Trump Presidency Round 2

Irish#1

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If he rejects it, it would be because it's not in Ukraine's best interests. Remember the Budapest Memorandum didn't work out great for them.
Don’t get me wrong, they can do what they want. I just think Zelenskyy shouldn’t have been so butt hurt and participated. At least he’d have a voice. This way I don’t think he’s going to get the results he wants. He could end up depending on the rest of Europe to supply the aid and they haven’t stepped up like we have.
 

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Don’t get me wrong, they can do what they want. I just think Zelenskyy shouldn’t have been so butt hurt and participated. At least he’d have a voice. This way I don’t think he’s going to get the results he wants. He could end up depending on the rest of Europe to supply the aid and they haven’t stepped up like we have.
He wasn't invited.

That's like your neighbor that you hate breaks into your house and sets up shop in a guest room of yours. Then some random from another city negotiates peace between you two and you have no say in it and they are offering your neighbor the guest room and you have no option to get it back.
 

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He wasn't invited.

That's like your neighbor that you hate breaks into your house and sets up shop in a guest room of yours. Then some random from another city negotiates peace between you two and you have no say in it and they are offering your neighbor the guest room and you have no option to get it back.
Some random? He’s the leader of the country that has spend billions to save said house. At this point the US needs to just put a lien on Ukraine and/or evict… “random” lol.
 

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He wasn't invited.

That's like your neighbor that you hate breaks into your house and sets up shop in a guest room of yours. Then some random from another city negotiates peace between you two and you have no say in it and they are offering your neighbor the guest room and you have no option to get it back.
If that random pays my mortgage, utilities, and gas and is going to be the one looking over my home after the deal, its a little different.
 

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Lol I did read, it's the same sob story about how "conservatives were silenced" but literally no conservatives were silenced for being conservative. Still waiting to see all those people that got banned for arguing for lower taxes, smaller government, and free markets.

Counter your points? I showed you that Elon's twitter is working closer with authoritarian governments, you pissed your pants because it wasn't the US because you can't comprehend there's a world that exists outside of the midwest. Oh, but then I posted how Elon doesn't want to publish content moderation info but that doesn't matter because we're all supposed to be super duper upset that some people got banned 4 years ago and the guy who owns Twitter now is sitting in the WH daily. Idk I guess the same people who had a stroke that Jen Psaki got a job at MSNBC are just suffering from dementia when the owner of twitter is bf's with the president.

My god, when does the crying stop? You guys own twitter now! You won! lol
Conservatives were silenced/ removed and big tech was doing all it could for the Biden admin pre Musk. This is not opinion. Twitter and facebook folk have admitted it.

No crying here. That's all you. Only thing I pointed out was that the crazy nuts on the left went to bluesky and no one cares.
 

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He wasn't invited.

That's like your neighbor that you hate breaks into your house and sets up shop in a guest room of yours. Then some random from another city negotiates peace between you two and you have no say in it and they are offering your neighbor the guest room and you have no option to get it back.
Feels like you're arguing just to argue when I agree he should be there. Did you misconstrue what I originally posted what would happen with what I would like to see happen? I agree he wasn't invited, but before they set the date, he said he wasn't going to attend because Trump didn't call him first. If he's not going to attend, why invite him?

For clarification:
1. I would love to see Russia get their ass kicked.
2. I would love to see Ukraine maintain all the land they had prior to Russia invading.
3. Zelenskyy has all the right to refuse anything that is presented to him.

What I see happening, not what I want to happen:
1. A settlement between Trump and Putin will be reached and provided to Zelenskyy.
2. The settlement will allow Russia to keep most of what they currently occupy.
3. The settlement will include Russia treating Ukraine as an independent country and not part of Russia.
4. The agreement will call for Russia to cease any further actions for expanding in any country.
5. The settlement will include the U.S. providing more aid the Ukraine.

What Zelenskyy can do:
1. Reject the settlement in its entirety. (probably lose future aid from the U.S. and hope the rest of Europe will step in).
2. Counter the settlement with his own.
3. Accept the settlement and continue to receive aid from the U.S.
 

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When I clicked on the Twitter post, it took me to Twitter and said this page doesn't exist. I did find this post that basically says the post was pure bullshit. I'm assuming that's why the post was deleted.


Good catch. You have to wonder if a preemptive pardon would hold up if challenged.
 

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Especially when you consider the president was mentally infirm and had no fucking idea what he was signing
 

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Hope he pays, not a great look for tax evasion


lol it's complete political theatre, he has his accounting team receive his notices from the IRS. No one at that wealth level is handling audit responses themselves.

Maybe it's for the rape payoff not being classified correctly?
 

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Lol. His accountant couldn’t have handed him that notice. Lol. Ur warped
 

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Lol. His accountant couldn’t have handed him that notice. Lol. Ur warped
I know you're still likely in school, but his accountant would let him knows he being audited and he have to request it from them so that he could do this stunt.

Less time looking at meme tweets with grandpa.
 

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I know you're still likely in school, but his accountant would let him knows he being audited and he have to request it from them so that he could do this stunt.

Less time looking at meme tweets with grandpa.
Sounds like a hard process
 

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I know you're still likely in school, but his accountant would let him knows he being audited and he have to request it from them so that he could do this stunt.

Less time looking at meme tweets with grandpa.
I’ve got an 80 yr old Canuck trying to sell me positions on American politics. U can’t make this stuff up.
 

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I’ve got an 80 yr old Canuck trying to sell me positions on American politics. U can’t make this stuff up.
80? I'm probably the second youngest person on these threads next to you, early 30s so quite a bit older than you but not 80.
 

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80? I'm probably the second youngest person on these threads next to you, early 30s so quite a bit older than you but not 80.

You know what the kids say, never trust anyone over 30. You're old to them. So am I 😞
 

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It's Trumps fault. lol Doesn't NBC check these things out before, err never mind.

 

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It's Trumps fault. lol Doesn't NBC check these things out before, err never mind.


LOL. Just waiting for someone in the media to confront the press secretary and demand accountability on why illegal immigrant detainment has dropped so significantly. Those numbers tell me that the Biden Admin was much better at detaining illegals than the Trump admin blah blah blah. LOL. I'm not even joking. At some point some idiot will do it.
 

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LOL. Just waiting for someone in the media to confront the press secretary and demand accountability on why illegal immigrant detainment has dropped so significantly. Those numbers tell me that the Biden Admin was much better at detaining illegals than the Trump admin blah blah blah. LOL. I'm not even joking. At some point some idiot will do it.

I would imagine that whoever is tipping off these illegals, as well as AOC and others hosting webinars instructing them and advocacy groups how to avoid apprehension is slowing things down a bit.

Isn't tipping off gang members so that they can stay to kill and extort others a wonderful thing?
 
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