Denard Robinson

[johnnykillz]

Oh yeah: Fvck Denard Robinson.

That is all.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I have thought that since he started. Michigan has gotten themselves a Charlie Weiss in Hoke.

EXACYLY!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Here's what I get from this argument:

- Kissme is the sharpest football chick ever. I mean seriously. How many gals can go toe to toe over a football argument using correct football jargon to this extent?

Here's what I don't get about this argument:

- What is there to win? We won. Shoelace had a terrible game. Did I mention we won...?

Let it go.

Come with me.

Breathe.

Ahhhh.

Peace.

And Miami in 2 weeks.

You right Johnny. Kissme the smartest football chick ever. Has more balls than most of the Michigan fans (the Walmart Wolverines) and some of the peeps here who love to become addicted to the cult of the personality.


See you are okay, because when you make that comment, you are not taking a damn thing away from the defense. They outran shoelaces this weekend. To the corner, to the safe spot in the pocket, etc.

Go Irish! Téigh Gaeilge!

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

Here's what I get from this argument:

- Kissme is the sharpest football chick ever. I mean seriously. How many gals can go toe to toe over a football argument using correct football jargon to this extent?

Here's what I don't get about this argument:

- What is there to win? We won. Shoelace had a terrible game. Did I mention we won...?

Let it go.

Come with me.

Breathe.

Ahhhh.

Peace.

And Miami in 2 weeks.

I am coming with you Johnny!!! I think my point was made after the first interception, or maybe the 4th...5th? Ok it had to be the fumble. GO IRISH!!!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I am coming with you Johnny!!! I think my point was made after the first interception, or maybe the 4th...5th? Ok it had to be the fumble. GO IRISH!!!

Wow, that sure sounded sick.

 

[johnnykillz]

I also get NDinL.A.'s argument too.

Denard is a tremendous athlete.

Probably a college only star, but amazing.

He has amassed a great career on us alone.

Credit where credit is due.

Lastly, Fvck Denard.

 

[ThePiombino]

If Denard 'sucks', then explain 2010 AND 2011. If he 'sucks', explain how he broke records against us. And if you say it was us, that doesn't explain why you didn't say we sucked last year on this board, and it doesn't explain what he did against other schools that makes him a standout.

See, we were all correct, and kissme was wrong on 2 major fronts:

#1) Denard doesn't suck. He sucks as a PASSER, which we all said all along! He got lucky with jump balls, but he has KILLED us with his feet and his ability to improvise, and yes, his ability to make a huge pass when needed (witness, the last drive in 2010 and 2011). So he sucks as a passer, which we all knew, and had a horrible game throwing the ball against a great gameplan, but he still doesn't suck as a football player. He's absolutely SICK as a football player, and pretty much beat us single-handedly for 2 straight years.

#2) kissme said that Denard didn't have the upperhand on us the past 2 years. I said it then and I'll say it again - WTF??????????? And she didn't just say it once out of frustration, she screamed it and never backed away from it, as ludicrous as it sounded to anyone who played or followed sports. When a guy beats you TWICE in the final seconds of a game, breaking your freaking backs while doing it, is undefeated again you, AND breaks all kinds of records doing it, ummmmmmmmm, sorry, the dude has the upperhand on you, and it's not even close.

Put it this way...if you went into a bar and argued kissme's argument, not only would you be laughed out of the bar, they would probably pay your tab because they felt sorry for you that you had no clue about sports. And if the tables were reversed, if WE had won 2 games with an unconventional QB leading the charge, then we would laugh our asses off at any Walmart Wolverine who attempted to make that ridiculous argument. I mean, these are all opinions, but this is about as close to fact as you're going to find. Just try and make her argument at a sports bar and you'll see what I mean.

Soooooooo, if you want to keep blindly defending her ridiculous arguments, have at it. But no one who knows a thing about sports is buying that she was a 'genius' (LOL) for making those 2 points. And using a Michigan fans perspective (you know, the same fans you were bagging on before the game) does nothing to bolster your argument.

Oh, and #3 - we all said that we'd beat Michigan (re-read the thread; you 2 tried and tried to say that we were all scared of Denard and that we were predicting a loss, when it wasn't even close to being the truth), so we were right there as well. I'll take 3 for 3 any day of the week...

