UFOs, Paranormal, Pseudoscience Thread

[TorontoGold]

YES It DOES.



Good luck hoping more people die.


I'm being serious with that sarcasm.


THE TESTING ISN'T EVEN 10% DONE YET.

I'm not hoping more die, if anything calling out dangerous anti-vaxx pseudoscience is the opposite.

I have yet to see a reputable doctor that you cite, each one is some strip mall con man who's on the brink of losing their license.

I have no idea what your comment about the testing means, more people are going to be tested....therefore???

 

[Irish#1]

Okay, so who has bought and paid the mainstream media?

I have no idea what you are saying.


I'm also not in the mood to debate.


IMHO.
Gather an opinion, that Is educated and non-political.

I'll send ya my phone #. Much easier to debate facts.
We can figure this thing..... out.

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YES It DOES.



Good luck hoping more people die.


I'm being serious with that sarcasm.


THE TESTING ISN'T EVEN 10% DONE YET.

WHY???? PEOPLE ARE WANTING PEOPLE TO DIE!!!!!!! Just so they can say they are right!


Millennials are teaching old ass dumb.............




GODD LUCK OLD KIDS!

Any reason you posted three times without answering my question?

 

[phork]

I have no idea what you are saying.


I'm also not in the mood to debate.


IMHO.
Gather an opinion, that Is educated and non-political.

I'll send ya my phone #. Much easier to debate facts.
We can figure this thing..... out.

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I'm not politicizing this at all. Because politics have nothing to do with it.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm <--- 60K deaths attributed to the flu in that season, SEASON, in 3 months covid has killed 135K... Please refute this somehow. And this is during a world wide lock down.

You bring up stuff, then when people bring up facts you are in no mood to debate. Classic.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Be gentle with this guy. He likes to throw out red rep showers in private retaliations. I've decided to just give up the "discussion," as it seems to really bother him and I'm not into that. Apologies for any added stress given.

 

[Circa]

Be gentle with this guy. He likes to throw out red rep showers in private retaliations. I've decided to just give up the "discussion," as it seems to really bother him and I'm not into that. Apologies for any added stress given.

Hey Mike. I like you and I find your ability to explain things to a point of great interest. If you remember correctly, You negged me about vaccines in another thread when all I was trying to do is create conversation that A LOT of people are now questioning. (Maybe not in this forum, but the nay-sayers are growing exponentially.)

You vilified me as someone that was a "troll" and conspiratorial about microwave ovens... In Which I never did.
I've green repped ya more times than I can count... (obviously, I can't count because I'm just too dumb.). Come on,,,,..... Man.
I also try to be funny at times about broader issues. I'm not sure I'll ever understand the complexities of the generations before me saying, "don't talk Politics or religion".
If you want my honest opinion... That's the exact reason our country is suffering at this point in our country's history today. If everyone for the last 60 years was told not to talk about controversial subjects, and then we end up... upside down over the subjects we are told not to talk about.... Just shoot me now. JMO.

Peace and love my fellow Irish fan friend.

"Can't we all just get along."

 

[Circa]

I'm not politicizing this at all. Because politics have nothing to do with it.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm <--- 60K deaths attributed to the flu in that season, SEASON, in 3 months covid has killed 135K... Please refute this somehow. And this is during a world wide lock down.

You bring up stuff, then when people bring up facts you are in no mood to debate. Classic.

It's not that I'm not in a mood to debate. I honestly don't have a lot of time to go through a bunch of stuff and research.

I might have come at ya a bit sideways and I probably should have put more thought and research into it.
I'll work on it this weekend.

I'm just hoping we see some games in 2 months

 

[phork]

It's not that I'm not in a mood to debate. I honestly don't have a lot of time to go through a bunch of stuff and research.

I might have come at ya a bit sideways and I probably should have put more thought and research into it.
I'll work on it this weekend.

I'm just hoping we see some games in 2 months

More thought is always good. My biggest issue is people that post shit and run, whether its real or not, without research. Do your research before you post so you have a leg to stand on.

 

[Circa]

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[Circa]

So, do I even want to bother reading all this,.... or nah??

1AD... was a confusing part of life. Maybe start there and report back.

 

[NDLS_USMC]

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm <--- 60K deaths attributed to the flu in that season, SEASON, in 3 months covid has killed 135K... Please refute this somehow. And this is during a world wide lock down.

Please know this is a sincere question as I have not had time to read deeply and the statistical models, including data, seem conflicted.

That said, how significant a factor is it that we count a death as a COVID death if the decedent dies of any cause and post-mortem testing shows them to have COVID in their system?

That methodology, btw, is certainly used in Illlinois as dictated by the governor and our public health leads.

I believe this causes us to over count for the deaths we analyze but it would seem there is a correlate of under counting for the many deaths we don't analyze and track.

