recap below from the SB Nation in Tampa.



Miami Vs. Kansas State Recap: Collin Klein Dominant As Wildcats Roll Hurricanes

By Jared Dubin on Sep 8, 3:39p


The No. 21 Kansas State Wildcats dominated the visiting Miami Hurricanes Saturday afternoon behind a four-touchdown performance from quarterback Collin Klein. Klein threw a touchdown pass and ran for three more scores on 22 carries in the Wildcats' 52-13 victory over the Hurricanes.

Kansas State had nine players combine to rush the ball an astounding 60 times for 289 yards and six touchdowns in all. Running back John Hubert ran 19 times for 107 yards and a touchdown, while Daniel Sams carried three times for 47 yards and two scores of his own.

Kansas State's running attack was so dominant that Klein had to throw just 11 passes against a Hurricane pass defense that gave up 441 passing yards to Chase Rettig of Boston College just last week. Klein completed nine of those attempts for 210 yards, an average of 19.1 yards per attempt.

Miami's defense again struggled mightily, as they allowed 499 yards of offense to the Wildcats to go along with their 52 points. The Hurricanes carried 34 times for 208 yards against the Eagles last week, but could only muster 43 yards on 29 carries against Kansas State's defense. Standout freshman running back Duke Johnson was held to just 22 yards on seven carries after going 135 yards on seven carries against Boston College, including two touchdown runs of greater than 50 yards.

Miami quarterback Stephen Morris was eventually pulled in favor of freshman Ryan Williams, who threw a touchdown pass to Clive Walford for the Hurricanes' only touchdown of the afternoon.

Box Score Hero: Collin Klein, who threw for 210 yards and a touchdown and ran for three more scores.

Rankings Ramifications: Nobody ahead of Kansas State lost as of the time the game ended, but with many teams still to play, it's possible the Wildcats could move up in the rankings with a loss or a poor performance from one of the top-20 teams.
 
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