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I take from your response you didn’t bother listening to the podcast.

Google Eric Brandstat. He did in fact kill two people and ran two other vehicles off the road making an illegal lane change. He walked away paying less than $100 in fines. His dad who went on to become Trumps ambassador to China was the governor at the time.

The “big” policy changes against China have been largely hot air and as the Intercept points out the “getting tough on China” bullshit quickly goes out the window if it will directly benefit Trumps cronies financially.

Nothing has changed fundamentally. .

OMG...so I check the AP records...1991?! Is that when this thing happened?!

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) _ Gov. Terry Branstad’s eldest son was expected to be charged with illegal possession of alcohol after a crash that damaged a Jeep registered to the governor, an aide said Monday.

Eric Branstad, 17, who was a passenger in the vehicle, was at a juvenile detention center Monday and would be held for 24 hours, the governor’s spokesman, Richard Vohs, said. Police told the governor his son would be charged, Vohs said.

″The governor feels this is very serious,″ he said. ″Eric has some serious problems and the family is going to deal with that.″

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Eric Branstad was convicted of public intoxication last year after he was picked up at an after-school party. In January he pleaded guilty to using a fake identification card to try to buy beer.

In 1991, he was the driver of a car involved in a crash in which two people were killed. He was ticketed for improper lane usage and fined $15.

In the latest accident, on Sunday, police said 15-year-old Anne Reichardt of Clive was driving the Jeep when it went out of control on a curve and hit a utility pole. She was charged with driving without a license and leaving the scene of an accident.

Sixteen unopened cans of beer were found at the accident scene, although the Jeep was gone when officers arrived, said West Des Moines police Sgt. Paul Barrows. Witnesses told police the beer came from the Jeep, Barrows said.

Police said Branstad and one or two other people were in the Jeep. The occupants received minor bumps and scrapes, they said.

Barrows said the case would be referred to juvenile court for a determination on possible charges.

The Republican governor is serving his third term. He has two other children.

Am I missing something here?! Correct me if I'm missing something here, but the accident happened in 199-fucking-1?! Not to mention the guy was a minor when the accident occurred, key word being accident. Wow, I don't even know where to start. Unbelievable. Yup, this is the conservative Hunter Biden! No wonder nobody but the fucking Deconstructed/Intercept brought this up. Unless I'm missing something this has absolutely nothing to do with Trump, this was 25 years before he was even sworn into public office. Again...this is why you stay away from shit journalism. Well done.

Thanks for not wasting my damn time, I made the right choice obviously.
 
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OMG...so I check the AP records...1991?! Is that when this thing happened?!



Am I missing something here?! Correct me if I'm missing something here, but the accident happened in 199-fucking-1?! Not to mention the guy was a minor when the accident occurred, key word being accident. Wow, I don't even know where to start. Unbelievable. Yup, this is the conservative Hunter Biden! No wonder nobody but the fucking Deconstructed/Intercept brought this up. Unless I'm missing something this has absolutely nothing to do with Trump, this was 25 years before he was even sworn into public office. Again...this is why you stay away from shit journalism. Well done.

Thanks for not wasting my damn time, I made the right choice obviously.

Lol so Bluto is gonna need to take an L on that one...woof
 

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I am still flabbergasted here...why raise such a big stink, Bluto? You better be pretty sure of the content if you're going to ask someone to sit through a damn podcast, especially a bad one. Maybe it's just me though.

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OMG...so I check the AP records...1991?! Is that when this thing happened?!

Am I missing something here?! Correct me if I'm missing something here, but the accident happened in 199-fucking-1?! Not to mention the guy was a minor when the accident occurred, key word being accident. Wow, I don't even know where to start. Unbelievable. Yup, this is the conservative Hunter Biden! No wonder nobody but the fucking Deconstructed/Intercept brought this up. Unless I'm missing something this has absolutely nothing to do with Trump, this was 25 years before he was even sworn into public office. Again...this is why you stay away from shit journalism. Well done.

Thanks for not wasting my damn time, I made the right choice obviously.