Thanks in advance any informed responses as I highly respect the knowledge base on IE.

 

[Circa]

Please know this is a sincere question as I have not had time to read deeply and the statistical models, including data, seem conflicted.

That said, how significant a factor is it that we count a death as a COVID death if the decedent dies of any cause and post-mortem testing shows them to have COVID in their system?

That methodology, btw, is certainly used in Illlinois as dictated by the governor and our public health leads.

I believe this causes us to over count for the deaths we analyze but it would seem there is a correlate of under counting for the many deaths we don't analyze and track.

Thanks in advance any informed responses as I highly respect the knowledge base on IE.

You are on to the same direction of reality that many others are questioning also.
I also hope that we can have the knowledge of the IE forum to help one way or another.

Reps.

 

[Circa]

More thought is always good. My biggest issue is people that post shit and run, whether its real or not, without research. Do your research before you post so you have a leg to stand on.

I've spent the last hour looking up different articles from CNN, MSNBC, and FOX. I can't find 1 article that tries to make a statement on dangers that surround many scientists opinions regarding 5G.
I looked into Google and It was on page 17. After numerous tries to find information I found that over 200 scientist have been warning us for years.

If the technology is so great why is it being censored... WHY? Youtube and Google are consistently taking down information related to 5G. If you don't believe that? I had posted a Dr. Judy Malkovits podcast that was posted by Valuetainment 2 months ago that was erased because of terms of service agreements.

As You can see, we all might as well go back to 1995 and windows 95 to read the information ghost we are experiencing.
https://www.actu-environnement.com/media/pdf/news-29640-appel-scientifiques-5g.pdf


Scientists warn of potential serious health effects of 5G
September 11, 2017.

"Over 220 scientists from more than 40 countries have expressed their “serious concerns” regarding
the ubiquitous and increasing exposure to EMF generated by electric and wireless devices already before
the additional 5G roll-out. They refer to the fact that ”numerous recent scientific publications have shown
that EMF affects living organisms at levels well below most international and national guidelines”. Effects
include increased cancer risk, cellular stress, increase in harmful free radicals, genetic damages, structural
and functional changes of the reproductive system, learning and memory deficits, neurological disorders,
and negative impacts on general well-being in humans. Damage goes well beyond the human race, as there
is growing evidence of harmful effects to both plants and animals.", From article above.

I than ask why are others asking me why.... I ask WHY IS 5G being censored?

 

[Circa]

BTW, Why did Dr. Anthony Fauci say in a medical conference meeting in 2017, that we would experience a pandemic in this presidential cycle?
He must be a god.
Plandemic!

 

[Circa]

Here's a small fact checker...
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[TorontoGold]

BTW, Why did Dr. Anthony Fauci say in a medical conference meeting in 2017, that we would experience a pandemic in this presidential cycle?
He must be a god.

He said "no doubt this administration will face similar challenges as the previous admin"

What's nefarious about that?

was Fauci behind COVID1-18???

 

[Circa]

He said "no doubt this administration will face similar challenges as the previous admin"

What's nefarious about that?

was Fauci behind COVID1-18???

OK, He may have said that also.
He most definitely said what I posted earlier. I'm looking up the information atm.

The covid 19 strain is man made... Who made it you ask? IDK. NOT BATS, that's a guaranteed fact. Just watch the mega billionaires explain away....
The genome of the virus doesn't have any factors that enable other viruses to exist naturally.








EDIT; You have officially scared me. Why are you so adamant about changing the information I hear out of a human beings mouth?
I am not here to provide false information. Why are you trying to find things that exist as false?... Especially when you have stated you're from Canada. Loomis?

 

[Circa]

He said "no doubt this administration will face similar challenges as the previous admin"

What's nefarious about that?

was Fauci behind COVID1-18???

I'll drop my mic'...... NOW!

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If anyone finds this as a coincidence... Just kill me now. It's a PLANDEMIC!

I've also heard that the Covid 19 strain was a derivative of UNC Medical(Tarheels). and was taken back to Wuhan for 'studies'..
If Dr. Macfarlane Burnet made a mistake according to Fauci. He made the mistake of not understanding just how evil people can be.

 

[TorontoGold]

OK, He may have said that also.
He most definitely said what I posted earlier. I'm looking up the information atm.

The covid 19 strain is man made... Who made it you ask? IDK. NOT BATS, that's a guaranteed fact. Just watch the mega billionaires explain away....
The genome of the virus doesn't have any factors that enable other viruses to exist naturally.








EDIT; You have officially scared me. Why are you so adamant about changing the information I hear out of a human beings mouth?
I am not here to provide false information. Why are you trying to find things that exist as false?... Especially when you have stated you're from Canada. Loomis?

What is wrong with what Fauci said? Both the previous admins dealt with things like H1N1/SARS etc.

Please post the studies that prove it is a man made virus.

