Weis comments on ranking

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"One of the teams [Tennessee] that jumped us had the same game that we had. They're down, they're playing at home and they win by a field goal," Weis said Tuesday. "Another team [Florida] that jumped us wasn't even playing. They were home eating cheeseburgers and they end up jumping us. That befuddles me." - Weis
 

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Yeah, so you know what that means 4 blow outs in a row - sorry acadamies + NC the voters just screwed you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I'm not looking for him to run up the scores, but maybe it will provide some of the motivation that is lacking until we're in pressure situations. It would be nice to see an intensity at the beginning of a game instead of when we're worried about losing. Don't get me wrong, it's nice to see that they can bring it under pressure....that'll win, (actually has won) us a couple games.
 
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Too bad it didn't happen during the Michigan game. We would not be worried about getting jumped and would not be talking about this.
 

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Each position we're lower potentially costs the University millions of dollars if they lose out on a BCS Bowl. Wonder if the AD will push Weis to score more... if possible?
 

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it surprises me that he would make a comment showing that he actually cares about rankings.
I have said before this week that this team doesnt deserve to be in the top 10, so I think there should be one or two teams that should jump us.
 

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Why would he even be talking about rankings? Specifically, why would he say something about an idle team jumping them when we all know that any team who played Nd's schedule and had the same results would be ranked lower. Nd has beaten one good team, Georgia Tech, and they just faltered badly against Clemson. It's hypocritical (Nd ranking plus Weis talking about cheeseburgers), unnecessary and excessive. It's also a shot at Urban Meyer. It could also be a shot at the SEC (the two teams he was talking about). There must be some bad blood between the SEC and Nd (I know Spurrier hates Nd, heh).

Good teams do not care about rankings. Good coaches don't care about rankings. Perhaps he is worried that Nd won't get to #8 to guarentee a BCS spot, but for all the close calls, Nd still only has one loss. If they win out, they're defintely in a BCS game, and deservingly so (though they should be shut out completely from any NC considerations). Has Weis already assumed his team will lose to USC? Not a lot of confidence, if you asked me.
 
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he's probably talking about rankings because he got asked about it. he's answering the question honestly...

and, taking from sagarin, nd's sos is 15th in the nation. not exactly terrible. yeah, ga tech faltered, but they're still ranked, and clemson isn't exactly a bad team...

Has Weis already assumed his team will lose to USC? Not a lot of confidence, if you asked me.
not sure where you got this... by your logic (assuming he's thinking about a BCS bid), they would have to win out for their ranking to matter. Since he's worried about their ranking, he's assumedly thinking about a BCS bid, which would mean that he's figuring on winning out, no? i think somewhere in your logic, you tried to put the square peg in the round hole.
 

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"One of the teams [Tennessee] that jumped us had the same game that we had. They're down, they're playing at home and they win by a field goal," Weis said Tuesday. "Another team [Florida] that jumped us wasn't even playing. They were home eating cheeseburgers and they end up jumping us. That befuddles me." - Weis

He's really showing his NFL bias. In the NFL, a win is a win. There are no rankings. W-L is all that matters.

In college...its another story all together. There are points for being sexy...and that's all there is to it.
 

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... not sure where you got this... by your logic ...

He has no logic. He's simply trolling flames note:

It's hypocritical (Nd ranking plus Weis talking about cheeseburgers), unnecessary and excessive.

It's also a shot at Urban Meyer.

It could also be a shot at the SEC (the two teams he was talking about).

There must be some bad blood between the SEC and Nd (I know Spurrier hates Nd, heh).

Has Weis already assumed his team will lose to USC?


His M.O. is to slide not so subtle barbs in among general conversation. He gets his jollies when good people like you respond to him like he was sincere. Have you ever seen one of his posts where he capitalized both "N" and "D"? Ignore him.
 
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I'm confused, there have been no instances this year where we could have ran up the score. Weis didn't put the breaks on stanford/purdue... we were HOENSTLY trying - there is no clear indication to me right now we are capable of 'running up a score'.
 
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I dont think it really matters much if we drop a spot or two or if we run the score up in the next couple games. If we beat USC we will be in a BCS game, it all comes down to that game. Win out and take care of business @SC and we're set..
 

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I dont think it really matters much if we drop a spot or two or if we run the score up in the next couple games. If we beat USC we will be in a BCS game, it all comes down to that game. Win out and take care of business @SC and we're set..

My exact thoughts!!!
 

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Each position we're lower potentially costs the University millions of dollars if they lose out on a BCS Bowl. Wonder if the AD will push Weis to score more... if possible?

