ND steals Rick Reilly's girlfriend, he's mad

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He said ND would go 6-5 this season ignoring the 12th game on the schedule, specifically because 6-5 looks worse than 7-5 in print and ultimately better in the context of his article. I would say that's misrepresenting facts. Hack journalism and bending fact to fit your premise at it's finest.

Tiny nit compared to the overall message. I would say your example is just plain laziness or lack of a good editor. He's a clown, he's an opinion writer, we haven't performed up to OUR standard in 20 years, but we still swing a huge stick.... how can we not expect to be a target. Haters gonna hate

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I just sent him an email, doubt he reads it or replies.

You probably just made his day. I bet he will be looking through his emails to see how much hate mail he got and will be boasting to all of his friends how many Irish Fans he ticked off.
 

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Not clicking the link because Rick Reilly is in my top 5 least respected sports writers... and that's saying something. Having worked with a lot of sports writers and broadcasters (including a number of people from ESPN) over the past couple years during my freelance sportswriting "hobby" it is quite frustrating to see how many no talent hacks make it through sheer dumb luck. There are guys in the business who are quite insightful or eloquent or downright hardworking who don't get a break while Rick Reilly gets paid $2 mil a year to write worthless articles with no original thought... or Jemele Hill is given a platform to turn any situation into a race issue.

So f*ck Reilly regardless of what his article says.
 

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So no one else has to click on the article...

So no one else has to click on the article...

From the mind of Richard Reilly:

I once loved Notre Dame football.

My dad went to Notre Dame and flunked out and I still loved Notre Dame football. I loved Lindsey Nelson telling me "neither team advanced the ball so we move to further action in the fourth quarter" while my mom was yelling, "Get ready for mass!"



But I grew up.

I don't love Notre Dame football anymore. Notre Dame football has been living a lie, as Lou Holtz likes to say. Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, nothing happened. The echoes are in REM sleep. It has failed to advance the ball.

If I told you about a team that had lost 10 of its last 12 bowl games, had dropped nine of its last 10 to USC, had led the nation only in disappointment, you'd figure that team would be halfway down the Mountain West standings. But Notre Dame still gets perks and love from the NCAA and BCS as though the year is 1946.

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Brian Kelly confers with one of his QB candidates, Everett Golson.I'm declaring an end to all that.

In Europe, if you play too much bad soccer for too many years, you get "relegated" to a lower division, moved down, demoted. It just happened to the Blackburn Rovers.

It needs to happen to Notre Dame football.

If Notre Dame isn't a factor this season -- and it hasn't been a factor in almost 20 years -- it's time to take it down a literal peg.

We can't demote Notre Dame from its conference -- since it is far too noble to belong to any piddling conference -- but we can demote it in stature.

From now on:
• Notre Dame no longer gets its own television deal with NBC.
• Notre Dame no longer gets to be the only school in the country with an inexplicable seat at the BCS decisions-making table.
• Notre Dame no longer gets its yearly undeserved hellahype in preseason rankings and preseason All-America teams.



In short, until Notre Dame football starts winning again, it's Rice to me.

That hurts your feelings? Watch "Rudy" 'til you feel better.

Can you explain to me how a team that hasn't won a national championship since 1988, a Heisman since 1987, or more than eight games its last five seasons still gets treated like the 1967 Green Bay Packers?

Notre Dame has won 86 games since the turn of this century. Oregon has won 111 games since then. TCU has won 119. Boise State has won 136. Do they have their own TV deals? Do they get to be the only school that sits with the BCS conference commissioners, deciding how a playoff is going to work?

Somebody needs to stick a pin in the still-inflated Golden Dome. Look, the ACC wants Notre Dame. Would die to have it. But word is, Notre Dame won't go if it has to share TV and gate revenue with the rest of the conference, like everybody else. The Irish people love to share. The Irish athletic department? Not so much.

If college football won't put its foot down and force Notre Dame to join a conference -- as every other sport at Notre Dame has -- then the least it can do is stop paying it a bowl bonus of $1.3 million when it DOESN'T go to a bowl game. That's right: Notre Dame gets a $1.3 million bowl bonus simply for dressing up the stupid leprechaun.