Changing? I'm just asking for proof and explanations behind your reasoning. Loomis? That guy was incredibly stupid

 

[Circa]

What is wrong with what Fauci said? Both the previous admins dealt with things like H1N1/SARS etc.

Please post the studies that prove it is a man made virus.

Changing? I'm just asking for proof and explanations behind your reasoning. Loomis? That guy was incredibly stupid

#1, Loomis wasn't stupid. He had an opinion and it didn't always resonate with the crowd around here. He/her had some good points to think about at times.
#2, OK. Why do you guys consistently ask me to look up information you are privy to?

I just wanna be lazy too.


H1N1 (pig) and the SARS 'severe acute respiratory system virus' didn't accuse politics of changing lives, then telling me what to do, and started to change lives exponentially, for the worst....
The death rate is less than 0.03 percent.
Why are you fighting facts? The CDC changes their website's information daily. Screenshot it, and wait a few days. They change their facts.

 

[Circa]

Okay, so who has bought and paid the mainstream media?

I'm sorry it took so long. If you look up (I'm not) how many people own our information objects. You will find the major 3 Networks/broadcasts are being led by very few oligarchs.
Just do some research.
I'll post what i see when i see it,(I am not looking up the disease any longer today) and hopefully you'll become more aware of the sneaky shit that is becoming woke.

 

[TorontoGold]

#1, Loomis wasn't stupid. He had an opinion and it didn't always resonate with the crowd around here. He/her had some good points to think about at times.
#2, OK. Why do you guys consistently ask me to look up information you are privy to?

I just wanna be lazy too.


H1N1 (pig) and the SARS 'severe acute respiratory system virus' didn't accuse politics of changing lives, then telling me what to do, and started to change lives exponentially, for the worst....
The death rate is less than 0.03 percent.
Why are you fighting facts? The CDC changes their website's information daily. Screenshot it, and wait a few days. They change their facts.

We ask because it goes against what's commonly accepted. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. I can come screaming in here shouting about Bigfoot and I would need to show the "facts".

Fighting facts? I'm still waiting for the "facts" on how COVID is a man made virus.

 

[Irish#1]

I'm sorry it took so long. If you look up (I'm not) how many people own our information objects. You will find the major 3 Networks/broadcasts are being led by very few oligarchs.
Just do some research.
I'll post what i see when i see it,(I am not looking up the disease any longer today) and hopefully you'll become more aware of the sneaky shit that is becoming woke.

Lol....... you keep posting that there is a group of very rich and powerful people controlling the flow of information and news, not me. I ask you who they are and you tell me to look them up? Classic.

 

[Circa]

Lol....... you keep posting that there is a group of very rich and powerful people controlling the flow of information and news, not me. I ask you who they are and you tell me to look them up? Classic.

Ok. If the media we all understand as FOX, CNN, NBC, and CBS are the bearers of truth in your opinion.
I'm sorry!!! that I ever entered a conversation with ya to begin with. I'm being very straightforward and honest with that statement.

 

[Circa]

We ask because it goes against what's commonly accepted. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. I can come screaming in here shouting about Bigfoot and I would need to show the "facts".

Fighting facts? I'm still waiting for the "facts" on how COVID is a man made virus.

Ok. Changing minds and saving the rhetorical state of our understanding is like asking the world today to believe ND will win the ship before I die.... It'll always be misunderstood as something kids never experienced.

If ya wanna be in the blind... Stay there. I really don't have the patience to raise more than my own children....
You do you.

 

[Circa]

We ask because it goes against what's commonly accepted. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. I can come screaming in here shouting about Bigfoot and I would need to show the "facts".

Fighting facts? I'm still waiting for the "facts" on how COVID is a man made virus.

Just keep on watching Don, and Anderson... They'll eventually tell the truth....


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It is very deeply scientific. CNN and the other conglomerates are very paid.
I just listen to podcasts that have scientist that run actual tests on these things, like a virus.


BTW, who are "We"?... You saying 'we' is showing me and everyone that thinks for themselves that you're on board with an agenda.... Good LUCK!

 

[Irish#1]

Ok. If the media we all understand as FOX, CNN, NBC, and CBS are the bearers of truth in your opinion.
I'm sorry!!! that I ever entered a conversation with ya to begin with. I'm being very straightforward and honest with that statement.

You’re making something of a generalization. There are way more media outlets than just those, but we’ll use just those. I’d ask you who are the people (names) of those who control this but I’m guessing you won’t provide those. Regardless, the people at the senior exec level turnover as do those that sit on the BOD’s. Tell me how they manage to keep this “agenda” secret and how do they determine who gets to join this select group when one of them leaves the company? Also, how do they keep the FCC out of this? Payoffs? Heck I would imagine the FCC has far more turnover and more disgruntled people that would more likely be one that would let the word of this conspiracy get out.

