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drayer54 said:
You would bitch about the separation from the mother the other way around. If you don't want to have these sticky positions, don't deliberately flood the country like an idiot.
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I don’t recall personally flooding the country with anything. Obeying the law by allowing citizens to have their day in court is a “sticky position”. That’s idiotic.
 
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Hyundai Is the new Mazda.

Mazda Isn't changing anything. If someone would read their article, the 2nd paragraph says: "But the Japanese luxury automaker said there will be no changes to its overall production volume at the Huntsville plant."

Typical liberal nonsense.
 
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The Mazda plant is only halting production of a certain model specifically destined for the Canadian market. They said overall production would NOT change.

These new commitments that the Trump Admin is touting are probably overblown as well. Likely were in the works before these tariffs were announced. It sure does look good on paper for “bragging rights”

I’ve reached a point where I suspect that both sides are full of crap.
 
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Bluto said:
I don’t recall personally flooding the country with anything. Obeying the law by allowing citizens to have their day in court is a “sticky position”. That’s idiotic.
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Citizens do get their day in court. If you are not a citizen, you get it expedited. Non-citizens, even if you call them “Maryland Man” or whatever, get reviewed and processed. They do not have the right to delay and appeal and backlog the system to try to wait out a GOP admin for the next batch of border-opening idiot democrats.

Proof that it wasn't a border bill holding up progress-
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drayer54 said:
Citizens do get their day in court. If you are not a citizen, you get it expedited. Non-citizens, even if you call them “Maryland Man” or whatever, get reviewed and processed. They do not have the right to delay and appeal and backlog the system to try to wait out a GOP admin for the next batch of border-opening idiot democrats.

Proof that it wasn't a border bill holding up progress-
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It seems like this is a hard concept for you to grasp but border crossings and deporting citizens are two distinct issues.

Again, the particular citizen in the original article and a few others apparently were deported without due process ie having a hearing in front of a judge with a lawyer. So no, they literally did not get their “day in court”.

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Three U.S. citizens, ages 2, 4 and 7, swiftly deported from Louisiana — The Washington Post

The cases have renewed concerns that the Trump administration’s expedited deportations are violating the rights of both citizens and noncitizens.
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“Three U.S. citizen children from two different families were deported with their mothers by Immigration and Customs Enforcement during the early hours of Friday morning. One of them is a 4-year-old with Stage 4 cancer who was deported without medication or the ability to contact their doctors, the family’s lawyer said.”

“U.S. District Judge Terry A. Doughty, a Trump appointee, issued an order expressing his concern that the girl had been deported against her father’s wishes while stressing it is “illegal and unconstitutional” to deport U.S. citizens.”

Deporting minors who are citizens who have brain cancer with blatant disregard for the constitution. It’s not surprising this admin’s approval is now underwater on this issue.
 
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drayer54 said:
Citizens do get their day in court. If you are not a citizen, you get it expedited. Non-citizens, even if you call them “Maryland Man” or whatever, get reviewed and processed. They do not have the right to delay and appeal and backlog the system to try to wait out a GOP admin for the next batch of border-opening idiot democrats.

Proof that it wasn't a border bill holding up progress-
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This looks like a graph of a post-covid immigrant surge that started falling in early 2024... a year before Trump.
 
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BilboBaggins said:
This looks like a graph of a post-covid immigrant surge that started falling in early 2024... a year before Trump.
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You mean close to the election when they were getting roasted on polling for immigration? Again, proof the bipartisan bill talking point was an excuse for democrat failure.
 
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drayer54 said:
You mean close to the election when they were getting roasted on polling for immigration? Again, proof the bipartisan bill talking point was an excuse for democrat failure.
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Correlation and causation are two different things.

But yes it's generally agreed the Biden administration was slow to react to the immigration crisis at the border. That doesn't explain Republican positions when there isn't a post-covid immigrant surge, or justify the cruelty, or excuse the politics of torpedoing a bipartisan immigration bill for election politics.
 
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BilboBaggins said:
Correlation and causation are two different things.

But yes it's generally agreed the Biden administration was slow to react to the immigration crisis at the border. That doesn't explain Republican positions when there isn't a post-covid immigrant surge, or justify the cruelty, or excuse the politics of torpedoing a bipartisan immigration bill for election politics.
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Slow to react is an understatement.
 
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BilboBaggins said:
Correlation and causation are two different things.

But yes it's generally agreed the Biden administration was slow to react to the immigration crisis at the border. That doesn't explain Republican positions when there isn't a post-covid immigrant surge, or justify the cruelty, or excuse the politics of torpedoing a bipartisan immigration bill for election politics.
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Do you seriously believe this, or just think you can get us to believe it? He wasn't slow to react. He encouraged it. He incentivized it. The massive influx of illegals was a feature, not a bug. There wasn't some sudden influx and he failed to recognize and react to it in a timely manner. It was a planned and encouraged invasion intended to shift the demographics of the nation in a way believed to be favorable to his party. Get out of here with that "slow to react" nonsense.
 
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Bluto said:
This and that dipshit Bishops drunken, nonsensical rant are a chefs kiss. Lol.
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Have you noticed that every time someone disagrees with you or posts something you don't like, but can't refute with facts or logic, your fallback response is to call them a moron, a dipshit, an idiot, and etc. I'm not insulted. I'm happy to know that you realize you're on the wrong side of yet another issue and this is all you have left, so thanks!

Oh, and btw, Biden absolutely positively 100% encouraged and incentivized the invasion of millions of illegal immigrants during his administration.
 
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What’s crazy is that there is still so much screeching about things that don’t really matter… like secondary and tertiary concerns over foreign policy, domestic policy, etc.

The bottom line is that anyone with a brain or eyeballs see that Trump is driving the country over a financial cliff with no foreseeable payoff in “manufacturing” … in fact, manufacturing is about to tank because he is taxing raw materials and other inputs used in manufacturing.

We are going to start seeing stuff like this everywhere over the next two months:




And then Republicans are going to get blown out in the 2026 midterms and nothing anyone wanted accomplished will ever get done. All for the sake of tariffs that no one wants and that will explode the debt while creating no manufacturing jobs.
 
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BilboBaggins said:
Correlation and causation are two different things.

But yes it's generally agreed the Biden administration was slow to react to the immigration crisis at the border. That doesn't explain Republican positions when there isn't a post-covid immigrant surge, or justify the cruelty, or excuse the politics of torpedoing a bipartisan immigration bill for election politics.
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Biden wasn't slow to react to the border, he only reacted to polling. Biden's policies opened the floodgates. They made no effort to halt it. They took steps to keep it open and pursued litigation against Texas for trying to control its own border. The only thing they listened to was their own desire to hold power and move it off the polling list because people were pissed at the sight of unverified migrants pouring into our country and being flown into our country. This has led to people being victims of crime at the hand of gang members and international criminals, which is cruel to some, ignored by the left. The border bill was an attempt to curb the ineptitude of the Biden administration, but the reality was that he never needed it. Republicans pointed it out at the time and Trump proved it to be a completely braindead left-wing talking point.

Action has been taken to address the cruelty of the Biden administration.
 
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