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I feel like we've found the one conspiracy Gladiator won't buy.
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Depends on what Alex Jones tells him to believe
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I'm not denying he is in office, just the whole shooting thing seems off
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How about vote tampering executed by Elon Musk and his tech team. In a now 100% Republican-dominated government and Fed departments, there's no way this is ever going to go anywhere, but there's already been voting forensics from 2024 presidential election that show some statistically impossible voting results in areas like Rockland County NY and counties in PA (see https://www.wjbf.com/business/press-releases/accesswire/1033393/retransmission-2024-presidential-and-senate-results-called-into-question-as-lawsuit-advances/ and https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/election-forensics-expert-finds-vote-manipulation-concerns-in-pennsylvania-302483287.html) but even worse, in the name of investigating things and in an effort to ensure the integrity of voting for the midterms, the current DOJ and DHS are asking key swing states: “We would like to test the voting equipment to see if there’s any gaps.” Are you f---ing kidding me. It sounds like that's how Musk and his tech team sabotaged votes in key swing states in the 2024 election, via messing with the voting machines after people in charge of the machines in these states said they needed to make some "de minis" changes to the machines, so no review needed. Musk and his team back doored untraceable access via some kind of USB manipulation; plus it sounds like did some sabotage by leveraging data via some of the bigger 2024 data breaches, and did things like send in mail-in votes for registered Democrats who voted in person, which I believe automatically disqualifies the vote. This all needs to be investigated and still has to be proven, but probably will not go far with one party in full control right now. As the WP article states: Federal law gives the Justice Department the ability to ensure states have procedures in place to remove ineligible voters and otherwise properly maintain their rolls. It does not expressly give the agency the authority to review the voter rolls themselves.
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I'm just going to put this out there. Don't be surprised if Trump is replaced by Vance at some point before this term ends, and maybe sooner via this Epstein files drama.
If you understand who has been backing DJT's run for and election to the Presidency, you wouldn't be shocked. I will just call them collectively the New Right and I believe they were instrumental in creating and funding his campaign and ascendance to the presidency; and in the first 6 months, have been the team behind: The onslaught of executive orders, the massive funding and buildup of ICE, the RAGE dismantling of the branches and departments of the U.S. government, the huge gutting of welfare programs, and massive tax cuts for the rich.
Trump is not that smart and ideological - Sorry, but he's not. He sold his soul to the New Right devil in return for them doing whatever it took to get him elected. And if we're being honest, he's a great frontman for the New Right movement and whipping up Republican congress members and his base and to get things done in the first 6 months.
The New Right have a plan and it was always going to be that Vance takes over at some point, but they likely always believed that they had an option to do this sooner rather than later. DJT has already been if overruled by The New Right in a number of situations over past few months and I believe has been threatened by them to do things more urgently than Trump maybe wanted to do these things, e.g.,
- ICE going into Sanctuary cities strong
- Getting the Big Beautiful Tax Bill passed ASAP
- Bombing Iran's nuclear enrichment site when they said to do that (did you notice how Hegseth, Rubio, and Vance were all standing behind him for his bombing announcement on that Saturday evening? No President has ever done that- Instead, it is always the President addressing the nation alone, whether it's Obama letting the country know that Osama Bin Laden had been killed, or whether it's George W. Bush addressing the nation the evening of the 9/11 tragedy.
Also you can see, increasingly over the past few months, the people running the show are driving the President hard (or maybe even intentionally looking to pressure him into stepping down to clear the way for the transition to Vance as President):
- Elon Musk stages a spat over BBT Bill with the President and suddenly Trump goes hard into LA with ICE and Militia; within days of National Guard and Marines being there, Musk lays off for a bit and states he "went too far"
- Trump says maybe they'll have ICE lay off the farm and hotel workers; the Secretary of Agriculture and Stephen Miller, say no way, ICE will continue to deport all undocumented immigrants
- Trump isn't aware of the Israeli plan to bomb Iran and said Iran should have come to the table; within days, he urgently leaves the G7 Summit and is called back (presumably to be told of the new plan for the U.S. to bomb Iran)
- Hegseth sends missiles to the Ukraine without notifying Trump
- Folks like Texas Gov. Greg Abbott and Speaker Mike Johnson email/text with Elon Musk regularly in private
It appears there may have been a plan for a way to deal with releasing the Epstein Files that would exonerate Trump and implicate others (MAGA enemies) but it sure seems like whoever is controlling this plan behind the scenes decided to change the plan (and maybe to now force Trump out) and now is putting pressure on Trump and Bondi to release the files, again, likely with an endgame in mind; then those two had to retreat and deny the files existence.
