Trump Presidency Round 2

[ColoradoIrish]

I already did. I showed where the Dow was much lower under Biden and none of you cried and whined and went on and on and on about it every day. In fact, none of you said a word. You're all hypocrites. You couldn't care less about any of this stuff when it's your side engaging in racism, corruption, making bad economic or foreign policy decisions, or anything else. You just get concerned about it when you can use it to gripe about the other side. You're not serious and not to be taken seriously.

Because the price being lower isn't the same as a historical 2 day drop. For someone who is a doctor I'd expect you to understand the difference between the two.

You have no idea what my stance is on any matter. You think I'm some raging liberal because I'm trans. But guess what people aren't monoliths and I don't treat them us such. I'm vehemently anti trump, but besides that you know nothing about any of my political leanings

 

[TorontoGold]

I understand the market quite well. I'm just pointing out that you guys aren't serious about any of this stuff. You're having meltdowns day after day about stuff you were totally OK with or at least silent about when it happened under a Dem. You're hypocrites. You don't care about racism, the economy, foreign affairs, jobs, women's rights, or anything else. It's all just something for you to gripe about when it's a Republican and go totally deaf, dumb and blind about when it's a Dem. It's why we don't take any of you seriously.

You couldn’t even find a recent chart of the Dow. A kid studying finance in school right now would know that they can just go to Google and grab the chart in 10 seconds. It’s embarrassing.

Let’s assume you possess the grade school knowledge of having the ability of finding the correct Dow chart. Why is what Biden did worse than Trump? At least humorous with some sort of response. I don’t think anyone expects the board punching bag to actually respond, but we’re all here! LOL

 

[calvegas04]

 

[BuaConstrictor]

A kid studying finance in school

They teach finance in 2nd grade? I mean...how much work is it to Google DJIA?

You don't even need to spell it!

 

[Bishop2b5]

Because the price being lower isn't the same as a historical 2 day drop. For someone who is a doctor I'd expect you to understand the difference between the two.

You have no idea what my stance is on any matter. You think I'm some raging liberal because I'm trans. But guess what people aren't monoliths and I don't treat them us such. I'm vehemently anti trump, but besides that you know nothing about any of my political leanings

I understand the difference. My point is the hypocrisy of whining constantly about everything about one side and being silent about anything wrong on the other. As for your political views, I only know what you post and what side of issues you take in the discussions here.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

I understand the difference.

You couldn’t even find a recent chart of the Dow. A kid studying finance in school right now would know that they can just go to Google and grab the chart in 10 seconds. It’s embarrassing.

Let’s assume you possess the grade school knowledge of having the ability of finding the correct Dow chart. Why is what Biden did worse than Trump? At least humorous with some sort of response. I don’t think anyone expects the board punching bag to actually respond, but we’re all here! LOL

Pop quiz: What were those drops due to? Were those events that caused those drops seen to be momentary blips on the radar or the adjustment to radical shifts in US economic policy that Biden imposed? Did other countries respond to these drops? How? Did JP Morgan et al come out and predict a 60% likelihood of a recession during those times?

If you think people are freaking out simply because the Dow is falling (and the NASDAQ, S&P et al) then you truly don't understand the situation. People are pointing to WHY the Dow is tanking........and it's a symptom and a result of specific economic policies that Trump has implemented, cratering the economy the likes of which we have not seen. It's one thing to deal with economic issues as a President that just happen to occur during your term (.com bubble recession in '01, housing in '08, hell COVID in 2020, wars, and other drops that occur as a natural result of market factors) it's another to see the market crater in real time due to a president announcing radical (and idiotic) economic policy that was produced by chatGPT and a bad math equation.

