What will the BCS do if this happens?

[GoIrish2917]

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There could seriously be 7 undefeated teams by the end of the year. Not saying it is going to happen... But is you look at it, it very well could happen.

Both Wisconsin and Michigan(want to puck) out of the big10
With Ok or OKST out of the Big12
Clemson or GT out of the ACC
Bama or LSU out of the SEC'
Stanford has a shot from the Pac12
Boise St

It will be real interesting for the BCS to try to explain to America how their system is fair if 7 teams were to finish undefeated... Again for all those that will jump all over me saying it will never happen - I agree - but if you look at the schedule and the math - it is not all that unlikely...

 

[johnnykillz]

Don't panic. Often, we are in the same predicament given undefeated teams at this point.

At the most, we might finish with 3 undefeated as we have had happen in the past already.

Ranking means everything in this NCAA BCS ran system.

If you don't like it, move to Utah and vote for elected officials to make the BCS's life hell.

 

[military_irish]

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There could seriously be 7 undefeated teams by the end of the year. Not saying it is going to happen... But is you look at it, it very well could happen.

Both Wisconsin and Michigan(want to puck) out of the big10
With Ok or OKST out of the Big12
Clemson or GT out of the ACC
Bama or LSU out of the SEC'
Stanford has a shot from the Pac12
Boise St

It will be real interesting for the BCS to try to explain to America how their system is fair if 7 teams were to finish undefeated... Again for all those that will jump all over me saying it will never happen - I agree - but if you look at the schedule and the math - it is not all that unlikely...

The Big Ten now has a Championship game. So it would be either Michigan or Wisconsin.

If it happens though, they will take the two teams ranked highest in the BCS Poll. Which would be between the SEC and Big 12 schools. Whomever they would be if they went undefeated.

I think this system is still better than being named a champion like it was before the BCS. I don't think it is perfect but I believe a playoff system is still far off.

 

[GoIrish2917]

ok - I forgot about the big 10 championship game... but we are still looking at 6 teams that have a clear shot at finishing undefeated...
Bama/LSU, MICH/WISC, OK/OKST, CLEM/GT, Boise - Stanford... personally - I hope we beat the snot out of Stanford - but realistically - we are looking at 4 to 5 teams finishing undefeated....

 

[Riddickulous]

The Big Ten now has a Championship game. So it would be either Michigan or Wisconsin.

If it happens though, they will take the two teams ranked highest in the BCS Poll. Which would be between the SEC and Big 12 schools. Whomever they would be if they went undefeated.

I think this system is still better than being named a champion like it was before the BCS. I don't think it is perfect but I believe a playoff system is still far off.

SEC West Champ and Oklahoma.

 

[NDbrbkny]

do you actually think michigan will run the table?

 

[GoIrish2917]

sorry - I should have labeled this thread different... because I fully understand that it will be LSU/BAMA vs OK/OKST .... my point of this questioning is that how do you tell an undefeated Clemson, Wisconsin, this is not Boise or TCU - these are major conferences....

 

[GoIrish2917]

If mich get's by michigan st - then yes, I think they will run the table until they meet Wisc.

 

[Riddickulous]

do you actually think michigan will run the table?

I kind of want them to, for two reasons:

1) Makes our schedule look better
2) To watch them get humiliated by Wisconsin in the Big 10 Championship Game

 

[GoIrish2917]

As much as I hate to admit it... an undefeated Mich team(choking as i type) matching up vs the loser of LSU/BAMA would be the best thing we could wish for...

 

[NDbrbkny]

I kind of want them to, for two reasons:

1) Makes our schedule look better
2) To watch them get humiliated by Wisconsin in the Big 10 Championship Game

well i think they will lose to nebraska

 

[Riddickulous]

well i think they will lose to nebraska

I could see them losing 4 of their next 6 (MSU, Illinois, Nebraska, OSU).

 

[meowmix]

I kind of want them to, for two reasons:

1) Makes our schedule look better
2) To watch them get humiliated by Wisconsin in the Big 10 Championship Game

I think our schedule would look better if MSU smashes scUM. UM beat us with a fluke 4th quarter while we dominated MSU. UM should not be ranked at all.