I hear what the Domers are saying. They're saying, "Notre Dame doesn't have to be in a conference. Notre Dame is unlike any other football power. Notre Dame is a national brand."

Sure, and girls are still wearing leg warmers.

Notre Dame is not a national brand any more than USC, Alabama or Stanford. A national brand? What would its slogan be, "Dominating Navy just about every year"? What kind of national brand loses to freaking Tulsa (2010)?

Please, NCAA and BCS, stop leaping to attention every time caller ID says it's Notre Dame. The Irish haven't finished in the top 20 in any poll in five years. They can leave a message.

When did I quit on Notre Dame? When it quit on itself.

Last season, against USC, the Irish were trailing by only two touchdowns, 31-17, with about seven minutes left when USC got the ball. But Notre Dame didn't use any of its timeouts, and it had a hatful of them. It let USC waste as much time as it wanted and never got the ball back. Good job. Good effort.



"They did give up," USC quarterback Matt Barkley told ESPN 710 radio in L.A. "I wouldn't have wanted to be on that sideline."

You are not royalty anymore, Notre Dame. Turn in your tiara.

When your NBC contract expires in 2015, do the right thing and don't renew. Lower some expectations until you can turn this thing around. And you're a Mars Rover trip from turning it around.

Wait, what? Coach Brian Kelly is the savior? Really? Because he looks to me like he's doing a very good impression of Bob Davie so far. He's opened with back-to-back 8-5 seasons. Wow. Give him a sitting ovation.



And with Kelly throwing the QB job up for grabs again, instead of just handing it to Tommy Rees once his one-game suspension is up, this season looks like 6-5 to me, with Ls to Michigan State, Michigan, Oklahoma, Pittsburgh and you don't even want to know what USC will do to the Irish in the Coliseum. Cue the DentDoctor.com Bowl.

Somebody needs to make Notre Dame play by the same rules as everybody else. If there's anything we've learned from the Penn State mess, it's that nobody gets to live on a pedestal anymore.



You flunked, Notre Dame. Go back a grade.
 

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The only proper response to Rick Reilly, Colin Cowherd, etc. is apathy. Anything else, and the shock jocks trolling for page views win.
 

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He's right about the USC game...Pathetic. Made me shake my head.

I'll never forgive Kelly for that.


I hate hearing this stuff...but it is what it is. I do disagree about the conference thing. ND doesn't need one.

Yeah, the only reason anyone EVER says ND needs to join a conference, is because they want ND in their conference, fortunately it needs to go both ways, and conferences need us more than we need them right now.
 

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The guy sucks....There is some truth in that article, but 0 originality. Like someone said above, I have heard a million ND haters say the same stuff....Oh, and the guy sucks.
 

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That article epitomizes what I dislike about Reilly. His overarching goal seems to be to try to write opinion articles that generate enough hits to justify his salary... but he always comes up short. Some things he says in that article are downright laughably inaccurate and ill touch on that more when im not typing on my phone at work.
 

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Tiny nit compared to the overall message. I would say your example is just plain laziness or lack of a good editor. He's a clown, he's an opinion writer, we haven't performed up to OUR standard in 20 years, but we still swing a huge stick.... how can we not expect to be a target. Haters gonna hate

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If the 'overall message' had been that ND hasn't performed like several of the dominant teams over the past 20 years I would agree. But, given the 'overall message' was clearly defined by him as ND is irrelevant so they shouldn't get stuff, there are easily 5-6 major flaws (or conveniently omitted facts) related to his arguments
 

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Ok...I'm in the big minority here...But I like Reilly and Cowheard. They're hilarious and, most of the time, are spot on with their assessments. Yeah, they can be downright rude about it...but if you pick yourself away from the emotional side of it (We're all ND fans) then he's actually telling you what most people think about the program. I hear it from buddies everyday. Do I agree with everything on here? Nope. But he does expose the truth on a few things (like giving up on the USC game).

Now, I don't know what prompted him to write this article, as some have stated...we've heard this before...but it is what it is.

Best thing we can do? Is win. And dominate. And shut the haters up. Reilly is wrong about us being "irrelevent"...that will never happen.

It's still ND. ND is still relevent. And ND will win again(I believe in the next 5 years). But right now, and over the last many years...we're mediocre AT BEST. Reilly is spot on about that.