NOBODY PUTS KISSME IN THE CORNER!!!

Wait. What year is it? Where am I...??

 

[greyhammer90]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!

 

[Ironman8]

This is just a really frustrating argument, but I just want to say one thing and then be out. There is no way to be that anyone can rationally think that Denard "sucks" as a football player. Does he "suck" as a passer - sure. We saw that first hand again on Saturday. To me, we won that game because of a combination of a misguided game plan by Michigan, worse execution, and good defense.

Despite Michigan's stinker on offense, it in no way shape or form allows me to think that Denard is anything less than a dynamic, imposing football player who opposing coaches must generate their game plan around. I'm sorry, but if every single coach who goes into a Michigan game has to specifically game plan around stopping one single player on offense, and that one player more often than not (admittedly not against superior teams recently) still destroys them, then he could never be confused with a player who "sucks".

Bogs and Kissme, specifically, are two of the biggest BK supporters I have ever seen, something I am sure they would agree with. How then, could their difference of opinion regarding Denard be so pronounced? Earlier this week, BK lauded Denard constantly as a football player, stating that he would be the best [total] football player on the field, and that he was not only a good player, but a superior player.

Denard may have his shortcomings, and I am extremely glad that we were able to exploit them and start this season 4-0, but come on. Denard is a special college football talent, and I truly think Michigan will realize what they had next year.

Hopefully the bye week can help us clean up our own QB issues and allow Everett to come out with poise and confidence in Chicago. Go Irish!

 

[PANDFAN]

white knights to the rescue..maybe someone will get it

 

[Bogtrotter07]

This is just a really frustrating argument, . . .

Bogs and Kissme, specifically, are two of the biggest BK supporters I have ever seen, something I am sure they would agree with. How then, could their difference of opinion regarding Denard be so pronounced? Earlier this week, BK lauded Denard constantly as a football player, stating that he would be the best [total] football player on the field, and that he was not only a good player, but a superior player.

. . .

Hopefully the bye week can help us clean up our own QB issues and allow Everett to come out with poise and confidence in Chicago. Go Irish!

Well I am not the biggest BK supporter. He has a size two extra large in the drawer . . .

Seriously, (that was funny, no?) I am a supporter of the way Brian Kelly does things. This weekend I stayed in a home with a pair of brothers, both ND grads. One was from Cinci. Without getting into detail, his family followed the same path as the Kelly's and that BCA Game in Kelly's first season where Paqui went up in the stands to sit with some women undergoing treatment? One was his wife before she passed. This guy told me stories of how the Kelly's were there for him and his children that you wouldn't believe. But that is not what I am even talking about.

The way Brian Kelly coaches works. I had a chance to personally thank Jack Swarbrick for bringing in Kelly. I told him about when Brian took time to get into a face making contest with my daughter Julia. That is when I knew he was the right guy for the job. That is gracefull style. And building up a program to play fifty guys in the first quarter. That is faith. Faith in yourself and those you empower.

So I guess that is the difference. I am fortunate to identify a night and day difference between actions of several different men.

And I would have expected BK to say what he did publically. I do not oppose him. But if a player said "Denard sucks," I dont think he would have been corrected.

I love all of you . . .

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

This is just a really frustrating argument, but I just want to say one thing and then be out. There is no way to be that anyone can rationally think that Denard "sucks" as a football player. Does he "suck" as a passer - sure. We saw that first hand again on Saturday. To me, we won that game because of a combination of a misguided game plan by Michigan, worse execution, and good defense.

Despite Michigan's stinker on offense, it in no way shape or form allows me to think that Denard is anything less than a dynamic, imposing football player who opposing coaches must generate their game plan around. I'm sorry, but if every single coach who goes into a Michigan game has to specifically game plan around stopping one single player on offense, and that one player more often than not (admittedly not against superior teams recently) still destroys them, then he could never be confused with a player who "sucks".

Bogs and Kissme, specifically, are two of the biggest BK supporters I have ever seen, something I am sure they would agree with. How then, could their difference of opinion regarding Denard be so pronounced? Earlier this week, BK lauded Denard constantly as a football player, stating that he would be the best [total] football player on the field, and that he was not only a good player, but a superior player.