Bluto is attempting to bright-shiny-object you away from Hunter, comparing the ambassador's son.

It's a very bad/weak whatabout attempt. Now if it was Don Jr who was smoking crack, banging strippers and brother's widow, in car wrecks killing people, getting kicked out out of the service, or sitting on the board of Ukraine companies, taking billions from China, or "holding 10% for the big guy" he might have a point.
 

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Whoa, be patient. We're still sorting through and reading all the posts from your side apologizing and admitting you were wrong about the Russian collusion stuff. We'll get to it when we're finished.

I know y'all are sllllloooooooooow readers in 'Bama, but hot damn, son. Snap to it! (I know you're not actually in Alabama, but the joke just flows better that way.)

LOL. I'm sorry.

See, now here's a properly penitent response. Carry on.
 

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Dude, come on. Trump applied tariffs and started a trade war with them. He's constantly harping on their WTO status. He's the first president since the 70s to speak to Taiwan. He's put all kinds of restrictions on China's tech companies. His constant jabs of China Flu. He ended Hong Kong's preferential treatment. He's increased military in the Taiwan straight.

Obama/Biden/Clinton did dick.

Bruh... what?!

Out of respect for your love of bourbon, I'm going to let you research this a little bit, and retract it if you would like, before I start posting some links and snide comments.
 

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Bruh... what?!

Out of respect for your love of bourbon, I'm going to let you research this a little bit, and retract it if you would like, before I start posting some links and snide comments.


Why would I retract the truth.

In 16, Trump was the first president, or president elect to speak directly to his Taiwanese counterpart (Tsai Ing-wen) since Carter did in 79. Doing so had been frowned upon by the Mainland China, and averse to the One China policy.

Obama's admin then felt the need to say that the US would still uphold the One-China policy, which Trump replied that the US did not have to.
 
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I know y'all are sllllloooooooooow readers in 'Bama, but hot damn, son. Snap to it! (I know you're not actually in Alabama, but the joke just flows better that way.)

See, now here's a properly penitent response. Carry on.

So we're waiting patiently for you to apologize for all the wrongs too?
 

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I take it you didn’t even bother listening to it. Glenn Greenwald who works at the Intercept has been the one reporter who was the most critical of the Russian Investigation I have heard. He also won a Pulitzer Prize. So, yeah comparing The Intercept to OAN is stupid and lazy.

I see some BreitBabies missed the actual point of the podcast Bluto shared. The car crash is really inconsequential to the actual story, it just highlights what a dirtbag the guy is. But, yeah things that happened in 91! Who cares! Lmao the statue of limitations for holding in judgement is what 10/15 years?

The main point is the Chinese relationships that he has and who he works for and with. https://theintercept.com/2020/10/15/eric-branstad-trump-china-ambassador/
 

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I see some BreitBabies missed the actual point of the podcast Bluto shared. The car crash is really inconsequential to the actual story, it just highlights what a dirtbag the guy is. But, yeah things that happened in 91! Who cares! Lmao the statue of limitations for holding in judgement is what 10/15 years?

The main point is the Chinese relationships that he has and who he works for and with. https://theintercept.com/2020/10/15/eric-branstad-trump-china-ambassador/

I translated for everyone already. It's a very weak attempt to bright-and-shiny-thing people away from the Hunter story. And, I'll remind you, it was Bluto who brought up and stressed the "inconsequential" car wreck 20 years ago. When Don Jr is holding 10% back for the big man, let us know.
 

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I see some BreitBabies missed the actual point of the podcast Bluto shared. The car crash is really inconsequential to the actual story, it just highlights what a dirtbag the guy is. But, yeah things that happened in 91! Who cares! Lmao the statue of limitations for holding in judgement is what 10/15 years?

The main point is the Chinese relationships that he has and who he works for and with. https://theintercept.com/2020/10/15/eric-branstad-trump-china-ambassador/

He was trying to connect the guy to Hunter Biden, who made some very bad decisions along with his father, they abused their position of power. The other got into an unfortunate ACCIDENT when he was a MINOR in 1991. Nevermind the fact Trump wouldn't be sworn into public office for another 25 years, so what in the blue hell does it all have to do with him? Nothing, and now you look silly too.
 