Winning matters. Nothing else. Not graduating players, not charity work, not tradition....winning. All that stuff is real nice, but college footbal, these days, is all about the wins and losses.
 

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My primary points are:
1. This guy is a tool
2. He is paid to stir the pot, and take aim at easy targets
3. We have underperformed
4. We still are relevant if only for our fanbase and history
5. we are an easy target because of our performance
6. we are a prime target to stir because of our large and faithful fanbase
7. if we don't expect to hear from these morons, we're nuts.
8. win, and everyone shuts up
9. fuel the tool's fire, and we only help support his continued bad writing
10. and lastly,,,, haters always gonna hate. we should take some comfort that all these idiots want to talk about us. when they stop talking, we either are irrelevant, or we're winning.
 

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Ok...I'm in the big minority here...But I like Reilly and Cowheard. They're hilarious and, most of the time, are spot on with their assessments. Yeah, they can be downright rude about it...but if you pick yourself away from the emotional side of it (We're all ND fans) then he's actually telling you what most people think about the program. I hear it from buddies everyday. Do I agree with everything on here? Nope. But he does expose the truth on a few things (like giving up on the USC game).

Now, I don't know what prompted him to write this article, as some have stated...we've heard this before...but it is what it is.

Best thing we can do? Is win. And dominate. And shut the haters up. Reilly is wrong about us being "irrelevent"...that will never happen.

It's still ND. ND is still relevent. And ND will win again(I believe in the next 5 years). But right now, and over the last many years...we're mediocre AT BEST. Reilly is spot on about that.

Winning matters. Nothing else. Not graduating players, not charity work, not tradition....winning. All that stuff is real nice, but college footbal, these days, is all about the wins and losses.


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My primary points are:
1. This guy is a tool
2. He is paid to stir the pot, and take aim at easy targets
3. We have underperformed
4. We still are relevant if only for our fanbase and history
5. we are an easy target because of our performance
6. we are a prime target to stir because of our large and faithful fanbase
7. if we don't expect to hear from these morons, we're nuts.
8. win, and everyone shuts up
9. fuel the tool's fire, and we only help support his continued bad writing
10. and lastly,,,, haters always gonna hate. we should take some comfort that all these idiots want to talk about us. when they stop talking, we either are irrelevant, or we're winning.

Exactly.
 

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Laughably inaccurate statements from the article:

1. "ND is no more of a national brand then Stanford".... first, ND is the ONLY national brand and it is the reason why we are able to recruit nationally despite mediocre records. Period. The numbers show this. ND is as big in NYC as it is in Chicago... and then it also has large followings in just about every major city from Philly to Boston to Washington, DC. Second, he's actually putting Stanford... that couldn't even fill their small stadium until this past season and has absolutely no fans outside of those directly related to the school... on level with a team that is on national TV (not just NBC!!!) every single Saturday because we have that kind of following. He lost all his credibility with this one statement.

2. ND "hasn't been a factor in almost 20 years" when we have 3 BCS bowl appearances in the past decade. And were as high as #2 receiving first place votes in 2006... staying almost the entire year well within the top10/top 5. That is serious revisionist history to say not once in 20 years have we been a "factor" and is roughly equivalent to saying someone like Stanford... who had a couple top 10ish finishes the past two seasons... "hasn't been a factor in X many years". Saying ND hasn't been a factor in five years would be accurate; 20 is not.

3. "hellahype" "undeserved seat at BCS" "TV deal"... how does he think that being ranked towards the bottom end of the top 25 and then just finishing outside of the top 25 is "hellahype?" How is a seat in BCS discussions "undeserved" when we still carry more cache, money, viewers, etc. than any other singular CFB team and play a top 5 hardest schedule almost every single year? How is the TV deal undeserved when ABC/CBS/etc. broadcast all of our away games anyways?

4. "What kind of national brand loses to Tulsa?"... Tulsa finished the year as a freasking Top 25 team. Here are much worse losses by the other three teams he names around teh same year:
Stanford lost to 5-7 Wake Forest in 2009
USC lost to 5-7 Washington in 2009
Alabama lost to Louisiana-Monroe in 2007

5. "I see 6-5"... shows a complete misunderstanding of how many college football games are in a season.

