If you had any respect for USC

[IrishLax]

Go ahead and throw it out the window:

USC linebacker Simione Vehikite returned to practice Wednesday after getting released from jail earlier this week. Vehitike served more than three months for leaving the scene of a car accident and driving with an .08% blood-alcohol level and causing injury.
He was actually sentenced to a year back in May for the two felony counts.
USC coach Lane Kiffin did not announce Vehitike's return but it might explain why walk-on linebacker Will Andrew is no longer on scholarship.

That's right, not only do they somehow keep a kid convicted on two felony counts and doing months of jail time enrolled in the school.... but they welcome him back open arms to the football team.... and then cut the scholarship of a current player to make room. Un-freaking-real.

Discuss.

 

[FLDomer]

Oh boy, dont read GB

 

[Irish Fam]

Luckily I never had any respect for them and therefore have lost no respect through reading this. The only thing that happened through reading this is confirmation that Kiffin is moral-less piece of ****.

 

[Rhode Irish]

At least USC embraces the fact that they have no integrity or standards. Hell, they even employ Lane Kiffin just to make sure they aren't sending mixed signals. I don't respect them much, but I respect them a lot more than Michigan.

 

[woolybug25]

But somehow... ESPN will spend all day talking about how great they are and how terrible we are.

What is Pat Haden thinking allowing this? Why does the media choose to ignore stuff like this. I wish the media would start talking about all of the terrible stuff that is going on in college football right now.

 

[IrishLax]

Everyone who has a twitter, facebook, etc. should spread this around and tweet it at every sports analyst you know, IMO. You should not be allowed to get a "free pass" on letting a felon straight out of jail back onto the practice field AND CUTTING A SCHOLARSHIP FROM A CURRENT STUDENT ATHLETE TO MAKE ROOM.

Remember, this kid was sentenced to a YEAR IN JAIL... did 3 months... and isn't even serving a single game of suspension for his DUI + injury + leaving the scene of an accident he did in May.

 

[RDU Irish]

Good point Rhode. Pat Haden can suck it. Mrs. Doubtfire too while we are at it.

 

[Btown7]

USC...a team with "criminals"?? lol..to soon? Media wont report this bc USC is #1 ESPN has a hard spot for the SEC as well as USC. never reports the bad, only make them out to be unbeatable.

 

[IrishLax]

Here's a link for everyone to tweet around: Vehitike Returns - Inside USC with Scott Wolf

 

[Me2SouthBend]

No respect to throw out the window. Condoms Suck.

 

[Irish YJ]

Not surprised at either (USC's choice, or the media's choice to ignore). Just more Lame Kitten. The only thing that surprises me is Pat's approval.

 

[GreatGolson]

I feel like the ncaa should not allow scholarships to CONVICTED FELONS

 

[Irishnuke]

Sickening. What a piece of shiit Kiffin is.

 

[ALLGATOR]

Interesting I am sure Lane will address this sometime in the near future. I think the walk on not having his scholarship renewed is a non issue really. Every year walkons get scholarships if a school has some they did not use. The next year if the roster is full they go back to paying how they did before.

Actually I would like to see what Pat has to say about the issue more than Lane

 

[Buster Bluth]

I got pretty upset reading this. But then I saw Kate Upton's breasts when I scrolled down. Now I'm not so upset..

 

[woolybug25]

Interesting I am sure Lane will address this sometime in the near future. I think the walk on not having his scholarship renewed is a non issue really. Every year walkons get scholarships if a school has some they did not use. The next year if the roster is full they go back to paying how they did before.

Actually I would like to see what Pat has to say about the issue more than Lane

Of course an SEC fan wouldn't see anything wrong with cutting a scholarship player...

 

[irishff1014]

The NCAA should not allow this let alone the school. This is complete bullsh*t. But should expect nothing less from that school.

 

[ALLGATOR]

Of course an SEC fan wouldn't see anything wrong with cutting a scholarship player...

Well I look at it this way that was one year the kid did not have to pay for college. Because if you told most coaches if they give a scholarship that's left over one year to a walk on he gets to keep it for the rest of the time he is at the university. The coach would decide not to give the walk on the scholarship.

Walk-ons are told when they are given a scholarship that there is a good chance they will fill out the roster the next year.

 

[woolybug25]

Well I look at it this way that was one year the kid did not have to pay for college. Because if you told most coaches if they give a scholarship that's left over one year to a walk on he gets to keep it for the rest of the time he is at the university. The coach would decide not to give the walk on the scholarship.

Walk-ons are told when they are given a scholarship that there is a good chance they will fill out the roster the next year.

That isn't true and you know it. They don't tell walk-ons that they can get cut at any time, and they certainly don't discuss that with scholarship players. They use oversigning and cutting players as a tool to build depth. These kids work to get scholarships only to get them ripped from them immedietely.

Notre Dame never pulls scholarships from former walk-ons. It never happens.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Well I look at it this way that was one year the kid did not have to pay for college. Because if you told most coaches if they give a scholarship that's left over one year to a walk on he gets to keep it for the rest of the time he is at the university. The coach would decide not to give the walk on the scholarship.

Walk-ons are told when they are given a scholarship that there is a good chance they will fill out the roster the next year.

ND gives 4-year scholarships.