Since you're not worried, explain why. If you can. This isn't a typical market condition drop. What policy or policies will Trump enact or repeal to fix this? If he keeps the tariffs on, how will the market recover?This isn't a two day issue. The tariffs are still going to be there Monday...and more are coming....What happens when the EU, Britain, et al respond(and subsequent tariffs that have been announced by aren't in effect yet go into effect)? What is the long term market projection of this if the policies don't change?..because Trump says they aren't changing. Lastly, do you think these tariffs are good policy? Why or why not?....BECAUSE THAT'S THE ACTUAL POINT OF ALL OF THIS DISCUSSION OF THE DOW.

Or was all of this not explained in the Facebook post that you pulled your picture from?

Oh lastly, should we also take by your chart that Biden "fixed" the issue and then had the economy on an upward trajectory and we did in fact have a great economy under him?



You're arguing that what we are seeing is normal or "happens all the time." It doesn't.

 

[Bishop2b5]

You couldn’t even find a recent chart of the Dow. A kid studying finance in school right now would know that they can just go to Google and grab the chart in 10 seconds. It’s embarrassing.

Let’s assume you possess the grade school knowledge of having the ability of finding the correct Dow chart. Why is what Biden did worse than Trump? At least humorous with some sort of response. I don’t think anyone expects the board punching bag to actually respond, but we’re all here! LOL

You're too dishonest and unoriginal to converse with. No matter what anyone says to you, you'll change it and answer something else. You're the king of such strawman arguing because you're weak, both in character and intellectually. You couldn't argue that 2+2=4 without spinning it and misrepresenting something. BTW, it's "humor us" not "humorous."

 

[BuaConstrictor]

You're too dishonest and unoriginal to converse with. No matter what anyone says to you, you'll change it and answer something else. You're the king of such strawman arguing because you're weak, both in character and intellectually. You couldn't argue that 2+2=4 without spinning it and misrepresenting something. BTW, it's "humor us" not "humorous."

Pop quiz: What were those drops due to? Were those events that caused those drops seen to be momentary blips on the radar or the adjustment to radical shifts in US economic policy that Biden imposed? Did other countries respond to these drops? How? Did JP Morgan et al come out and predict a 60% likelihood of a recession during those times?

If you think people are freaking out simply because the Dow is falling (and the NASDAQ, S&P et al) then you truly don't understand the situation. People are pointing to WHY the Dow is tanking........and it's a symptom and a result of specific economic policies that Trump has implemented, cratering the economy the likes of which we have not seen. It's one thing to deal with economic issues as a President that just happen to occur during your term (.com bubble recession in '01, housing in '08, hell COVID in 2020, wars, and other drops that occur as a natural result of market factors) it's another to see the market crater in real time due to a president announcing radical (and idiotic) economic policy that was produced by chatGPT and a bad math equation.

Since you're not worried, explain why. If you can. This isn't a typical market condition drop. What policy or policies will Trump enact or repeal to fix this? If he keeps the tariffs on, how will the market recover?This isn't a two day issue. The tariffs are still going to be there Monday...and more are coming....What happens when the EU, Britain, et al respond(and subsequent tariffs that have been announced by aren't in effect yet go into effect)? What is the long term market projection of this if the policies don't change?..because Trump says they aren't changing. Lastly, do you think these tariffs are good policy? Why or why not?....BECAUSE THAT'S THE ACTUAL POINT OF ALL OF THIS DISCUSSION OF THE DOW.

Or was all of this not explained in the Facebook post that you pulled your picture from?

Oh lastly, should we also take by your chart that Biden "fixed" the issue and then had the economy on an upward trajectory and we did in fact have a great economy under him?



You're arguing that what we are seeing is normal or "happens all the time." It doesn't.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

I understand the difference. My point is the hypocrisy of whining constantly about everything about one side and being silent about anything wrong on the other. As for your political views, I only know what you post and what side of issues you take in the discussions here.

If you understand the difference, you would understand there is no hypocrisy because this has never happened before. If you want to know my political views summed as concisely as can be done on a message board are this:

I fully believe in gun rights for individuals, I fully understand the historical significance of them in the history of our country, and as a minority I fully believe they're more important to my community and other minority communities.

I believe in a small over reaching federal government. I believe most things should be left to states and then at an even more macro level down to cities and individual communities.