Denard may have his shortcomings, and I am extremely glad that we were able to exploit them and start this season 4-0, but come on. Denard is a special college football talent, and I truly think Michigan will realize what they had next year.

Hopefully the bye week can help us clean up our own QB issues and allow Everett to come out with poise and confidence in Chicago. Go Irish!

Sho' nuff. I am a BK supporter, I being a Michigan resident, apperciate the things he did for our college's programs. But he's a coach, a professional, and he has couth and class. Some of those things can be perhaps inferred that I do not possess enough of...that being said, Brian Kelly can't very well say "Well my team is going to fold Denard like a lawn chair on Saturday because my defense is too legit to quit, and Denard couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a Learjet." And I have said, Denard is a playmaker and very fast, but a superior QB he is not. There are also times I wish Brian Kelly would simply put Mark May and Herbie in their places as well, but again the professionalism and class come into play. I know for a fact as purple as his face gets on the sidelines at times, and that cheshire cat grin he gets in press conferences etc...he agrees with me.

 

[koonja]

Alright, try to follow this as I add my two cents on Denard Robinson...

One of my best friends is dating a girl who's brother is the starting Michigan long-snapper. He said Denard is the most talented athlete he's ever met, but has next to zero work ethic. Claims he only goes through the motions and never goes above and beyond in practice, film, school, anything. I don't know him well enough to know if he has some vendetta against Denard, so TIFWIW.

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

Alright, try to follow this as I add my two cents on Denard Robinson...

One of my best friends is dating a girl who's brother is the starting Michigan long-snapper. He said Denard is the most talented athlete he's ever met, but has next to zero work ethic. Claims he only goes through the motions and never goes above and beyond in practice, film, school, anything. I don't know him well enough to know if he has some vendetta against Denard, so TIFWIW.

Makes sense. He was the only one on the field pre-game with massive head phones on, skipping like he was going to see the wizard.

 

[Kak7304]

I wish I was bad enough to rush for 1700 yds and 14 TDs in a season. Denard is unique talent but is a below average passer but quite possibly one of the best rushing QBs to play the college game. There's a reason his name has come up multiple times in the Heisman conversation in the past few years. To say Denard sucks is not only inaccurate but it also discredits the performance by our D and game planning by our staff.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

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[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

I wish I was bad enough to rush for 1700 yds and 14 TDs in a season. Denard is unique talent but is a below average passer but quite possibly one of the best rushing QBs to play the college game. There's a reason his name has come up multiple times in the Heisman conversation in the past few years. To say Denard sucks is not only inaccurate but it also discredits the performance by our D and game planning by our staff.

No it doesn't, that's weak. Me saying he sucks as a qb is a fact. It doesn't discredit our D, or game planning. The interceptions prove my point...the fumble and the fact that he never crossed the goal line Saturday night proves that our D line is legit. I knew he was going to choke, because if anyone ever reads my entire post I have said several times when you put him against a GOOD team or a team worth their salt he chokes. I was never afraid of him going up against ND, we've always been good enough to beat Michigan and Denard, we proved it saturday night and he choked, like he does anytime he's not playing a silly team.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Here's what I get from this argument:

- Kissme is the sharpest football chick ever. I mean seriously. How many gals can go toe to toe over a football argument using correct football jargon to this extent?

Yeaaa but she did the Weiss two S thing......

I have thought that since he started. Michigan has gotten themselves a Charlie Weiss in Hoke.

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[NDinL.A.]

1. Do you realize the hypocrisy of your that statement? You are basing your argument on what michigan fans are saying on the internet, and in the next breath bashing them for being stupid, and in the next step bashing some of our fans on this site. Sooooooo.....everyone is an idiot unless they agree with you and the great 'oracle' (LOL).

2. And speaking of oracle, that's some funny sh!t. So a poster who says Denard sucks (wrong) and says Denard didn't have the upperhand on us before that game (hysterically and embarrassingly wrong) is an oracle????? Wow. You're easy to please. I'll leave it at that.