I see your point, but ND isn't a football factory, so that's why this won't go over well among the ND crowd.

 

[ALLGATOR]

That isn't true and you know it. They don't tell walk-ons that they can get cut at any time, and they certainly don't discuss that with scholarship players. They use oversigning and cutting players as a tool to build depth. These kids work to get scholarships only to get them ripped from them immedietely.

Notre Dame never pulls scholarships from former walk-ons. It never happens.

Lets stick with the walk-ons, typically schools do tell walk-ons that they are giving them a one year scholarship because they have some left over. This year Georgia is more than 10 players under the scholarship limit. I would much rather Georgia give 10 walk-ons scholarships for one year than have Georgia say we are going to do nothing with them because if we give them out we have to let the walk-ons continue to have them until they graduate.

 

[Irish52]

But somehow... ESPN will spend all day talking about how great they are and how terrible we are.

What is Pat Haden thinking allowing this? Why does the media choose to ignore stuff like this. I wish the media would start talking about all of the terrible stuff that is going on in college football right now.

Just confirms what most people, including the USC fans, suspect; that is, Haden works for Kiffen and not vice-versa. And we all thought Haden was above aboard .. How can he condone this bullshit?

 

[caligold]

Not being an alumni of ND but just a rabid fan I am not familiar with Res. Life and its policies, but given what I have read, I assume Mike Floyd would have been punted from the University under similar circumstances? Wasn't Will Yeatman was booted for for Floyd type infractions? If I recall correctly though the defining difference between Mike and Will was that all of Will's infractions happen to occur on ND's campus?

Not trying to stir things up but rather get clarity about a campus body I wish I could have been subject to during my undergraduate studies.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

This is a terrible discussion for an SEC fan to be involved in...

 

[PANDFAN]

But somehow... ESPN will spend all day talking about how great they are and how terrible we are.

What is Pat Haden thinking allowing this? Why does the media choose to ignore stuff like this. I wish the media would start talking about all of the terrible stuff that is going on in college football right now.

my exact thoughts!!! espn radio so far this morning has done nothing but talk about allen pinketts remarks and nooooo mention of this...but collin cowherd and the rest of media are trying to spin that lame kiffin has changed....nope still up to his old tricks!

 

[IrishLax]

Lets stick with the walk-ons, typically schools do tell walk-ons that they are giving them a one year scholarship because they have some left over. This year Georgia is more than 10 players under the scholarship limit. I would much rather Georgia give 10 walk-ons scholarships for one year than have Georgia say we are going to do nothing with them because if we give them out we have to let the walk-ons continue to have them until they graduate.

You're not wrong here. This happens at an awful lot of schools. And it makes sense with the logic being that the kid can already pay for school by virtue of being a walk-on.

The difference in this scenario, IMO, is that you stripped a kid of a promised scholarship a couple weeks before the season to give it to a guy that happened to be getting an early (paroled?) release from jail only serving 3 months of his sentenced 12.

That's kinda effed up on a lot of different levels. First and foremost that a reputable academic institution would even allow a two-time convicted felon admittance to the school... and that he would get zero suspension. Even Meyer at Florida had the stones to suspend Dunlap (I think?) for a meaningful game for a DUI mid-season... this guy hit a pedestrian, left the scene of an accident, and was driving drunk. No penalty whatsoever and takes a promised scholarship from a "lesser player" doing everything right. That's wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

 

[IndyIrishFan1]

From USC's Wednesday practice report

For some reason, former USC LB Simione Vehikite appeared at USC’s practice today, wearing a No 39 jersey. Vehikite recently got out of jail after serving time for a felony DUI and Identity Theft-related incident. Kiffin at one point said that he would take Vehikite back, but no word on the situation now.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

my exact thoughts!!! espn radio so far this morning has done nothing but talk about allen pinketts remarks and nooooo mention of this...but collin cowherd and the rest of media are trying to spin that lame kiffin has changed....nope still up to his old tricks!

this blurb about usc and the way ESPN in handling notre dame today lends weight directly to the pat forde article today.

Notre Dame won't compromise values for wins - Yahoo! Sports

it has its own thread but ties in nice to this discussion too.

 

[IrishLax]

Not being an alumni of ND but just a rabid fan I am not familiar with Res. Life and its policies, but given what I have read, I assume Mike Floyd would have been punted from the University under similar circumstances? Wasn't Will Yeatman was booted for for Floyd type infractions? If I recall correctly though the defining difference between Mike and Will was that all of Will's infractions happen to occur on ND's campus?

Not trying to stir things up but rather get clarity about a campus body I wish I could have been subject to during my undergraduate studies.

Not quite, Will got the same suspension as Floyd (1 semester, no activities)... Will "got booted" after he blew a .01 after an off-campus party got raided... terms of his parole said no drinking.

And even then Will didn't technically get booted, he got suspended for another full season and said eff it and transferred to Maryland.

 

[IndyIrishFan1]

More gems!

Vehikite's return took on added significance because walk-on Will Andrew didn't have his scholarship renewed this week. Kiffin said he doesn't go out of his way to inform walk-ons when their scholarship is not renewed.

"They're never granted longer (than a year)," Kiffin said. "He was fortunate to have one for a year."



Sounds like a great guy.