Why not Crist?

[Notre John]

Going in to the Stanford game Kelly was vocal that Crist was #2, yet Hendrix played the second half. Why?

Possible theories:

1. Hendrix clearly outperforms Crist in practice.
2. Kelly is looking to the future and trying to find an answer.
3. Crist playing well would make Kelly look bad somehow.
4. Crist has not actually been 100% this year.
5. Something I am not thinking of?

I know there are a lot of qb threads right now, but I would really like to hear some opinions on the way Crist has been treated and possible explanations.

 

[4irishnation]

2. Kelly is looking to the future and trying to find an answer.

YOU ANSWERED IT YOURSELF #2

 

[Notre John]

Probably the way I am leaning as well, however; I am not sure that everything said and done this year completely supports that conclusion.

 

[BGIF]

"5. Something I am not thinking of?"

"5. Something I am not thinking of?"

Kelly had prepared Hendrix as a game changer (style of play) throughout the season. Crist was #2 at the other style.

 

[EifertPower]

Going in to the Stanford game Kelly was vocal that Crist was #2, yet Hendrix played the second half. Why?

Possible theories:

1. Hendrix clearly outperforms Crist in practice.
2. Kelly is looking to the future and trying to find an answer.
3. Crist playing well would make Kelly look bad somehow.
4. Crist has not actually been 100% this year.
5. Something I am not thinking of?

6. Kelly wants Gunner Kiel and also wants to keep Hendrix and Golson from tranferring and playing Crist would in a way say that Kelly isn't giving the young guys a chance and could lead them to believe that he might bring back Crist for a 5th year of eligibility.

 

[TerryTate]

Crist would have gotten murdered just like Rees. Needed mobility against the pass rush

 

[Grahambo]

The Crist story is over. He had his chance at redemption and fumbled it. I love Crist but the spread just isn't for him.

 

[gspjeb]

to beat Stanford you need a very mobile QB unless your O Line is over the top......Hendrix was the better choice of the two and the game really didnt matter all that much in the grand scheme of things so get experience for the future

 

[IrishinSyria]

Kelly loathes Crist. Also, the change of pace thing, even though Crist has better mobility than Rees.

 

[enrico514]

I wanted Crist 2 but Hendrix was the right choice against Stanford (and in Kelly's offence).

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Crist would have gotten murdered just like Rees. Needed mobility against the pass rush

Crist has mobility, we've seen that over and over. He would not have done as badly as Tommy. Through the first 8 games they were similiar. Tommy never improved. I find it hard to believe Dayne would not have improved either.

Kelly blew it by pulling him early and putting in a guy with a 12 year old girl's arm.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Going in to the Stanford game Kelly was vocal that Crist was #2, yet Hendrix played the second half. Why?

Possible theories:

1. Hendrix clearly outperforms Crist in practice.
2. Kelly is looking to the future and trying to find an answer.
3. Crist playing well would make Kelly look bad somehow.
4. Crist has not actually been 100% this year.
5. Something I am not thinking of?

I know there are a lot of qb threads right now, but I would really like to hear some opinions on the way Crist has been treated and possible explanations.

#2.

 

[OCIrish]

I'm thinking it has to do with the future of this team.

 

[NDFan537]

Crist has mobility, we've seen that over and over. He would not have done as badly as Tommy. Through the first 8 games they were similiar. Tommy never improved. I find it hard to believe Dayne would not have improved either.

Kelly blew it by pulling him early and putting in a guy with a 12 year old girl's arm.

Agree totally. Made an emotional decision during a rain delay and then Tommy looked ok against a bad team. He stuck with him at Michigan and the kid played his tale off. Even leading us on a game winning drive, except the corners forgot how to cover in prevent. The problem from the start was if he pulled Tommy for Dayne. Tommy would lose confidence and since he is well below average to start with his confidence is his greatest strength. If BK had gone with Dayne and then an injury had happened, which it would have, the whole season would have been a disaster. I love Crist and hope he goes somewhere and makes us look like total dumba***es. BK made a terrible decision.

All that being said. Hendy looked like a bad man, and I want to know what took so long to get him in there. Hope he starts the Bowl game. Give him 4 weeks to prepare and no one on this board will have any doubt. Don't forget everything he did, he did on a whim with no preparation. He didn't even know the whole offense, BK has said over and over he never taught it to him. He is special and the future is bright.

 

[JadeBrecks]

After watching hendrix performance verses crist past performances do you need to even ask? Crist is done. Rees has topped out performance wise. Hendrix is the future.

 

[kmoose]

The announcers mentioned that Kelly had a goal line package for Hendrix in the game plan. I'm guessing that that means that Hendrix got limited reps with the first team, during the week, while Dayne probably got none. I would say that probably was as big a factor as anything else. Though it probably wasn't the only factor.

