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do you think they will try to run the fake fg for the 3rd year in a row..last year we blew it up but will they think ND won't think they will for a 3rd time????

To this day, the media still talks about that play. It's fresh in everybody's minds which is just sickening.
 

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To this day, the media still talks about that play. It's fresh in everybody's minds which is just sickening.

but what they don't say is that the play clock had already expired before it was snapped!!!! and i have the pic of it to prove it!!!

im at work so it disables the pics...but did it work???
 
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but what they don't say is that the play clock had already expired before it was snapped!!!! and i have the pic of it to prove it!!!

im at work so it disables the pics...but did it work???

well, i'm glad the football gods returned the favor to us in tommy's 2 minute drill!
 

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well, i'm glad the football gods returned the favor to us in tommy's 2 minute drill!

Hardly returned, they had the same thing happen on the punt that Goody fumbled last year against us. By my count, the football gods still owe us one.
 

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Hardly returned, they had the same thing happen on the punt that Goody fumbled last year against us. By my count, the football gods still owe us one.

They also owe us for all of our turnovers last year!
 

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They are blasting the ever living hell out of the music at practice this week. I can hear it from my place. Probably doing it just so they can get more used to noise, and communicating despite it.
 

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They are blasting the ever living hell out of the music at practice this week. I can hear it from my place. Probably doing it just so they can get more used to noise, and communicating despite it.

any Springsteen? that's what Chuck used to play I think.
 

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LOL - Todd McShay just analyzed Notre Dame vs Michigan State. He believes our young quarterback isn't ready to carry this game because State will shut down our running game.

GolsTon isn't ready. He doesn't know his name but he knows he's not ready.

ESPN is so deep....... SMH
 
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LOL - Todd McShay just analyzed Notre Dame vs Michigan State. He believes our young quarterback isn't ready to carry this game because State will shut down our running game.

GolsTon isn't ready. He doesn't know his name but he knows he's not ready.

ESPN is so deep....... SMH

It's pretty fair to come to that if you have to make a prediction.. I mean, Golson is in his 3rd start and he did get pulled for Rees in the final 2 minutes. And don't tell me Golson was too hurt to go in, when BK was interviewed on ESPN about it he talked about how Rees is comfortable with the 2 minutes and Golson's getting there, and that's why he pulled him. Never mentioned the phantom injury. Just my opinion, but McShay's assessment seems fair. Still think ND pulls this out, though.
 

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It's pretty fair to come to that if you have to make a prediction.. I mean, Golson is in his 3rd start and he did get pulled for Rees in the final 2 minutes. And don't tell me Golson was too hurt to go in, when BK was interviewed on ESPN about it he talked about how Rees is comfortable with the 2 minutes and Golson's getting there, and that's why he pulled him. Never mentioned the phantom injury. Just my opinion, but McShay's assessment seems fair. Still think ND pulls this out, though.

I'm sure the wrap on his phantom injury in class this week was a fake too. Kelly said that Golson was nicked up and his confidence in Rees to run the two minute drill made it an easier decision.
 

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LOL - Todd McShay just analyzed Notre Dame vs Michigan State. He believes our young quarterback isn't ready to carry this game because State will shut down our running game.

GolsTon isn't ready. He doesn't know his name but he knows he's not ready.

ESPN is so deep....... SMH

He's probably right.
 
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I'm sure the wrap on his phantom injury in class this week was a fake too. Kelly said that Golson was nicked up and his confidence in Rees to run the two minute drill made it an easier decision.

IDK what interview you saw him on, but I know for fact he didn't say anything about Golson's injury keeping him out of the final drive at all when I saw him on ESPN. Instead, he pointed to his trust in Rees and that Golson's going to get there but isn't yet.

If Golson's injury is why Rees came in, then why wouldn't Kelly say that on national TV, and instead, open himself to criticism about his swapping of the QBs?? I'm not starting anything, fyi, I'm just asking. Seems obvious to me.

FYI, Golson 'injured' his hand on the TD run (at the pylon) well before his fumble, so why not take him out for Rees after the TD?
 

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He said as much in the interview right after the game. And I don't think Kelly really cares about whether the media wants to try to create a controversy or not. Golson was one of the first to congratulate Tommy on the sidelines after the drive. I'm not starting anything either, but Golson obviously was hurt or he wouldn't have faked a wrap on his hand all week.

The Irish could be 11-0 going into the USC game and ESPN would still be trying to create a controversy with ND.
 
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He said as much in the interview right after the game. And I don't think Kelly really cares about whether the media wants to try to create a controversy or not. Golson was one of the first to congratulate Tommy on the sidelines after the drive. I'm not starting anything either, but Golson obviously was hurt or he wouldn't have faked a wrap on his hand all week.

Ok, but my point is, if Golson injured his hand on the pylon drive, why was he fine to play up until the final, do-or-die drive? Why not take him out for Rees right away after the pylon dive? And BK knew that ESPN would say stuff about him swapping/not trusting QBs, so IF the injury to Golson's hand was legitimately why Golson got pulled, why wouldn't he say that? Why would he say it's because we're comfortable with Rees and Golson's getting there? Honestly, I'm taking off my Irish glasses and it seems obvious to me. He trusted Rees more, and it might have been the right move.
 