I believe there are basic things the federal government should provide, like national security, facilitate trade amongst states and other countries.

I also believe religion of any kind should be no where near government, and it's absolutely shouldn't dictate any laws or morality for the country as a whole.

I believe medical decisions should be amongst the patient and doctor, and if the patient is a minor the parents as well. I don't think the government should be involved at all or limit what options are available.

Everything I believe is vehemently anti trump. That's what I believe in and that's where I stand politically in case you were curious

 

[Bishop2b5]

If you understand the difference, you would understand there is no hypocrisy because this has never happened before. If you want to know my political views summed as concisely as can be done on a message board are this:

I fully believe in gun rights for individuals, I fully understand the historical significance of them in the history of our country, and as a minority I fully believe they're more important to my community and other minority communities.

I believe in a small over reaching federal government. I believe most things should be left to states and then at an even more macro level down to cities and individual communities.

I believe there are basic things the federal government should provide, like national security, facilitate trade amongst states and other countries.

I also believe religion of any kind should be no where near government, and it's absolutely shouldn't dictate any laws or morality for the country as a whole.

I believe medical decisions should be amongst the patient and doctor, and if the patient is a minor the parents as well. I don't think the government should be involved at all or limit what options are available.

Everything I believe is vehemently anti trump. That's what I believe in and that's where I stand politically in case you were curious

I would agree with you on most of those things, though we probably differ some on the details or definitions and some of the implementation.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

I would agree with you on most of those things, though we probably differ some on the details or definitions and some of the implementation.

Ya no shit that's what I've been saying since I started partaking in conversations over here. But you can't fathom someone like me holding the views as you and also being anti Trump

 

[ab2cmiller]

The White House cited these economists to justify its tariffs. They aren't thrilled.​

The researchers took issue with some shortcuts and questionable math by the Trump administration.​

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/the-white-house-cited-these-economists-to-justify-its-tariffs-they-arent-thrilled-193615537.html

 

[GATTACA!]

Imagine Biden using ChatGPT to come up with the dumbest half baked economic policy imaginable, which lead to an immediate drop in the stock market worse than anything since 2008 lol.

Articles of impeachment would already be written.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Imagine Biden using ChatGPT to come up with the dumbest half baked economic policy imaginable, which lead to an immediate drop in the stock market worse than anything since 2008 lol.

Articles of impeachment would already be written.

Makes you wonder who's even running the country. I hear Trump doesn't even know what he's signing and using autopen to assign everything.

 

[TorontoGold]

You're too dishonest and unoriginal to converse with. No matter what anyone says to you, you'll change it and answer something else. You're the king of such strawman arguing because you're weak, both in character and intellectually. You couldn't argue that 2+2=4 without spinning it and misrepresenting something. BTW, it's "humor us" not "humorous."

Change it? You don't have an opinion for me to even attempt to "spin". You haven't responded to anyone on the differences between why the market dropped in 2022 and the differences we've seen this month.

Be the big man that you so desperately want everyone to think you are. There's a reason you are board punching bag. You can't respond to anyone with any sort of intelligent response, just blabbering about how smart you are and how dumb everyone else is.

I'm weak in character and intellect? I respond when people challenge my opinions, I don't cower away and hide like a coward. Intellect? I don't lie on the internet about my qualifications, I think I've demonstrated my knowledge of finance/tax/accounting pretty clearly, you want everyone to believe you're some sort of "doctor" but can't even get the right picture of the Dow? Really? A medical professional would be able to use Google. Hell, even the greeter at the hospital could use Google. You wouldn't be such an embarrassment if you just admitted when you were wrong or messed up. Watch this - yes, I didn't proof read my previous message and used the humorous when I should have said humor us, I was wrong.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Change it? You don't have an opinion for me to even attempt to "spin". You haven't responded to anyone on the differences between why the market dropped in 2022 and the differences we've seen this month.