When your team controls the scoreboard for 3 quarters of a game and let's a team come back and score 28 pts to beat you, then that loss is on your team, not the magnificent golden child that is known to the world as Shoelace.

LOL...did you watch the games? I mean, you claim to, and you claim to know your stuff. So if that's true, then who do you think brought them back (almost single-handedly)??? Yup, the guy you claim sucks. The guy you claim didn't have the upperhand on ND beat us twice, closed the games a la Joe Montana, and broke records while doing it. He is the epitome of having the upperhand on someone (before this last game), and you're so blinded by your hatred of Michigan (or your lack of knowledge of how sports work - you choose) that you can't see it. That's on you. The fact that you continue to argue that point is quite frankly embarrassing to your knowledge as a sports fan. He had the ultimate 'scoreboard b!tches!' over us on and you still can't see it.

Michigan had more time of possession, more rushing, more of mostly everything Saturday night and what killed them? Turnovers.

And guess what? They fu**ing lost! So now ND has the upperhand on them this year. Period. End of story. I'll tell any Michigan fan that to their faces, and they'll agree if they have any sense.Denard had the upperhand for 2 straight years, and ND's defense (and team) has the upperhand on Michigan now. Unbelievable that you can't get that you still can't get that concept.

As I said, and please take off your maize and blue glasses so you can comprehend this...when you put Denard up against a team worth their salt like MSU in 2011 does he break records? No. Does he win? No.

LOL...I'm just as big a fan if not bigger than you are, but nice try.

The difference is, I understand and get sports, and you, well, you just don't based on your 2 main arguments in this thread. Call me an a**hole, but that's the simple truth. (And you called me a Michigan fan so I don't feel bad in the least.)

And guess what? Before this year, Denard beat us twice while breaking records. Last year, I didn't see you on here bagging on this team saying we weren't were sh!t. But now that it fits your argument, NOW you are saying that we sucked??? Weak. (Oh, and Denard STILL had the upperhand on us, whether we sucked or not, but nice try.)

He goes up against AF and barely squeaks by.

Ummmmm, he actually KILLED AF almost single-handedly. The TEAM squeaked by, but DR was off the chains that game. How could you blame him for that? You keep vascilating between team and individual, whatever fits your argument. That's not how it works.

He's a great playmaker. He is fast. He's a perfect running back, but he is a terrible QB.

So you admit he doesn't suck. Finally. We've argued all along that he was a sucky passer. Finally you are coming around.

 

[IrishLax]

Denard does suck as a QB. Denard is absolutely elite as an athlete. So elite in fact that he will get drafted probably in the top 3-4 rounds to play a position he has never played before like CB or slot WR. But as a QB? I can't think of any true contender out there that would trade their QB for him.

He's an awful QB because YOU CAN'T JUST WING IT AND RELY ON ATHLETICISM AGAINST GOOD TEAMS. Name me one true top 20 team Denard has had a good performance against in his 4 years at Michigan. Maybe there is one I'm not thinking of, but against good teams with good defenses he has never, ever shown the ability to play at an above average level much less an elite level.

He doesn't grasp the mental side of the position, he can't throw the ball accurately, and unless the defense is middling to below average he can't even dominate with his feet like you expect him to. This obfuscated by how f*cking easy Michigan's schedule typically is. Over the past two years he has only played against 4 teams that were "top 20" and had an average or better defense... MSU, VT, Alabama, ND... he was horrendous in every single one of those games.

Why has Denard had our number previously? Because we've been very average. I'm still not sold that this defense is truly "elite" but they are at minimum very good. Extremely solid up front + somehow even without Slaughter, Wood, and Collinsworth (3 of our top 5 projected players in the secondary) we're getting very good play on the back end so far. For every blown assignment or missed tackle it seems they make an equally big play.

 

[Wolverine1997]

EXACYLY!

Unlike Charlie, Brady Hoke actually beat the arch rival and won a BCS game. In his first year. Just saying.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

...Denard is unique talent but is a below average passer but quite possibly one of the best rushing QBs to play the college game...

I don't know about that...Obviously it's subjective, but I still might take Tebow, Newton, maybe VY, Eric Crouch and Tommie Frazier over Denard. Just of the top of my head.

Heck, he may not even be the best rushing QB in the Big Ten this year if Tayor Martinez stays hot.