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He was trying to connect the guy to Hunter Biden, who made some very bad decisions along with his father, they abused their position of power. The other got into an unfortunate ACCIDENT when he was a MINOR in 1991. Nevermind the fact Trump wouldn't be sworn into public office for another 25 years, so what in the blue hell does it all have to do with him? Nothing, and now you look silly too.

Dude, in my post (skeptical it was read) I mentioned that the real juice of that article is the China connections. The car crash is a red herring, and that's fine if you want to condone it. I'm simply saying there's more to the article involving China rather than some car crash. That's it that's all.
 

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Dude, in my post (skeptical it was read) I mentioned that the real juice of that article is the China connections. The car crash is a red herring, and that's fine if you want to condone it. I'm simply saying there's more to the article involving China rather than some car crash. That's it that's all.

I'm gonna have a real hard time buying anything that podcast or site is saying when they're equating Hunter Biden to some kid's accident in 1991. I made a simple point that the Intercept(And the podcast by association) got low marks for their reporting according to independent sites, and then Bluto made a stink and tried to shame us for not bothering to listen. I'm not wasting my time with that garbage, but if you find some real concrete info then post the transcript and I'll be happy to read it.
 

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Dude, come on. Trump applied tariffs and started a trade war with them. He's constantly harping on their WTO status. He's the first president since the 70s to speak to Taiwan. He's put all kinds of restrictions on China's tech companies. His constant jabs of China Flu. He ended Hong Kong's preferential treatment. He's increased military in the Taiwan straight.

Obama/Biden/Clinton did dick.

Blah, blah...how’s the trade deficit with China? What restrictions? That they have to do business with his buddies and donors? Sure, I'll agree with that and that was the point of the Wall Street Journal Article. Again, nothing but hot air with a topping of Crony Capitalism on the shit sandwich that is the Trump tough guy routine.

https://www.ft.com/content/081e6d25-8d67-4caa-918a-2765a66f0052

“Mr Navarro said the deficit had “peaked” in 2018 at $418bn, as Mr Trump began to impose tariffs, and then fell 18 per cent, or $74bn, in 2019. He added that in the first half of 2020, the deficit had fallen 21 per cent compared with the same period last year, although that was partly due to the impact of the pandemic on global trade.

He refused to comment on the fact that the 2019 deficit was barely unchanged from the figure in 2016“

https://apnews.com/dd93ecd3cafc5df88a8f9f4a61693b07

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. trade deficit surged in July to $63.6 billion, the highest level in 12 years, as imports jumped by a record amount.

The Commerce Department reported that the July deficit, the gap between what America buys and what it sells to foreigners, was 18.9% higher than the June deficit of $53.5 billion. It was the largest monthly deficit since July 2008 during the 2007-2009 recession.

The July deficit increase was driven by a record 10.9% increase in imports which rose to $231.7 billion. Exports were also up but by a smaller 8.1% to $168.1 billion.

When Donald Trump campaigned for president in 2016 he pledged to sharply lower the country’s large trade deficits, especially with China, which for years has been the country with the largest trade surplus with the United States.
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But despite a number of high-profile trade battles and a renegotiation of the North American Free Trade Agreement with Canada and Mexico, America’s trade deficits have remained stubbornly high.

"For July, the deficit with China in goods totaled $31.6 billion, an 11.5% increase from the June imbalance."
 
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OMG...so I check the AP records...1991?! Is that when this thing happened?!



Am I missing something here?! Correct me if I'm missing something here, but the accident happened in 199-fucking-1?! Not to mention the guy was a minor when the accident occurred, key word being accident. Wow, I don't even know where to start. Unbelievable. Yup, this is the conservative Hunter Biden! No wonder nobody but the fucking Deconstructed/Intercept brought this up. Unless I'm missing something this has absolutely nothing to do with Trump, this was 25 years before he was even sworn into public office. Again...this is why you stay away from shit journalism. Well done.