 

[BGIF]

ok - I forgot about the big 10 championship game... but we are still looking at 6 teams that have a clear shot at finishing undefeated...
Bama/LSU, MICH/WISC, OK/OKST, CLEM/GT, Boise - Stanford... personally - I hope we beat the snot out of Stanford - but realistically - we are looking at 4 to 5 teams finishing undefeated....

Currently the NCAA lists 13 undefeated teams.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2011/Internet/wlt/FBS_wlt.pdf

Of those 13 the one with the most favorable schedule is Houston.


But it doesn't matter, if there are 3 (ask Auburn) or 20 undefeated teams, as Military Irish noted,

If it happens though, they will take the two teams ranked highest in the BCS Poll. Which would be between the SEC and Big 12 schools. Whomever they would be if they went undefeated.

All the BCS is supposed to do is have #1 FACE #2 which with the bowl/conference tie-ins frequently did NOT happen.

Meanwhile ESPN and all the other talking heads will do chicken little pieces.

 

[BGIF]

I kind of want them to, for two reasons:

1) Makes our schedule look better
2) To watch them get humiliated by Wisconsin in the Big 10 Championship Game

You never want Michigan to win, even if they're playing Southern Cal!

Preseason ND trailed Michigan by 3.5 games for the ALL-TIME WINNING PERCENTAGE. Now we trail by 5.5.

As for S.O.S. the computers will factor in a MSU win. The coaches with their conference tie-ins are NOT going to give ND an attaboy for losing close. Sagarin already has. His PREDICTOR Model has ND as #12.

 

[ulukinatme]

Michigan loses at least one this year, that defense isn't as "Improved" as ESPN would leave you to believe. We hung 30+ on them and 500+ yards of offense. We also played a little more conservative the 2nd half. Theres the whole injury thing too. While Denard may not be running as often as he was last year, you're still rolling the dice anytime your little, mobile QB takes off with the ball. He didn't make it through last year without getting banged up, I don't see it happening this year either. Aside from that, Michigan could very well lose to Sparty, Nebraska, and even OSU. OSU will be up for that game, it will be competitive at least.

OK and OKST can't go undefeated, they play each other, so one will at least be at 1 loss and most likely one will be at 2 losses at least.

Wisconsin doesn't have anymore real tests outside of Michigan State, Illinois will get creamed by Wisky too. Illinois is not as good as they appear. They may be undefeated, but the only real team they've played is Arizona State in a close matchup. They also had close matchups against Northwestern and Western Kentucky. Zooker is going to lose eventually.

Clemson and GT play each other, so obviously one will come out with 1 loss at least. Clemson has another game or two that will be tough. I think Georgia Tech will drop one on their own as well, maybe against Virginia Tech.

LSU has a good chance to run the table, as does Alabama, aside from when they play each other. The conference game could always shake things up too, although the other division isn't nearly as strong.

Hopefully we can play well against Stanford...cause I don't see anyone else having a chance at this point against them, especially if Oregon will be without James.

Boise State has a couple tough games left on their schedule, but they will most likely be favored in all of them. They always perform well, so it wouldn't be out of the question to assume they'll run the table. They really need to get into a better conference though so they can avoid the back and forth about being excluded in the big game.

I could see as many as 3, maybe 4 unbeatens by the end of the year which would be par for the course.

 

[BurningRiver]

OK ST and OKLA play each other

so will scUM and WISC if both win their divisions

so that solves two of those problems.

 

[irishtrain]

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There could seriously be 7 undefeated teams by the end of the year. Not saying it is going to happen... But is you look at it, it very well could happen.

Both Wisconsin and Michigan(want to puck) out of the big10
With Ok or OKST out of the Big12
Clemson or GT out of the ACC
Bama or LSU out of the SEC'
Stanford has a shot from the Pac12
Boise St

It will be real interesting for the BCS to try to explain to America how their system is fair if 7 teams were to finish undefeated... Again for all those that will jump all over me saying it will never happen - I agree - but if you look at the schedule and the math - it is not all that unlikely...