 

[indyron]

Lets not forget about Golson! I was very impressed with Hendrix yesterday. These two guys will have one helluva battle in the spring for the starting job!! As for Crist, I have been rooting for him all year. Great kid and I hope he transfers somewhere and plays his *** off.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

After watching hendricks performance verses crist past performances do you need to even ask? Crist is done. Rees has topped out performance wise. Hendricks is the future.

Actually, if you watched yesterday, you merely saw a more mobile Dayne.

Hendrix threw for under 50%. He got sacked ugly a few times. And his accuracy was a bit off. He did not play as well as Dayne against a real team.

That being said, Kelly made the right choice to go to Hendrix and not Dayne. Hendrix is the future.

 

[pkt77242]

After watching hendricks performance verses crist past performances do you need to even ask? Crist is done. Rees has topped out performance wise. Hendricks is the future.

Unless it is Golson or Kiel if he commits or one of the 2013 QB's we are chasing.

Sigh, we don't know who the future is yet and we may not know for 9+ months.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Actually, if you watched yesterday, you merely saw a more mobile Dayne.

Hendrix threw for under 50%. He got sacked ugly a few times. And his accuracy was a bit off. He did not play as well as Dayne against a real team.

That being said, Kelly made the right choice to go to Hendrix and not Dayne. Hendrix is the future.

But.... One's a sophomore making arguably the most meaningful snaps of his life and then there's the senior...who should be well beyond what he's produced, which is sadly, nothing.

 

[JadeBrecks]

Actually, if you watched yesterday, you merely saw a more mobile Dayne.

Hendrix threw for under 50%. He got sacked ugly a few times. And his accuracy was a bit off. He did not play as well as Dayne against a real team.

That being said, Kelly made the right choice to go to Hendrix and not Dayne. Hendrix is the future.

his sacks were of unblocked defenders and he got out of a few with his mobility. After he settled in his accuracy was something we haven't seen in a long time at nd plus he did a lot of it on the move. Granted he had a few bad passes at the beginning but its his first game, its the number four team, and he was getting pressured like no other.

P.s. This is his first year of eligibility used!

 

[ACSlaterJeans]

Can anyone name one performance by Crist that jumped out at them in a "this is one hell of a qb" kinda way?

 

[NDPhilly]

Can anyone name one performance by Crist that jumped out at them in a "this is one hell of a qb" kinda way?

that thow vs Wash St to Goodman was impressive. 2010 Michigan St he was pretty good.

 

[koonja]

Can anyone name one performance by Crist that jumped out at them in a "this is one hell of a qb" kinda way?

To be fair, can you say that about any of the other QBs? Didn't think so.

To answer your QU, his performance vs. Michigan last year. More specifically, this play:

Kyle Rudolph 95 yard Touchdown / ND vs. Michigan 2010 - YouTube

Goosebumps everytime.

 

[returnofthemack]

Can anyone name one performance by Crist that jumped out at them in a "this is one hell of a qb" kinda way?

2010 Michigan, MSU

 

[ACSlaterJeans]

To be fair, can you say that about any of the other QBs? Didn't think so.

To answer your QU, his performance vs. Michigan last year. More specifically, this play:

Kyle Rudolph 95 yard Touchdown / ND vs. Michigan 2010 - YouTube

Goosebumps everytime.

I can't say that for any of the other QBs, no. He had flashes of greatness, but his decision making was really erratic, and he was prone to bounce passes. I don't think 1 half against USF warranted a career ender, but I'm not certain we benched a Heisman candidate either.


That was a hell of a throw.

 

[DCirishfan]

Why not? Because clearly two unlucky fumbles equals he sucks. Obviously Tommy Rees was sooooo much better and was so great about not having bad turnovers. Oh wait.

 

[JadeBrecks]

Why not? Because clearly two unlucky fumbles equals he sucks. Obviously Tommy Rees was sooooo much better and was so great about not having bad turnovers. Oh wait.

Badness always seamed to follow dayne. Not saying he is horrible. Rees I think has unfortunately topped out performance wise. I don't think he has any more physically and you can tell his decision making isn't going anywhere than where it is/has been. I see a massive bit of potential in hendrix. Does he have flaws? Yes. But I think he has far less and more potential than the other two. Plus he will play our coaches offense.

 

[EifertPower]

Can anyone name one performance by Crist that jumped out at them in a "this is one hell of a qb" kinda way?

2010 vs. Michigan as some other posters have said. That was one awesome and gutsy performance. No way we lose that game if he played the whole game. The Rudolph TD gives me goosebumps and the TJ Jones TD early in the second half just coming back into the game from a concussion was legendary.

 

[woolybug25]

After watching hendricks performance verses crist past performances do you need to even ask? Crist is done. Rees has topped out performance wise. Hendricks is the future.

Who is this Hendricks character in which you speak? Did he come into the game after Hendrix?