Trump is just not in charge these days and the change to Vance will be made eventually, again, maybe sooner rather than later. If you think about it, what more can they get out of Trump and his MAGA rage at this point? The New Right is on its way to locking things down to remake the U.S. as an Autocracy; other than executing their plan to sabotage, delay, or cancel the midterm elections (which they really don't need Trump (just need the Presidential executive order machine to do it), they can keep tightening the grip without him and have Vance driving things moving forward as the new President (and likely Mike Johnson as the new VP - It doesn't get any more New Right and white than that!). Also, Trump is now 79 years old and starting to look and act it. Just like with Biden, your age catches up to you eventually.
This latest Epstein files twist really does appear to have caught Trump and Bondi off guard. I don't know if maybe Elon Musk and the New Right folks have some Epstein dirt (videos?) on Trump or if maybe they're bluffing they do, but one thing is for sure, Elon Musk is stoking the fire against Trump more than anyone, and he seems to be doing it with an endgame in sight. I feel bad for Trump (not that bad really), but his exit will be nothing to be celebrated as that will likely mean that Musk, Miller, and the New Right, now with Vance leading the way as President, feel they have their foundation in place and can then really start cracking down on the U.S. and its citizens. Things will likely become even more brutal under Vance as President.
Lastly, this does show that Musk has great power in the U.S. government and politics at this point, and he plans on using it to bend the will of government (both Federal and State government) and the country' technological efforts and AI industry to his desires. His goal is nothing short of absolute dominion over AI and the infrastructure that it requires. Musk is likely the most dangerous New Right man to our democracy as he combines white supremacy (he's just a little quieter about it), business and technology subterfuge, and massive wealth and power. From his time as a key campaign contributor and leader of Trump's campaign to his 3-4 months as Head of DOGE, he likely: Tampered with voting machines in key swing states; helped engineer the theft of US citizens data from key Fed dept. databases; and especially dismantled departments and contracts that are key to him then securing major satellite contracts with the Fed govt. Musk would essentially sell out the country, any of our former ally countries such as Canada, and anyone (including DJT, and maybe OpenAI's Sam Altman in the future) who gets in his way. He is the ultimate Agent Provocateur and really just an all-around evil human being.
If you understand who has been backing DJT's run for and election to the Presidency, you wouldn't be shocked. I will just call them collectively the New Right and I believe they were instrumental in creating and funding his campaign and ascendance to the presidency; and in the first 6 months, have been the team behind: The onslaught of executive orders, the massive funding and buildup of ICE, the RAGE dismantling of the branches and departments of the U.S. government, the huge gutting of welfare programs, and massive tax cuts for the rich.
Trump is not that smart and ideological - Sorry, but he's not. He sold his soul to the New Right devil in return for them doing whatever it took to get him elected. And if we're being honest, he's a great frontman for the New Right movement and whipping up Republican congress members and his base and to get things done in the first 6 months.
The New Right have a plan and it was always going to be that Vance takes over at some point, but they likely always believed that they had an option to do this sooner rather than later. DJT has already been if overruled by The New Right in a number of situations over past few months and I believe has been threatened by them to do things more urgently than Trump maybe wanted to do these things, e.g.,
- ICE going into Sanctuary cities strong
- Getting the Big Beautiful Tax Bill passed ASAP
- Bombing Iran's nuclear enrichment site when they said to do that (did you notice how Hegseth, Rubio, and Vance were all standing behind him for his bombing announcement on that Saturday evening? No President has ever done that- Instead, it is always the President addressing the nation alone, whether it's Obama letting the country know that Osama Bin Laden had been killed, or whether it's George W. Bush addressing the nation the evening of the 9/11 tragedy.
Also you can see, increasingly over the past few months, the people running the show are driving the President hard (or maybe even intentionally looking to pressure him into stepping down to clear the way for the transition to Vance as President):
- Elon Musk stages a spat over BBT Bill with the President and suddenly Trump goes hard into LA with ICE and Militia; within days of National Guard and Marines being there, Musk lays off for a bit and states he "went too far"
- Trump says maybe they'll have ICE lay off the farm and hotel workers; the Secretary of Agriculture and Stephen Miller, say no way, ICE will continue to deport all undocumented immigrants
- Trump isn't aware of the Israeli plan to bomb Iran and said Iran should have come to the table; within days, he urgently leaves the G7 Summit and is called back (presumably to be told of the new plan for the U.S. to bomb Iran)
- Hegseth sends missiles to the Ukraine without notifying Trump
- Folks like Texas Gov. Greg Abbott and Speaker Mike Johnson email/text with Elon Musk regularly in private
It appears there may have been a plan for a way to deal with releasing the Epstein Files that would exonerate Trump and implicate others (MAGA enemies) but it sure seems like whoever is controlling this plan behind the scenes decided to change the plan (and maybe to now force Trump out) and now is putting pressure on Trump and Bondi to release the files, again, likely with an endgame in mind; then those two had to retreat and deny the files existence.
