Who's Next? - 2024 Edition

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It’s weird how people don’t want to admit ND is doing NIL well.
Dante Moore, Peyton Bowen, Keon Keeley. I don't think it's weird at all. If we had a NIL to match others taking it seriously, Freeman would have signed a championship contending class in year 1.
 

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It’s weird how people don’t want to admit ND is doing NIL well.
We do NIL fine with grad transfers (Hartman) and current players. It’s the recruits part of NIL that we need to figure out, if we’re ever going to “close the gap.”

On that note, does anyone know if Carter is in fact a grad transfer? Or is he still undergrad? If it’s the latter and we land him, that might signal even bigger changes in how we do things than the NIL part.
 

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Dante Moore, Peyton Bowen, Keon Keeley. I don't think it's weird at all. If we had a NIL to match others taking it seriously, Freeman would have signed a championship contending class in year 1.
Nope. They do NIL well with current players. I’d rather take care of the Michael Mayer’s than throw money at the Keeley’s and Bowen’s.
 

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We do NIL fine with grad transfers (Hartman) and current players. It’s the recruits part of NIL that we need to figure out, if we’re ever going to “close the gap.”

On that note, does anyone know if Carter is in fact a grad transfer? Or is he still undergrad? If it’s the latter and we land him, that might signal even bigger changes in how we do things than the NIL part.
They’re using NIL how it is intended and doing it well. I have a feeling at some point it’s going to swing in ND’s direction
 

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They’re using NIL how it is intended and doing it well. I have a feeling at some point it’s going to swing in ND’s direction
I hope you’re right. But it sucks to finally hire a coach who is a great recruiter and watch us lose out on guys like Keeley (and who knows who else) because we’re basically the only ones who feel compelled to play by what passes for “the rules.”
 

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I hope you’re right. But it sucks to finally hire a coach who is a great recruiter and watch us lose out on guys like Keeley (and who knows who else) because we’re basically the only ones who feel compelled to play by what passes for “the rules.”
Don’t you think at some point the people putting money into the Oregon’s, Miami’s, etc aren’t gonna wonder why they aren’t winning national championships, conference championships, etc?. How many players are gonna get fucked over and transfer? I’m just saying, at some point it seems like something is going to swing
 

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Dante Moore, Peyton Bowen, Keon Keeley. I don't think it's weird at all. If we had a NIL to match others taking it seriously, Freeman would have signed a championship contending class in year 1.
This… Paige Edwards (maybe)
 

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I agree with you an extent but you’re also not gonna have many Michael Mayers if they don’t/haven’t adjusted their approach
They have Cam Williams and CJ Carr committed, obviously it’s still a ways to go, but eventually the “you’ll be taken care of when you get on campus” is gonna start to win out especially if it’s being followed through with.
 
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Dante Moore, Peyton Bowen, Keon Keeley. I don't think it's weird at all. If we had a NIL to match others taking it seriously, Freeman would have signed a championship contending class in year 1.
Sure. But at the same time, it wouldn’t shock me of any if them transferred after year 1
 

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Don’t you think at some point the people putting money into the Oregon’s, Miami’s, etc aren’t gonna wonder why they aren’t winning national championships, conference championships, etc?. How many players are gonna get fucked over and transfer? I’m just saying, at some point it seems like something is going to swing
you would think that and yet go back and look at who we were projecting as real options or likely for this 2024 class and look at who we talk about now. I am more in agreement with you than not, but it’s also clearly a bitch
 

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Dante Moore, Peyton Bowen, Keon Keeley. I don't think it's weird at all. If we had a NIL to match others taking it seriously, Freeman would have signed a championship contending class in year 1.
Each one of these fall in a different category:
-Moore NIL and playing time
-Keeley NIL and development
-Bowen NIL and gf
 

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I think both things can be true.

Everything is better in the Freeman era. The hype is part of the gig.

Carter is a big addition to the roster not just for this year but next.
 

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They have CJ Williams and CJ Carr committed, obviously it’s still a ways to go, but eventually the “you’ll be taken care of when you get on campus” is gonna start to win out especially if it’s being followed through with.
Dude can’t make up his mind I see!
 

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I forgot to mention it before, but IB always leaks things if you pay attention to their conversations.
Last week they were talking about where ND is recruiting hard, then talked about Texas.
They ran down Texas commits before Freeman & since hiring him as DC.
As they were talking numbers, they just threw out there ND already had one in the class (Moore) & there would be another in the coming weeks.
You could tell from the conversation they were talking about Loghan Thomas.
 

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I forgot to mention it before, but IB always leaks things if you pay attention to their conversations.
Last week they were talking about where ND is recruiting hard, then talked about Texas.
They ran down Texas commits before Freeman & since hiring him as DC.
As they were talking numbers, they just threw out there ND already had one in the class (Moore) & there would be another in the coming weeks.
You could tell from the conversation they were talking about Loghan Thomas.
And funny a few weeks ago they didnt consider ND a real option when talking vypwr candidates
 

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I could see Guerby Lambert popping after his OV in June.
With Lambert, Brix & Prescod all being on campus at the same time, OL recruiting will be wrapped up that weekend.
Ever who commits first between Brix & Prescod and wait as long as needed for Lanbert.
But Brix or Prescod will definitely commit, because ND is bringing them all in together on purpose to force their hand. If Brix or Prescod leave uncommitted, their spot is gone.
 

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Is there still one more commit announcement expected this weekend?
 

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With Lambert, Brix & Prescod all being on campus at the same time, OL recruiting will be wrapped up that weekend.
Ever who commits first between Brix & Prescod and wait as long as needed for Lanbert.
But Brix or Prescod will definitely commit, because ND is bringing them all in together on purpose to force their hand. If Brix or Prescod leave uncommitted, their spot is gone.
If all 3 want in you take all 3 let the numbers work themselves out especially with OTT most likely gone after this year and then transfer and Blake Fisher could always leave early
 
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