 

[TheSunIsRising]

Yeaaa but she did the Weiss two S thing......



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Also said:

he didn't perform ("no deal") against Wisconsin (assuming she meant 2010, but was talking about 2011)
360 yds of total offense; 167 passer rating; 4 total TD's (but 1 INT)

and "scraped by" against AF
426 yds of total offense; 144 passer rating; 4 total TD's (and another 1 INT)


He is certainly a turnover machine, but those were bad games to include in her argument. In both cases it was the scUM D that were bad, not Denard Robinson.


Oh, and BTW he torched a good (19th ranked Total D nationally) OSU defense last year
337 yds total offense; 224 passer rating; 5 total TD's (and miraculously no picks)

 

[Cogs]

I feel very bad for Denard. Great kid, great athlete, but under so much ridicule for having a bad game. I expect him to bounce back and light it up for the rest of the season. Remember, the B1G is pretty weak this year if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

Forget total offense when evaluating him -- he's both their QB and RB. The total yards figure will always be skewed in his favor because of his ridiculous amount of touches.

Yards/carry and Yards/attempt, etc. are what matter.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Can we change this thread title to "Denard RobINTson?"

 

[TheSunIsRising]

Forget total offense when evaluating him -- he's both their QB and RB. The total yards figure will always be skewed in his favor because of his ridiculous amount of touches.

Yards/carry and Yards/attempt, etc. are what matter.

Umm, sure total yards matter. As mentioned earlier, every defensive coach game planning against him know he is going to be 90+% of their offense, and he still puts up big yardage running and passing (albeit on good to worse defenses). Elite defenses can shut him down by making him do the latter instead of the former, but a QB who can run for 1,500 yds and pass for 2,000 yds in a BCS conference team's season is a challenge to defend (even for a good defense). Same reason that RGIII and Cam Newton were dangerous the last two years, and Tebow throughout his career.

He is not an elite throwing QB (no one is debating that he is), but as a player he does not 'suck'. Even as a RB playing QB he doesn't 'suck' either - he just isn't nearly good enough of a thrower to keep elite defenses honest. He isn't good enough, or solidly built enough, to carry a team through a 12 game regular schedule, a conference championship game, and NC championship. Along that route he will meet a defense that can expose his bad judgement and erratic throwing, but that is hardly 'sucking'

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

1. Do you realize the hypocrisy of your that statement? You are basing your argument on what michigan fans are saying on the internet, and in the next breath bashing them for being stupid, and in the next step bashing some of our fans on this site. Sooooooo.....everyone is an idiot unless they agree with you and the great 'oracle' (LOL).

2. And speaking of oracle, that's some funny sh!t. So a poster who says Denard sucks (wrong) and says Denard didn't have the upperhand on us before that game (hysterically and embarrassingly wrong) is an oracle????? Wow. You're easy to please. I'll leave it at that.



LOL...did you watch the games? I mean, you claim to, and you claim to know your stuff. So if that's true, then who do you think brought them back (almost single-handedly)??? Yup, the guy you claim sucks. The guy you claim didn't have the upperhand on ND beat us twice, closed the games a la Joe Montana, and broke records while doing it. He is the epitome of having the upperhand on someone (before this last game), and you're so blinded by your hatred of Michigan (or your lack of knowledge of how sports work - you choose) that you can't see it. That's on you. The fact that you continue to argue that point is quite frankly embarrassing to your knowledge as a sports fan. He had the ultimate 'scoreboard b!tches!' over us on and you still can't see it.


And guess what? They fu**ing lost! So now ND has the upperhand on them this year. Period. End of story. I'll tell any Michigan fan that to their faces, and they'll agree if they have any sense.Denard had the upperhand for 2 straight years, and ND's defense (and team) has the upperhand on Michigan now. Unbelievable that you can't get that you still can't get that concept.



LOL...I'm just as big a fan if not bigger than you are, but nice try.

The difference is, I understand and get sports, and you, well, you just don't based on your 2 main arguments in this thread. Call me an a**hole, but that's the simple truth. (And you called me a Michigan fan so I don't feel bad in the least.)