Trump is just not in charge these days and the change to Vance will be made eventually, again, maybe sooner rather than later. If you think about it, what more can they get out of Trump and his MAGA rage at this point? The New Right is on its way to locking things down to remake the U.S. as an Autocracy; other than executing their plan to sabotage, delay, or cancel the midterm elections (which they really don't need Trump (just need the Presidential executive order machine to do it), they can keep tightening the grip without him and have Vance driving things moving forward as the new President (and likely Mike Johnson as the new VP - It doesn't get any more New Right and white than that!). Also, Trump is now 79 years old and starting to look and act it. Just like with Biden, your age catches up to you eventually.
This latest Epstein files twist really does appear to have caught Trump and Bondi off guard. I don't know if maybe Elon Musk and the New Right folks have some Epstein dirt (videos?) on Trump or if maybe they're bluffing they do, but one thing is for sure, Elon Musk is stoking the fire against Trump more than anyone, and he seems to be doing it with an endgame in sight. I feel bad for Trump (not that bad really), but his exit will be nothing to be celebrated as that will likely mean that Musk, Miller, and the New Right, now with Vance leading the way as President, feel they have their foundation in place and can then really start cracking down on the U.S. and its citizens. Things will likely become even more brutal under Vance as President.
Lastly, this does show that Musk has great power in the U.S. government and politics at this point, and he plans on using it to bend the will of government (both Federal and State government) and the country' technological efforts and AI industry to his desires. His goal is nothing short of absolute dominion over AI and the infrastructure that it requires. Musk is likely the most dangerous New Right man to our democracy as he combines white supremacy (he's just a little quieter about it), business and technology subterfuge, and massive wealth and power. From his time as a key campaign contributor and leader of Trump's campaign to his 3-4 months as Head of DOGE, he likely: Tampered with voting machines in key swing states; helped engineer the theft of US citizens data from key Fed dept. databases; and especially dismantled departments and contracts that are key to him then securing major satellite contracts with the Fed govt. Musk would essentially sell out the country, any of our former ally countries such as Canada, and anyone (including DJT, and maybe OpenAI's Sam Altman in the future) who gets in his way. He is the ultimate Agent Provocateur and really just an all-around evil human being.
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Dang, that's pretty complex. What sites do you frequent?
So, I'm not the brightest. Who is behind the new right? Tech bros? Israel? Combo? Someone else?
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I would say it's a consortium or syndicate that's come together over their main common ground principles of country dominated by ideals such as Heritage, Western Civilization, White Judeo-Christian Nationalism (mainly Christian and White), AI-driven Technology as the future and as the way to economic and technological progress, and as a way to control and exclude (those not wanted (non-whites) or who dissent) the U.S. Citizenry, and that will enable a Techno Theocracy made up of large regional city states (almost a kind of Techno Feudal society) where top Tech and Corporate companies and their execs will be the leader executives of these regions. And related to the more Christian Nationalist component, some end times rapture thrown into the mix. This would be people like Pete Hegseth, Kristi Noem, Russell Vought, and Mike Johnson. You also have the just plain non-white ethnic haters where the poster boy without doubt is Stephen Miller, and maybe the de facto non-govt. security and only 32-year old, Laura Loomer (nasty human being). And of course likely the most influential as they bring most of the New Right together plus they have literally Billions of $s (total $s in the Trillions) are the Uber Rich, Tech Bros. headed up by the Richest of them all - Elon Musk and Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel and many of his tech proteges especially believes in Opus Dei (of the "Work of God" which is an idea that holds that every person is called to holiness and that ordinary life, including work, can be a path to sanctity. And these two, especially Thiel, have really internalized this. Just watch some Thiel interviews - He believes he will be able to integrate AI with the human mind to achieve greatness and immortality. Musk buys into the societal advancement of AI fused with the mind, but is much more power and control hungry. He lusts for AI and worldly greatness. I would also say they have the same ingrained white Christian superiority complex and that they are above the avg. human in intellect and that even if they're not obsessed with it, have no issue with the non whites being deported, enslaved, or - I'm guessing - unalived if it serves the purpose of their power pursuits and human advancement. Thiel is the strange introvert; Musk is the autistic extrovert, but make no mistake are great pals with common purpose. Since they have isolated and twisted ideas about being ordained by God, have a shit loads of $ and technological control over the U.S. (via Musk's Starlink and other stealth technologies, but especially via Thiel's Palantir), and great influence over the country and the tech world, they are the most dangerous minds in this mix. I guess lastly, you can add Curtis Yarvin and his Dark Enlightment (what Commonweal magazine calls authoritarian libertarianism) ideas he has been writing about for about 20 years now to the mix. This basically is the idea of that these city state regions managed by Tech/Corp. execs and an autocratic form of govt held by violent control and headed by a "Monarchy" of sorts, even if this whole thing is reactionary and elitist, are the best way forward for great achievement, progress, and wealth. I don't know as much about Israel but yes, it does apprear the New Right is closely allied with Israel and that Netanyahu ascribes to similar autocratic control ideas where he has authoritarian-like control and is leveraging tech to crack down on the Palestinians (lesser non-Judeo Christian people) to completely destroy them.