Thanks for not wasting my damn time, I made the right choice obviously.

That was the accident he had after the fatal car crash. So yeah, dude was on a roll in his teens. You need to learn to use the Google machine or stop being disingenuous. Below is an AP article that either you didn't bother to read or couldn't find.

https://apnews.com/article/6dc14502b6ac4335223b2363f3e70c4d

"In 1991, he was the driver of a car involved in a crash in which two people were killed. He was ticketed for improper lane usage and fined $15. "

Again, this demonstrates that this dickhead's reckless enabling by his father dates back a couple of decades and is a pattern that continues to this day. It's a pretty clear cut continuum. "Only the best people".
 
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I translated for everyone already. It's a very weak attempt to bright-and-shiny-thing people away from the Hunter story. And, I'll remind you, it was Bluto who brought up and stressed the "inconsequential" car wreck 20 years ago. When Don Jr is holding 10% back for the big man, let us know.

Hmmmm...interesting choice of words for a car crash that killed two people.
 

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I see some BreitBabies missed the actual point of the podcast Bluto shared. The car crash is really inconsequential to the actual story, it just highlights what a dirtbag the guy is. But, yeah things that happened in 91! Who cares! Lmao the statue of limitations for holding in judgement is what 10/15 years?

The main point is the Chinese relationships that he has and who he works for and with. https://theintercept.com/2020/10/15/eric-branstad-trump-china-ambassador/

It's not the singular incident itself, it's the pattern of behavior enabled by his dad that continues to this day.

Sounds a bit like....Hunter Biden.
 

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That was the accident he had after the fatal car crash. So yeah, dude was on a roll in his teens. You need to learn to use the Google machine or stop being disingenuous. Again, this demonstrates that this dickhead's reckless enabling by his father dates back a couple of decades and is a pattern that continues to this day. It's a pretty clear cut continuum.

https://apnews.com/article/6dc14502b6ac4335223b2363f3e70c4d

"In 1991, he was the driver of a car involved in a crash in which two people were killed. He was ticketed for improper lane usage and fined $15. "

Holy shit...you just linked the same damn AP article I quoted! Did you not even pay attention? You should probably quit digging this hole, it's really stupid. This all happened 25 years before Trump entered public office. Trump didn't abuse his power to reduce the kid's punishment or get him a job then, it has nothing to do with Trump. Zero. The guy was a minor and got in an accident, a costly accident, but he didn't set out to kill those people. Trying to equate his story to Hunter Biden is completely ridiculous, it's a stretch of epic proportions and again...Trump didn't abuse his power to help that kid 25 years ago. Whatever mistakes that kid made a lifetime ago has nothing to do with the Trump campaign today, it's not like Trump abused his power or created a conflict of interest like may have happened with Hunter. The guy fucked up, but how is Trump at fault? Because he gave him a legit job in his campaign?

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Blah, blah...how’s the trade deficit with China? What restrictions? That they have to do business with his buddies and donors? Sure, I'll agree with that and that was the point of the Wall Street Journal Article. Again, nothing but hot air with a topping of Crony Capitalism on the shit sandwich that is the Trump tough guy routine.

https://www.ft.com/content/081e6d25-8d67-4caa-918a-2765a66f0052

“Mr Navarro said the deficit had “peaked” in 2018 at $418bn, as Mr Trump began to impose tariffs, and then fell 18 per cent, or $74bn, in 2019. He added that in the first half of 2020, the deficit had fallen 21 per cent compared with the same period last year, although that was partly due to the impact of the pandemic on global trade.

He refused to comment on the fact that the 2019 deficit was barely unchanged from the figure in 2016“

https://apnews.com/dd93ecd3cafc5df88a8f9f4a61693b07

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. trade deficit surged in July to $63.6 billion, the highest level in 12 years, as imports jumped by a record amount.

The Commerce Department reported that the July deficit, the gap between what America buys and what it sells to foreigners, was 18.9% higher than the June deficit of $53.5 billion. It was the largest monthly deficit since July 2008 during the 2007-2009 recession.