Actually, under White's new deal with the BCS, ND only gets $4 million for making a BCS game. If they don't make it, they get $1. Plus the payout from whichever bowl they make it to. Add that $1 million to the Gator or Cotton Bowls and it would probably be near $4 million.
 

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And yes, V V has taken on a trolling tone, which he never really had prior to UM beating the Irish. maison talked some fun smack beforehand and has earned the right to continue to do so.

V V's subtle trolling is getting annoying. ralphie's banning left an opening on my ignore list. I think I've found someone to fill it.
 

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Why would he even be talking about rankings? Specifically, why would he say something about an idle team jumping them when we all know that any team who played Nd's schedule and had the same results would be ranked lower. Nd has beaten one good team, Georgia Tech, and they just faltered badly against Clemson. It's hypocritical (Nd ranking plus Weis talking about cheeseburgers), unnecessary and excessive. It's also a shot at Urban Meyer. It could also be a shot at the SEC (the two teams he was talking about). There must be some bad blood between the SEC and Nd (I know Spurrier hates Nd, heh).

Good teams do not care about rankings. Good coaches don't care about rankings. Perhaps he is worried that Nd won't get to #8 to guarentee a BCS spot, but for all the close calls, Nd still only has one loss. If they win out, they're defintely in a BCS game, and deservingly so (though they should be shut out completely from any NC considerations). Has Weis already assumed his team will lose to USC? Not a lot of confidence, if you asked me.

Maybe he's talking about rankings, because he got asked about rankings. I've said it once and I'll say it again...you are such a troll. You should be talking about Michigan and them staying perfect so that if they beat OSU, they will play for the NC. Are you doing that? No. You're trolling other boards and writing useless comments.
 

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Weis has said over and over that he refuses to run up the score on any team...even after his son and wife told him he needed to do it. He is still stuck in an NFL mindset that a W is a W....but in college football style points count and beating an unranked UCLA team by 3 is not going to get it done in the mind of the voters out there. If Weis wants to stop dropping in the rankings he needs to soundly beat Navy, who by the way is still a decent team without their QB, and then lay about 63 on UNC.
 

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Had the Irish beaten Michigan by one point, they'd be sitting at #2 right now. If they win out, they'll play in a BCS bowl.

Style points won't matter much in the end.
 
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Why would he even be talking about rankings? Specifically, why would he say something about an idle team jumping them when we all know that any team who played Nd's schedule and had the same results would be ranked lower. Nd has beaten one good team, Georgia Tech, and they just faltered badly against Clemson. It's hypocritical (Nd ranking plus Weis talking about cheeseburgers), unnecessary and excessive. It's also a shot at Urban Meyer. It could also be a shot at the SEC (the two teams he was talking about). There must be some bad blood between the SEC and Nd (I know Spurrier hates Nd, heh).

Good teams do not care about rankings. Good coaches don't care about rankings. Perhaps he is worried that Nd won't get to #8 to guarentee a BCS spot, but for all the close calls, Nd still only has one loss. If they win out, they're defintely in a BCS game, and deservingly so (though they should be shut out completely from any NC considerations). Has Weis already assumed his team will lose to USC? Not a lot of confidence, if you asked me.

Good coaches don't worry about rankings? Are you crazy? Yeah, I bet Lloyd Carr and Pete Carroll don't care who's number 2. If USC and West Virginia jumped scUM after a win, Lloyd Carr wouldn't care. Right. I bet Fulmer, Tuberville and Meyer couldn't care less where they rank either? Please.
 

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Lloyd Carr is trying to keep Adrian Arrington out of jail right now.

Manningham hurt, Arrington in trouble. Maybe Steve Breaston flunks an Algebra test and is ineligible.

Mike Hart gets 40 carries per game.
 
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Lloyd Carr is trying to keep Adrian Arrington out of jail right now.

Manningham hurt, Arrington in trouble. Maybe Steve Breaston flunks an Algebra test and is ineligible.

Mike Hart gets 40 carries per game.

There is no way Breaston is taking algebra, not enough pictures in the books.
 

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You're right.

That and Arrington's girlfriend probably won't press charges on him.

The underaged drinking thing sure does suck, though. I'm sure he'll get off and it will be handled "internally." He'll be on the field Saturday.
 
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I cease to me amazed by the genuine hate people have for ND. I work with a BC grad who loathes everything about ND. I congratulate him when BC wins and agree that BC should be ranked higher and get a little more respect. He can't bring himself to recriprocate. All I hear is how "my boy" is now whining & crying and sounds like Tommy Tuberville.