Andreessen and Theil. The whole PayPal “mafia”. Zuckerberg to a lesser extent.
The tech bros are a bunch of anti-social lunatics and a waaaay bigger threat to society than say bigoted rednecks in my opinion.
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Peter Thiel is not a member of Opus Dei. Opus Dei despises gay people.
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Yessir. It's a conspiracy until the left wing extreme guys, bypass their own time talking about the letters of the alphabet In whatever way they feel necessary.
If Biden had half the brain and integrity of Trump, the autopen and Fuaci would already be on trial for crimes against humanity.
Autocracy?-
Government by a single person having unlimited power; despotism.
A country or state that is governed by a single person with unlimited power.
Independent or self-derived power; absolute or controlling authority; supremacy.
Similar: supremacy
We have a House of Representatives, and a Senate. When the people vote for a majority, It might seem like a blowout. It's what we Americans voted for last year, and we are only beginning to change the despotism of the last 50+ years.
If this Is the case. It's not Trump inviting the origination of it. Trump is a business man. Capitalism Is his ally. The state itself has pushed and pulled all of our younger generations to fight against the same communist nature we fought in the 1940's-1950's and 60's. Capitalism won, Thank God.
Isn't It fasicm and racism, and the nazi's the left Is so upset with?
In other words. Autocracy isn't even a thought in the main stream publics mind, outside of University scare tactics. Maybe your speaking of an Oligarchy
Is this a beginning of your graduate school thesis?
Easy way for kids to understand the ism's for the youngsters here. I showed my kids this, and suddenly they understood our capitalist society. The best ever.
A little levity to the subject.
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You could go to university to study economics, or if you're like Circa, you can take lessons from Bonnie92148241 on Twitter.
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I know it’s an organization. I think for him it’s more about the concept of the “Work of God,” and not the actual org.
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The challenge is that Thiel helped fund Vance’s election to the Senate, as we know and Vance sees him as a mentor. And Vance likes to drop Curtis Yarvin’s name.Andreessen and Theil. The whole PayPal “mafia”. Zuckerberg to a lesser extent.
The tech bros are a bunch of anti-social lunatics and a waaaay bigger threat to society than say bigoted rednecks in my opinion.
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I'm not buying some kid with no identifiable expert shooting skills is going to strategically hit Trump in the ear from 400 feet. away. He was dropped from his HS shooting team due to poor marksmanship.
Advisor: Donald I have a great idea to give you a huge boost in this race.
Trump: What's that?
Advisor: We found a kid willing to shoot at you during the rally.
Trump: Are you nuts?
Advisor: We'll have him shoot and nip your ear. You'll be fine.
Trump: Oh, okay sounds like a great idea.
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the conspiracy is really farfetched, but does the boy have to be the shooter? He could have been given blanks? What if someone closer was the shooter? Maybe it wasnt a bullet but some piercing device that nicked trumps ear? Does it have to be a perfectly shot bullet or could it be something else? What if someone else killed the guy in the crowd to make it look more realistic? The boy and trump wouldnt even have to be in on it. Just spitballing for fun...
If mossad can plant explosives in walkie talkies/pagers years in advance and pick off top ranking Iranian officials in apartments or safe houses from a thousands miles away, I get the impression intelligence agencies can pull off some wildly unimaginable stuff.
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Autocracy?-
Government by a single person having unlimited power; despotism.
A country or state that is governed by a single person with unlimited power.
Independent or self-derived power; absolute or controlling authority; supremacy.
I could better used Authoritarian or even where the New Right wants to take it (Totalitarianism), but is still a good label as you can see by the Cambridge Dictionary definition: government by a single person or small group that has unlimited power or authority, or a country or society that has this form of government.