And guess what? Before this year, Denard beat us twice while breaking records. Last year, I didn't see you on here bagging on this team saying we weren't were sh!t. But now that it fits your argument, NOW you are saying that we sucked??? Weak. (Oh, and Denard STILL had the upperhand on us, whether we sucked or not, but nice try.)

He goes up against AF and barely squeaks by.

Ummmmm, he actually KILLED AF almost single-handedly. The TEAM squeaked by, but DR was off the chains that game. How could you blame him for that? You keep vascilating between team and individual, whatever fits your argument. That's not how it works.



So you admit he doesn't suck. Finally. We've argued all along that he was a sucky passer. Finally you are coming around.

I did not call you a Michigan fan, I said you were wearing Maize and Blue glasses, it's funny...the way you worship Robinson and defend him tooth and nail, yet I can't help but feel if this were ND's qb, you'd be blazing the trail to have Kelly's head on a platter. I don't buy into the hype that he is the best thing since pockets on t-shirts, and that doesn't make me stupid. Funny how we all had the same opinion about the Michigan game in 2011 until I said I think Denard sucks and now all of a sudden Michigan was putting a whooping on us? I like to drink but I wasn't that wasted to where I can't remember how that game went down. But whatever. I just think you like to type to read what you write. It doesn't matter how much you try to tear me down or call me out on what kind of fan I am, or be as condescending as you are, my opinion remains the same, and I don't give a damn if he's Michigan's qb or LSU's qb, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...then...

 

[phork]

Unlike Charlie, Brady Hoke actually beat the arch rival and won a BCS game. In his first year. Just saying.

I like Hoke. He is no Weis. Hoke gets it. Hoke has been in college for a long time. Hoke has Mattison.

But please do not pull the "He beat Ohio and beat a great VT team in the BCS" bullcrap. Ohio was a shell of their former selves and still almost beat you. VT kicked your *** in the bowl game but that horse shoe up your *** last year is now gone.

 

[NDinL.A.]

I did not call you a Michigan fan, I said you were wearing Maize and Blue glasses, it's funny...the way you worship Robinson and defend him tooth and nail, yet I can't help but feel if this were ND's qb, you'd be blazing the trail to have Kelly's head on a platter. I don't buy into the hype that he is the best thing since pockets on t-shirts, and that doesn't make me stupid. Funny how we all had the same opinion about the Michigan game in 2011 until I said I think Denard sucks and now all of a sudden Michigan was putting a whooping on us? I like to drink but I wasn't that wasted to where I can't remember how that game went down. But whatever. I just think you like to type to read what you write. It doesn't matter how much you try to tear me down or call me out on what kind of fan I am, or be as condescending as you are, my opinion remains the same, and I don't give a damn if he's Michigan's qb or LSU's qb, if it skips like a child and throws like a toddler...I'm calling it for what it is.

Ha ha...nice response. Sure, I worship Denard (even though I clearly said the dude can't pass for sh!t SEVERAL TIMES - but hey, why bother reading carefully what anybody writes right? Just assume what you want and say what you want even if it isn't true - what a great way to go through message board life!).

BTW, since you clearly haven't comprehended ONE WORD I've written. let me ask you one last time - where did I say that Denard is the greatest??? Where did I say that he is the best QB alive? Please please PLEASE point that out to me. (Don't worry, I know you won't even bother to look, you'll just keep saying I said it. Here's a hint for you though - I never said that. But again, I love the effort!)

And seriously, where the f*ck do you get your opinion of me from??? I have clearly been a HUGE BK fan even before we hired him (I stated it then that I wanted him over Stoops). It's like you just make sh!t up in your mind and try to throw it against a wall and hope it sticks. Epic fail.

Sooooooo, continue with your opinion, and please for the love of God, go to a sports bar and tell them that for the 1st two years, Denard didn't have the upperhand on ND even though he beat us both times AND he lead incredible comebacks on us AND he put up record-breaking numbers against us. PLEASE go and tell impartial fans that and report back to us what they say.

And you can tell me that Denard sucks until you're blue in the face, and it still won't be true. Sucks as a passer? Absolutely (for the 1000th time). But as a football player? Nope, not even close. He's an insane talent.

I'm done...have the last word.