The July deficit increase was driven by a record 10.9% increase in imports which rose to $231.7 billion. Exports were also up but by a smaller 8.1% to $168.1 billion.

When Donald Trump campaigned for president in 2016 he pledged to sharply lower the country’s large trade deficits, especially with China, which for years has been the country with the largest trade surplus with the United States.
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But despite a number of high-profile trade battles and a renegotiation of the North American Free Trade Agreement with Canada and Mexico, America’s trade deficits have remained stubbornly high.

"For July, the deficit with China in goods totaled $31.6 billion, an 11.5% increase from the June imbalance."

LOL... so you ignore absolutely everything in my post. Prove any of it wrong relevant to the original topic. Or did you forget.... And once you go thru the items I listed, please share with me what Clinton or Obama did, or what the "Big Guy" Joe and Hunter will do to change things.

By the way, the trade deficit was going to grow no matter what, and you, and every economist out there knew it would. 4 years can't turn a 20 year ship. Trump was successful in getting some grain and other deals done right before the China Flu happened.
 

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Holy shit...you just linked the same damn AP article I quoted! Did you not even pay attention? You should probably quit digging this hole, it's really stupid. This all happened 25 years before Trump entered public office. Trump didn't abuse his power to reduce the kid's punishment or get him a job then, it has nothing to do with Trump. Zero. The guy was a minor and got in an accident, a costly accident, but he didn't set out to kill those people. Trying to equate his story to Hunter Biden is completely ridiculous, it's a stretch of epic proportions and again...Trump didn't abuse his power to help that kid 25 years ago. Whatever mistakes that kid made a lifetime ago has nothing to do with the Trump campaign today, it's not like Trump abused his power or created a conflict of interest like may have happened with Hunter. The guy fucked up, but how is Trump at fault? Because he gave him a legit job in his campaign?

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Ok. I get it now. You only think being a privileged fuck up who falls upward due to having a dad who is in a position of power and cashes in on that is a problem if it's someone you don't agree with politically.
 
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Yes I did. Please see farther below where I lined it out. Calm down there cowboy. I think you might be losing it lol

This has got to be the dumbest hill I've seen someone die on, it boggles my mind. A 15 year old kid in '91 gets in an unintentional (Is there any other kind?) accident, and he's the conservative Hunter Biden because Trump gives him a campaign position 25 years later? Conflict of interest! Abuse of power! Lock him up! Trump is scum!
 

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Ok. I get it now. You only think being a privileged fuck up who falls upward due having a dad who is in a position of power and cashes in on that is a problem if it's someone you don't agree with politically.

How did Trump abuse his power or create a conflict of interest giving the kid a job? How is any of this a result of Trump's actions or inactions?

Why isn't the mainstream media blowing up over this bombshell?

Because it's really stupid, and only the Intercept would come to such a conclusion. I couldn't find any other sites parroting this story.
 

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I see some BreitBabies missed the actual point of the podcast Bluto shared.

"I'm not gonna even bother to listen to said podcast but I shall opine on it none the less!"

I hope you don't take that as shaming you. Lol.
 
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How did Trump abuse his power or create a conflict of interest giving the kid a job? How is any of this a result of Trump's actions or inactions?

Why isn't the mainstream media blowing up over this bombshell?

Because it's really stupid, and only the Intercept would come to such a conclusion. I couldn't find any other sites parroting this story.

The crux of the Hunter Binden story is abuse of power and conflicts of interest.

Now, the crux of this story is...abuse of power and conflicts of interest vis a vis Terry Branstad (the dad) who was the ambassador to China and his son Eric who benefited from said relationship, just like when he walked away with a $15 fine after killing 2 people. Again there seems to be a pretty clear pattern.

If it makes you feel better here's an article from the Wall Street Journal talking about how the Trump Admin backpedaled on "getting tough" on ZTE once the lobbying firm Eric worked for started representing ZTE. I'm sure it's all a coincidence.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/son-of-u-s-envoy-to-china-used-trump-ties-to-lure-business-1530306803
 
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