Another definition: An autocracy is a system of government in which a single person or party (the autocrat) possesses supreme and absolute power.
In fact, some experts call China an autocracy referring to the Communist Party of China (CCP)'s one-party rule, where political power is concentrated in the hands of the party leadership, primarily the Politburo Standing Committee.
And it fits because the New Right coalition is one that seeks to achieve one-party rule, and I would say this coalition is who really holds the power, not one person like Trump, even though, he's getting railed like he's the king or dictator; the New Right is so much bigger than DJT and as I said, he will be swapped out at some point by Vance.
Btw, that's a key point, we're quickly heading to becoming an Autocracy, but we're not fully there yet
Similar: supremacy
We have a House of Representatives, and a Senate. When the people vote for a majority, It might seem like a blowout. It's what we Americans voted for last year, and we are only beginning to change the despotism of the last 50+ years.
1) "Vote" is a loosely used word here as a lot of data is starting to pop up and lawsuits being initiated that the voting machines were fucked with (likely by Musk and his crew) in the key swing state races; even if we give him the election, it was very close so there is no majority here.
2) We have a House and Senate in name only; at this point, it's pretty much an in-line one-party machine. Yes, to your point, it was "won" (again, I use that term loosely) but based on history, it should be a no-brainer that after a complete owning of the U.S. Presidency and Congress, that the other party is expected to take back the House and maybe even the Senate in the midterms that follow that owning of the Presidential election; but that's where I see danger that the elections will be either: completely tampered with, suppressed / delayed, or plain cancelled - Then you'll know we've arrived at an Autocracy (especially when you throw in the Judicial Branch (maybe soon the Fed) already being under the ruling party's control).
If this Is the case. It's not Trump inviting the origination of it. Trump is a business man. Capitalism Is his ally. The state itself has pushed and pulled all of our younger generations to fight against the same communist nature we fought in the 1940's-1950's and 60's. Capitalism won, Thank God.
Isn't It fasicsm and racism, and the nazi's the left Is so upset with?
In other words. Autocracy isn't even a thought in the main stream publics mind, outside of University scare tactics. Maybe your speaking of an Oligarchy
Is this a beginning of your graduate school thesis?
No, Oligarchy doesn't fit - I did use terms like Techno Theocracy and Tech Oligarchs but it's really that Christian Nationalism and Tech Bros are key parts of this Autocratic New Right coalition, and again, DJT is just they very public bully of the movement and really, just being used to achieve The New Right's agenda; I don't think Trump thinks all that much about White Nationalism or AI, and (def.) not God - He just gladly and willingly took the role as Head of MAGA to help the New Right get into power. Why? Because Trump is a Narcissist who is all about gaining his own kingly power and enriching himself and his family; things have never been better for Trump and family. He's finally been a success at something and made more $ than he ever imagined via this massive grift called the MAGA White House. So of course this is not originating from Trump (well done!); also, he is NOT a successful businessman and has no integrity - He's a supreme Grifter.
And it has nothing to do with university scare tactics or the Left "kooky" terms such as Fascist and Nazis; if you fall into that narrative that Trump and Miller are so great at orchestrating so vocally, you're missing the almost overnight theft of our government and democracy via The New Right's "Butterfly" blitzkrieg.
The Communist threat to the world pretty much died when the Berlin Wall came down. Do you really think Americans, distracted by their mobile phones and TikTok scrolling, and run by the large Social Media and Tech companies, are looking to give all that up to create a Communist America? No frickin' way. Sure, in the last 10-15 years, the Left has wanted a less highly-concentrated society and economy (i.e., more opportunity for prosperity and a happy life). What happened is that Trump, like no other political figure could do, galvanized the left-behind folks (mostly white males and mostly poor and working class) in our increasingly concentrated economy and society by selling the narrative that the crazy lunatic Left have taken things too far, destroyed our government, and want a Socialist, even a Communist, government and society. Spoiler Alert, the real story is that the Uber Rich Tech Bros. became so wealthy and powerful that they decided they know better than the average American citizen and Joe Schmo' and deserve to take over the country and do whatever they think is best for it and its future; and they allied themselves with the highly-organized and Constitutionally-savvy Christian (White) Nationalists and DJT as the Mega MAGA bully and face of this coalition to win (with the help of vote tampering) enough of the American people to give this New Right coalition their inch so they could take their mile of authoritarian power and now do whatever the fuck they want. And now we're going down a road to the Autocratic ruin of our country and democracy.
Easy way for kids to understand the ism's for the youngsters here. I showed my kids this, and suddenly they understood our capitalist society. The best ever.
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