6. "somebody needs to make Notre Dame play by the same rules as everyone else"... who is the 'somebody' and what rules is Notre Dame exempt from? Name one. I'll wait. You know who needs to play by the same rules as everyone else? The schools who cheat and pay players... and the entire SEC and their 25 recruits a year oversigning BS.

7. He ends the 'article' by comparing the "Penn State mess" to his opinion that ND should somehow voluntarily give up a TV deal that was negotiated between two parties on the free and open market, give up all input in the BCS/playoff process, and not be allowed to be voted #24 in the polls. Again... this hack is somehow comparing THE SERIAL RAPE OF LITTLE BOYS AND THE CRIMINAL COVER UP OF SAID RAPES to his imaginary list of what ND should do. EL-OH-f*cking-EL

$2 mil a year, ladies and gentlemen.... $2 mil a year........................
 

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The whole "JOIN A CONFERENCE" argument cracks me up. Why would ND haters really want us in a conference? Right now we play in the Big East for other sports, so it's safe to assume football would have joined there. Looking at the Big East, how many times would ND have played in a BCS bowl because of their automatic bid? We'd be there every freakin year! At least while independent we are forced to win at least 9 of our games (not just the majority of our conference games) and be ranked top 14 in the country (Not just top of the conference).

I cannot fathom why on God's green Earth a Notre Dame hater would want us to make our schedule easier year in and year out and walk into BCS bowls just like the rest of the mediocre conference champs every season....makes absolutely no sense to me.
 

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Laughably inaccurate statements from the article:

1. "ND is no more of a national brand then Stanford".... first, ND is the ONLY national brand and it is the reason why we are able to recruit nationally despite mediocre records. Period. The numbers show this. ND is as big in NYC as it is in Chicago... and then it also has large followings in just about every major city from Philly to Boston to Washington, DC. Second, he's actually putting Stanford... that couldn't even fill their small stadium until this past season and has absolutely no fans outside of those directly related to the school... on level with a team that is on national TV (not just NBC!!!) every single Saturday because we have that kind of following. He lost all his credibility with this one statement.

2. ND "hasn't been a factor in almost 20 years" when we have 3 BCS bowl appearances in the past decade. And were as high as #2 receiving first place votes in 2006... staying almost the entire year well within the top10/top 5. That is serious revisionist history to say not once in 20 years have we been a "factor" and is roughly equivalent to saying someone like Stanford... who had a couple top 10ish finishes the past two seasons... "hasn't been a factor in X many years". Saying ND hasn't been a factor in five years would be accurate; 20 is not.

3. "hellahype" "undeserved seat at BCS" "TV deal"... how does he think that being ranked towards the bottom end of the top 25 and then just finishing outside of the top 25 is "hellahype?" How is a seat in BCS discussions "undeserved" when we still carry more cache, money, viewers, etc. than any other singular CFB team and play a top 5 hardest schedule almost every single year? How is the TV deal undeserved when ABC/CBS/etc. broadcast all of our away games anyways?

4. "What kind of national brand loses to Tulsa?"... Tulsa finished the year as a freasking Top 25 team. Here are much worse losses by the other three teams he names around teh same year:
Stanford lost to 5-7 Wake Forest in 2009
USC lost to 5-7 Washington in 2009
Alabama lost to Louisiana-Monroe in 2007

5. "I see 6-5"... shows a complete misunderstanding of how many college football games are in a season.

6. "somebody needs to make Notre Dame play by the same rules as everyone else"... who is the 'somebody' and what rules is Notre Dame exempt from? Name one. I'll wait. You know who needs to play by the same rules as everyone else? The schools who cheat and pay players... and the entire SEC and their 25 recruits a year oversigning BS.

7. He ends the 'article' by comparing the "Penn State mess" to his opinion that ND should somehow voluntarily give up a TV deal that was negotiated between two parties on the free and open market, give up all input in the BCS/playoff process, and not be allowed to be voted #24 in the polls. Again... this hack is somehow comparing THE SERIAL RAPE OF LITTLE BOYS AND THE CRIMINAL COVER UP OF SAID RAPES to his imaginary list of what ND should do. EL-OH-f*cking-EL

$2 mil a year, ladies and gentlemen.... $2 mil a year........................