I say at the end there's 3 max and maybe just two-it will be obvious who needs to play in the last game. With that said I dont like Boise getting left out just because of supposed schedule strength or lack thereof. They deserve a chance to play in the last game. They are very good.

 

[GoIrish2917]

In my opinion, the SEC and the Big12 will be playing in the National Title, but that could leave an undefeated Wisc, Clemson, and Boise St.... my question still remains - if 4 or more teams finish undefeated... esp if we are talking about the ACC and the BIG10 - how on earth does the BCS make sense going forward. Since the biggest blockers of a playoff are the Big 10 and the Pac 12, then nothing would be better than an undefeated Wisc missing the NC and a one loss Stanford(to ND of course) not making the BCS

 

[johnnykillz]

In my opinion, the SEC and the Big12 will be playing in the National Title...

Not necessarily: A three-way tie is my prediction with Texas beating Ok St, Ok St beating Okie, and of course the blow-out in the Red River rivalry.

A&M could sub in for either school (Ok St or Tex)

I'm picking Wiscy and LSU in the NC.

Okie and 'Bama in one.

Boise St and Clemson in one.

Stanford and WVU in the last of my predictions.

 

[military_irish]

In my opinion, the SEC and the Big12 will be playing in the National Title, but that could leave an undefeated Wisc, Clemson, and Boise St.... my question still remains - if 4 or more teams finish undefeated... esp if we are talking about the ACC and the BIG10 - how on earth does the BCS make sense going forward. Since the biggest blockers of a playoff are the Big 10 and the Pac 12, then nothing would be better than an undefeated Wisc missing the NC and a one loss Stanford(to ND of course) not making the BCS

I hear what you are saying here. The BCS would probably in shambles but in reality there will be maybe 2 teams undefeated. If someone is undefeated they will just have to "deal" with it. Nothing will be done.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

We need Michigan to lose at least twice. They're one of the few programs in favor of whom the BCS could pass over an eligible ND and select for the last at-large bid. If they go undefeated and lose to Wiscy in the B1G championship game-- even if they get blown out-- they might stick it to us one last time if they don't drop enough in the rankings. My heart couldn't take that.

NC: Oklahoma v. Alabama
Rose Bowl: Wisconsin v. Stanford
Sugar Bowl: LSU v. Boise State
Orange Bowl: WVU v. Clemson
Fiesta Bowl: Okie State v. Notre Dame

I we go 9-3, I'm feeling Champs Sports Bowl v. FSU. Would still be a good end to the season.

 

[johnnykillz]

We need Michigan to lose at least twice. They're one of the few programs in favor of whom the BCS could pass over an eligible ND and select for the last at-large bid. If they go undefeated and lose to Wiscy in the B1G championship game-- even if they get blown out-- they might stick it to us one last time if they don't drop enough in the rankings. My heart couldn't take that.

NC: Oklahoma v. Alabama
Rose Bowl: Wisconsin v. Stanford
Sugar Bowl: LSU v. Boise State
Orange Bowl: WVU v. Clemson
Fiesta Bowl: Okie State v. Notre Dame

I we go 9-3, I'm feeling Champs Sports Bowl v. FSU. Would still be a good end to the season.

This would be fantastic.

So, you're an optimist.

Good.

 

[phgreek]

Don't panic. Often, we are in the same predicament given undefeated teams at this point.

At the most, we might finish with 3 undefeated as we have had happen in the past already.

Ranking means everything in this NCAA BCS ran system.

If you don't like it, move to Utah and vote for elected officials to make the BCS's life hell.

Come on down...we'll take anyone who hates the BCS, Wolves, and generally any injustice perpetrated by the man...hehehe...we like guns too!

 

[johnnykillz]

Come on down...we'll take anyone who hates the BCS, Wolves, and generally any injustice perpetrated by the man...hehehe...we like guns too!

I lived there for 4 years.

I felt like a wolf, having to look at the same hot chicks at the same bars for my tenure.

Hot girls everywhere. with. goofy. fvcks.