I called him Saturday to congratulate him on the win over FSU and his response is "if only ND had lost, the day would be perfect".
 

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First of all, regarding Adrian Arrington, you might be surprised by our reaction. We are not going to allow someone who committed a crime to play on the field. As radical as it may sound to Nd fans, there are other teams out there who care about ethics.

I have not read the police report against Arrington, but I have a rough idea of what the "domestic violence" was. It was simply Arrington pulling his girlfriend out of the car. Apparently, there was a "scratch," whatever that means. She did not pursue medical attention, nor was she offered medical attention, to the best of my knowledge. The way I look at it, I can understand why they would preemptively charge Arrington or anyone else. Oftentimes in real domestic violence cases, the victim often wants to protect the aggressor, so playing it safe does make sense (though there can be an awful lot of innocent people). But here, I have a hard time believing that anything actually happened. If you're going to convict AA for this, then you might as well arrest every woman who slaps a man on the face and leaves a red mark, bruise or scratch. I don't think AA commited domestic violence.

So you're right, that charge will probably be dropped. But I do believe that he at least might have been drinking. I don't know how much. The problem is, he wasn't charged with underaged drinking and I don't think you can charge him now that his girlfriend alleges it. There were no cameras who caught AA driving while under the influence and there were no witnesses to speak of. There's no case here either.

If AA was drinking, he should consider himself lucky that the system simply didn't have enough proof to convict him. That said, I have a very very very very difficult time believing that he's the only college football player who drinks at least some alcohol. And I have a very very very very very difficult time believing that no current or former Irish players have done the same, or that the lack of punishment (he'll probably play this Sat, not that it matters), would not be implemented at Nd or elsewhere.

Regarding the rankings comment, you really have no leg to stand on. Does Rich Rodriguez worry about rankings? Of course. Bobby Petrino? Of course. But you can't publicize it. You have to keep those thought internally. Why? Simple, you don't want your players hearing this. It's a huge distraction. What happened after Tuberville complained about the difficulty of the SEC? His team lost, at home, by a wide margin, to Arkansas. Like I said, this message says to his team "we have no chance against USC, we need to be #8 with 2 losses." Why would he publicize this? If Nd wins out, there's is a zero percent chance they will be left out of a BCS game.

And another thing, Florida does deserve to be higher than Nd. Florida has beaten LSU and Tennessee. Who as Nd beaten? A Georgia Tech team that was just blown out by Clemson. Florida lost their game by 10, Nd lost by 26. At this point, Florida does deserve to be higher.

Oh, and another thing, Nd fans oftentimes think they have the smartest players. I would like to see some proof. What were the average SAT/ACT scores of all football players? Anyone?
 
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Saying there is no way we can win every conference game and saying I don't understand how we dropped in the polls are two different things. I am so tired about hearing about the SEC it makes me sick. With the exception of Arkansas and UT, they play no tough OOC games, then lose to each other and say, "Look, no one can get out of this conference undefeated, so we must be the best." I do think they are probably the best conference this year, but it's not like they are on some other level. And, also, UT only has one "quality" win this year. Georgia somehow snuck back into one of the polls after narrowly defeating the Bulldogs of Miss. St., but they will probably be gone after this week. That means UT has beat the same # of top 25 teams UT has. One
 

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I have not read the police report against Arrington, but I have a rough idea of what the "domestic violence" was. It was simply Arrington pulling his girlfriend out of the car. Apparently, there was a "scratch," whatever that means.


This is by far the ugliest fan comment I've seen since the USC fans attacked the character of the girl their QB raped in the offseason.
 

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First of all, regarding Adrian Arrington, you might be surprised by our reaction. We are not going to allow someone who committed a crime to play on the field. As radical as it may sound to Nd fans, there are other teams out there who care about ethics.

If you want us ND fans to respect Michigan, then maybe dont refer to them as a "team" when you are talking about their ethics. The University of Michigan is a school, not just a football team. Also, do you recall the incident with Marlin Jackson in August of 2003? When he hit an Ann Arbor man in the face with a bottle, and the man had to get 17 stictches. Remember what your team did then? Oh ya, he got suspended for the big games against Central Michigan and Houston, and then conveniently was back for the game against Notre Dame. But I'm sure your "team" wont allow someone who commited a crime to play on the field again.
 

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he's probably talking about rankings because he got asked about it. he's answering the question honestly...
possibly but that's not CW's m.o....in the past whenever he didn't want to comment on something, he just ignored it or repeated the same line about something else indicating he wouldn't answer.
 
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