Amazing response! Mad props for that one
 

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Ok...I'm in the big minority here...But I like Reilly and Cowheard. They're hilarious and, most of the time, are spot on with their assessments.

Uh huh. Anyway this article is as stupid as Rick Reily.
 
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Do you guys think ND quit against USC last year like he said?

Absolutley. Nothing about the final 7 mins would lead you to think otherwise. Even the other team said they quit. (yes, it's the Trojans, but when the other team say's you quit, it's pretty bad)

Or BK made the worst coaching move of his career?

Either way, it was awful.
 

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Uh huh. Anyway this article is as stupid as Rick Reily.

Nice edit.


So I can't like Reilly and Cowheard? What's wrong with that? I don't agree with everything in this article, but I like his work overall and he's written some FANTASIC pieces (his one after 9-11 is one of the best of all time)
 

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Laughably inaccurate statements from the article:

1. "ND is no more of a national brand then Stanford".... first, ND is the ONLY national brand and it is the reason why we are able to recruit nationally despite mediocre records. Period. The numbers show this. ND is as big in NYC as it is in Chicago... and then it also has large followings in just about every major city from Philly to Boston to Washington, DC. Second, he's actually putting Stanford... that couldn't even fill their small stadium until this past season and has absolutely no fans outside of those directly related to the school... on level with a team that is on national TV (not just NBC!!!) every single Saturday because we have that kind of following. He lost all his credibility with this one statement.

2. ND "hasn't been a factor in almost 20 years" when we have 3 BCS bowl appearances in the past decade. And were as high as #2 receiving first place votes in 2006... staying almost the entire year well within the top10/top 5. That is serious revisionist history to say not once in 20 years have we been a "factor" and is roughly equivalent to saying someone like Stanford... who had a couple top 10ish finishes the past two seasons... "hasn't been a factor in X many years". Saying ND hasn't been a factor in five years would be accurate; 20 is not.

3. "hellahype" "undeserved seat at BCS" "TV deal"... how does he think that being ranked towards the bottom end of the top 25 and then just finishing outside of the top 25 is "hellahype?" How is a seat in BCS discussions "undeserved" when we still carry more cache, money, viewers, etc. than any other singular CFB team and play a top 5 hardest schedule almost every single year? How is the TV deal undeserved when ABC/CBS/etc. broadcast all of our away games anyways?

4. "What kind of national brand loses to Tulsa?"... Tulsa finished the year as a freasking Top 25 team. Here are much worse losses by the other three teams he names around teh same year:
Stanford lost to 5-7 Wake Forest in 2009
USC lost to 5-7 Washington in 2009
Alabama lost to Louisiana-Monroe in 2007

5. "I see 6-5"... shows a complete misunderstanding of how many college football games are in a season.

6. "somebody needs to make Notre Dame play by the same rules as everyone else"... who is the 'somebody' and what rules is Notre Dame exempt from? Name one. I'll wait. You know who needs to play by the same rules as everyone else? The schools who cheat and pay players... and the entire SEC and their 25 recruits a year oversigning BS.

7. He ends the 'article' by comparing the "Penn State mess" to his opinion that ND should somehow voluntarily give up a TV deal that was negotiated between two parties on the free and open market, give up all input in the BCS/playoff process, and not be allowed to be voted #24 in the polls. Again... this hack is somehow comparing THE SERIAL RAPE OF LITTLE BOYS AND THE CRIMINAL COVER UP OF SAID RAPES to his imaginary list of what ND should do. EL-OH-f*cking-EL

$2 mil a year, ladies and gentlemen.... $2 mil a year........................

Send him this! Seriously. You make great points and I'd be interested to see what his response is...
 

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Nice edit.


So I can't like Reilly and Cowheard? What's wrong with that? I don't agree with everything in this article, but I like his work overall and he's written some FANTASIC pieces (his one after 9-11 is one of the best of all time)

Cowherd said somewhere in either 2011 that Notre Dame doesn't recruit elite defensive linemen. my favorite part was that he is a Tony Romo homer and thinks that Romo is comparible to Aaron rodgers. he also berated Rodgers before he won the superbowl.

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