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It's pretty fair to come to that if you have to make a prediction.. I mean, Golson is in his 3rd start and he did get pulled for Rees in the final 2 minutes. And don't tell me Golson was too hurt to go in, when BK was interviewed on ESPN about it he talked about how Rees is comfortable with the 2 minutes and Golson's getting there, and that's why he pulled him. Never mentioned the phantom injury. Just my opinion, but McShay's assessment seems fair. Still think ND pulls this out, though.

It's an analysis any one of us know and McShay could read here or many other sites. The point was he doesn't even know his name. He's a professional, he could at least spend 30 seconds and get his facts.

We will win this game.
 

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Ok, but my point is, if Golson injured his hand on the pylon drive, why was he fine to play up until the final, do-or-die drive? Why not take him out for Rees right away after the pylon dive? And BK knew that ESPN would say stuff about him swapping/not trusting QBs, so IF the injury to Golson's hand was legitimately why Golson got pulled, why wouldn't he say that? Why would he say it's because we're comfortable with Rees and Golson's getting there? Honestly, I'm taking off my Irish glasses and it seems obvious to me. He trusted Rees more, and it might have been the right move.

From what I recall, it was reported that the injury occurred on the fumble. Which would make perfect sense as to why the next drive Rees was in.

When you win, isn't it always the right move?
 

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I will be interested in seeing if Rees gets PT if Golson doeesnt come out and perform well early or if Kelly will be patient with him.

I justed watched a replay of last years game and Cierra Wood looked very good. I cant wait to see him run on Saturday.
 
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From what I recall, it was reported that the injury occurred on the fumble. Which would make perfect sense as to why the next drive Rees was in.



When you win, isn't it always the right move?
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Ok, but my point is, if Golson injured his hand on the pylon drive, why was he fine to play up until the final, do-or-die drive? Why not take him out for Rees right away after the pylon dive? And BK knew that ESPN would say stuff about him swapping/not trusting QBs, so IF the injury to Golson's hand was legitimately why Golson got pulled, why wouldn't he say that? Why would he say it's because we're comfortable with Rees and Golson's getting there? Honestly, I'm taking off my Irish glasses and it seems obvious to me. He trusted Rees more, and it might have been the right move.
Maybe -- just maybe -- it is a combination of both? Golson's hand was not 100%, he had just fumbled, we had no timeouts left, and Rees is vastly more experienced (especially in the two-minute drill).

Why does it have to be such a definite answer? Kelly went with this gut and put Rees in the game. We won the game. Golson is the starter. End of discussion.
 

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Maybe -- just maybe -- it is a combination of both? Golson's hand was not 100%, he had just fumbled, we had no timeouts left, and Rees is vastly more experienced (especially in the two-minute drill).

Why does it have to be such a definite answer? Kelly went with this gut and put Rees in the game. We won the game. Golson is the starter. End of discussion.

because it's only weds and we're bored?
 
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Maybe -- just maybe -- it is a combination of both? Golson's hand was not 100%, he had just fumbled, we had no timeouts left, and Rees is vastly more experienced (especially in the two-minute drill).

Why does it have to be such a definite answer? Kelly went with this gut and put Rees in the game. We won the game. Golson is the starter. End of discussion.

Sure, but the injury (according to TP) happened earlier in the game during Golson's TD run. Why wait to pull him until the last drive?

This is getting tangential, but given that BK made it seem on ESPN that the reason Rees was in there was because he trusts him (not because of the 'injury), at least gives some substance to McShay's point that Golson isn't ready to beat MSU, in East Lansing, at night just yet. I see his point. What can I say, I like McShay so I'm defending him, lol.
 
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LOL - Todd McShay just analyzed Notre Dame vs Michigan State. He believes our young quarterback isn't ready to carry this game because State will shut down our running game.

GolsTon isn't ready. He doesn't know his name but he knows he's not ready.

ESPN is so deep....... SMH

lol McShay also thought Michigan had a "quality win" over Air Force while failing to mention anyting about how there defense got gashed and without Denard they probably lose that game. During the ND vs. Purdue highlights he acted like we were handed the game and didn't deserve the win. McShay should just stick to getting his draft analysis wrong.
 

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LOL - Todd McShay just analyzed Notre Dame vs Michigan State. He believes our young quarterback isn't ready to carry this game because State will shut down our running game.

GolsTon isn't ready. He doesn't know his name but he knows he's not ready.

ESPN is so deep....... SMH

They also think Maxwell gives MSU an "added boost" to their offense....yeah...okay
 
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Do you not know how to read? It has been explained ad nauseam in multiple threads.

Of course I no how to reed. I is a kollege student.

I check out the latest news on almost every thread, but I usually don't have time to beam through every page, I usually just look at the latest talk and can piece the puzzle from there. If it's been explained why BK left Golson in (while injured) for a few drives, then decided to pull him for the final drive (because of injury?), then I apologize and IDK what conclusion you guys reached for leaving an injured Golson in up to the final drive. Anyways, again, not starting anything. Just defending McShay's opinion of being skeptical about Golson pulling out a W at MSU this week. And again, I LOVE golson, LOVE Kelly, and cautiously expect to win this game.
 
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Negative Nancy here-its reality time. My only hope is that Purdue is or was better than expected because if they are not State is going to lay one on my Irish. I've said all along this was a 7-5 team and if I'm right I'm 'sad' and if I'm wrong I'm one happy man. By the way is this not the type of game Brian Kelly was hired to coach-its going to make a huge statement on his time and progress at Notre Dame. I think this game is more about Brian Kelly than many people are stating-he needs a win because next week your staring 2-2 right in the face.
 
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