I mostly enjoyed it though.

Best snow on earth. Amen.

 

[BGIF]

In my opinion, the SEC and the Big12 will be playing in the National Title, but that could leave an undefeated Wisc, Clemson, and Boise St.... my question still remains - if 4 or more teams finish undefeated... esp if we are talking about the ACC and the BIG10 - how on earth does the BCS make sense going forward. Since the biggest blockers of a playoff are the Big 10 and the Pac 12, then nothing would be better than an undefeated Wisc missing the NC and a one loss Stanford(to ND of course) not making the BCS

Again the BCS was started only to ensure that #1 faced #2. There was no intent to care about #3, #4, etc. The BCS was setup to ensure the survival of the bowl games and the monetary distribution to the conferences through tie-ins. It was devised to thwart what you are driving at. The playoff discussion has been around at least since ND jumped over Alabama for the ND in the final polls be destroying #1 undefeated Texas. If you go to a playoff format do you adjust it each year so only undefeated teams play? Determing the field in a playoff faces the same problem the current BCS has only magnified. They only have to rank #1 and #2. You'd have to seed "qualifying" teams and that's a whole 'nother can of worms.

The BCS is the format the ACC, PAC 12 and Big 10 voted for. Top 2 - others go elsewhere regardless of record. Ask Auburn.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

I'm a fairly pro-playoff guy, but these things ALWAYS work themselves out, or at least work themselves down to a manageable number of undefeated teams. It really helps the BCS that a good portion of these teams have to play each other.

Also, due to the joke out-of-conference schedules that a lot of these teams play, most of the undefeated teams are nothing more than paper tigers at this point (Michigan is a perfect example of this). Hell, I am a big believer in Wisconsin but they have played absolutely no one outside of an average-at-best Nebraska team. They, like many so-called powerhouses, refuse to leave the friendly confines of their home stadium until conference scheduling literally forces them to do so.

College football is the greatest sport in the world (and I am a HUGE soccer fan) because of magical upsets and the general unpredictability of at all. It honestly would not surprise me if only one undefeated team from an AQ conference emerges in the end. That's just the way college football works. I, for one, hope that at least two AQ teams come out undefeated because I really cannot stand the inbred rednecks that think the entire world is out to get Boise State (here's a tip: play someone!).

EDIT: I have to add one thing about this whole scenario. Surely the computers will absolutely love Clemson. In typical Clemson fashion, they will collapse down the stretch... but if they do somehow manage to go undefeated through the ACC Championship game, there is absolutely no way they could be denied a place in the BCSNCG with wins over Auburn, FSU, VT, Maryland, UNC, GT, Wake, South Carolina and another top ACC school in their conference championship. Although they started with Troy and Wofford, I admire a school that will add Auburn to an OOC schedule that already includes South Carolina every year.

 

[phork]

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Both Wisconsin and Michigan(want to puck) out of the big10
With Ok or OKST out of the Big12
Clemson or GT out of the ACC
Bama or LSU out of the SEC'
Stanford has a shot from the Pac12
Boise St

UM is out, Clemson and GT are out. Stanford is going to lose against Oregon. That leaves Wisky, OU, LSU & BSU. Sadly BSU gets frozen out again.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

UM is out, Clemson and GT are out. Stanford is going to lose against Oregon. That leaves Wisky, OU, LSU & BSU. Sadly BSU gets frozen out again.

BSU needs to join a conference because they are never going to get any love bc of their schedule, and noone is going to schedule them for an OOC game because thhey don't want to risk a NC run on losing to Boise State.

Strength of schedule needs to get thrown into the mix again. Its ridiculous that these teams ( Penn State) plays 3/4 of a season against **** poor competition, and gets rewarded for it. I wish Nick Saban would have beat the decrepit old man by 60 points. He needs to go, he's a disgrace

 

[IHateMarkMay]

UM is out, Clemson and GT are out. Stanford is going to lose against Oregon. That leaves Wisky, OU, LSU & BSU. Sadly BSU gets frozen out again.

Clemson, unfortunately, won yesterday.