 

[Old Man Mike]

This thread was originally supposed to be a thread about interesting and generally fun topics which IE could "retreat" to for some fun exploration about unusual subjects. There is a COVID19 thread for COVID19 debates. There is a Conspiracy thread for conspiracy topics. It would be "nice" if they were used as intended. Mods, maybe we could shift this whole line of ____ to a different thread --- maybe the What are you cooking thread or the Offensive Line thread?

 

[Circa]

You’re making something of a generalization. There are way more media outlets than just those, but we’ll use just those. I’d ask you who are the people (names) of those who control this but I’m guessing you won’t provide those. Regardless, the people at the senior exec level turnover as do those that sit on the BOD’s. Tell me how they manage to keep this “agenda” secret and how do they determine who gets to join this select group when one of them leaves the company? Also, how do they keep the FCC out of this? Payoffs? Heck I would imagine the FCC has far more turnover and more disgruntled people that would more likely be one that would let the word of this conspiracy get out.

You keep using the word conspiracy as a gotcha type of thing.
It's not a conspiracy any longer If the facts back up the reality of the situation.
There are very few news agencies and the few that there are, are run by larger corporations that can dictate money, and the people that want to be successful, regardless of their moral code.

I know Wiki isnt always the place for facts. But let's go down that rabbit hole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_media_in_the_United_States



... If this conversation needs moved to the desert I'm fine with that too... It's a conversation that most people tend to run from tho.. @ OMM.

 

[Irish#1]

This thread was originally supposed to be a thread about interesting and generally fun topics which IE could "retreat" to for some fun exploration about unusual subjects. There is a COVID19 thread for COVID19 debates. There is a Conspiracy thread for conspiracy topics. It would be "nice" if they were used as intended. Mods, maybe we could shift this whole line of ____ to a different thread --- maybe the What are you cooking thread or the Offensive Line thread?

I don't remember the thread, (maybe COVID?), but this discussion did originate in another thread and the mods moved it here.

You keep using the word conspiracy as a gotcha type of thing.
It's not a conspiracy any longer If the facts back up the reality of the situation.
There are very few news agencies and the few that there are, are run by larger corporations that can dictate money, and the people that want to be successful, regardless of their moral code.

I know Wiki isnt always the place for facts. But let's go down that rabbit hole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_media_in_the_United_States



... If this conversation needs moved to the desert I'm fine with that too... It's a conversation that most people tend to run from tho.. @ OMM.

Don't use the word conspiracy. Use whatever word you want to describe this, but please don't keep evading the question. I'm asking you to name the people who are doing this and you haven't provided names. You reply in generalizations or supply links to articles.

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[Circa]

I don't remember the thread, (maybe COVID?), but this discussion did originate in another thread and the mods moved it here.



Don't use the word conspiracy. Use whatever word you want to describe this, but please don't keep evading the question. I'm asking you to name the people who are doing this and you haven't provided names. You reply in generalizations or supply links to articles.

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I created a 5g thread. I guess It hasn't been reported by the media..... It's as If we don't want the truth. Just listen, go to war, rinse and repeat.

Julian Assange. How about that name? Why have the group of 3 and all their conglomerates not correctly reported how he was the only reporter that gave us facts that have never been redacted. He gave us more in a day than our media has investigated in the last 20 years.

Russiagate. Why have they all, except FOX... kinda... not been bankrupt by the lies that this conspiracy that was created by the media in order to demolish a political party? They love Trumps with they're silly out of the real truth accusations. money money money, moooney.. Their money flows when they do these odd things. Shady.

I'm gonna even talk about WMD's and why they still try to cover up how wrong It Is to kill people in an Illegal war over false intelligence.
This story should still be running after 1 war for 9/11 turned into 8 wars over OIL.

I'm really not a Trump fan either. I'm a fan of truth and when I'm lied to I take It personal.
The way the media has bashed him has awakened my interest into why. When Mueller spent 2 years investigating and he can't find 1 thing that he did to hurt us. I feel like vital facts that are unreported are a bit sketchy and under-reported.

As I stated earlier. I understand that a lot of us, Including me, have been listening and watching the same vitriol for years and accepting what they say as something that is real. I am not the foremost intelligence about what, why, how, or what the scooby doo is going on.


Something's not right when they say Political protests get covid but race ones are free from the virus. This Is amazing. They are not straight shooters.....

To actually say names or entities that have the ability to control our propaganda machine would be like asking what color is the day., or to quote the bible,
"Psalm 107:25
For he commanded and raised the stormy wind, which lifted up the waves of the sea".

CNN has admitted they have CIA (EX. and present) working for them... under the tutelage of foreign diplomatic help. Anderson Cooper was a part of an internship and talked about it at a commencement speech in 2013.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2013/10/20/quoted-anderson-cooper-on-his-cia-internship/