Be the big man that you so desperately want everyone to think you are. There's a reason you are board punching bag. You can't respond to anyone with any sort of intelligent response, just blabbering about how smart you are and how dumb everyone else is.

I'm weak in character and intellect? I respond when people challenge my opinions, I don't cower away and hide like a coward. Intellect? I don't lie on the internet about my qualifications, I think I've demonstrated my knowledge of finance/tax/accounting pretty clearly, you want everyone to believe you're some sort of "doctor" but can't even get the right picture of the Dow? Really? A medical professional would be able to use Google. Hell, even the greeter at the hospital could use Google. You wouldn't be such an embarrassment if you just admitted when you were wrong or messed up. Watch this - yes, I didn't proof read my previous message and used the humorous when I should have said humor us, I was wrong.

You're trying too hard to be clever and pump yourself up. Responding to everything said to you isn't much to brag about when your responses are always dishonest and you misrepresent what the other person says to you. You're the king of strawman arguing and spinning the "Toronto Vortex" every time someone puts you in a difficult intellectual position. When you can debate and discuss honestly, let me know. Until then, you're just an unoriginal, childish, dishonest bore with a headful of bad ideas.

 

[TorontoGold]

You're trying too hard to be clever and pump yourself up. Responding to everything said to you isn't much to brag about when your responses are always dishonest and you misrepresent what the other person says to you. You're the king of strawman arguing and spinning the "Toronto Vortex" every time someone puts you in a difficult intellectual position. When you can debate and discuss honestly, let me know. Until then, you're just an unoriginal, childish, dishonest bore with a headful of bad ideas.

Pump myself up? lol I'm not the guy faking my credentials on the internet because I'm insecure.

So I'll take it you're not going to respond to anyone ever? You can't even say why you posted that chart? You can't explain why 2022 was just as bad or worse than now? These are very basic ideas that anyone who can even just pay for parking at a hospital could explain.

 

[calvegas04]

An educated leader

 

[IrishLax]

The line is way off where it actually is, cool meme tho.

 

[IrishLax]

 

[IrishLax]

 

[Irish#1]

Stock Market is literally no different than a betting line. Both react and speculate based upon various pieces of news that are publicized. Sometimes the speculation ends up being right and sometimes wrong. But in each area, it's reasonable to speculate.

Oh I get it and don’t disagree. I’m just saying I would like just for once for the market to react once there are results to base it on.

 

[GATTACA!]

Oh I get it and don’t disagree. I’m just saying I would like just for once for the market to react once there are results to base it on.

Everything is about to become more expensive. How else would you imagine the market would react once the effects of this are felt?

 

[TorontoGold]

Oh I get it and don’t disagree. I’m just saying I would like just for once for the market to react once there are results to base it on.

For once? The market always reacts to results, literally all the time. What do you think the markets are missing that you can see?

 

[IrishLax]

 

[Sea Turtle]

When people panic, I get greedy - Warren Buffet

Now is the time to buy.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

You're trying too hard to be clever and pump yourself up. Responding to everything said to you isn't much to brag about when your responses are always dishonest and you misrepresent what the other person says to you. You're the king of strawman arguing and spinning the "Toronto Vortex" every time someone puts you in a difficult intellectual position. When you can debate and discuss honestly, let me know. Until then, you're just an unoriginal, childish, dishonest bore with a headful of bad ideas.

Pop quiz: What were those drops due to? Were those events that caused those drops seen to be momentary blips on the radar or the adjustment to radical shifts in US economic policy that Biden imposed? Did other countries respond to these drops? How? Did JP Morgan et al come out and predict a 60% likelihood of a recession during those times?

If you think people are freaking out simply because the Dow is falling (and the NASDAQ, S&P et al) then you truly don't understand the situation. People are pointing to WHY the Dow is tanking........and it's a symptom and a result of specific economic policies that Trump has implemented, cratering the economy the likes of which we have not seen. It's one thing to deal with economic issues as a President that just happen to occur during your term (.com bubble recession in '01, housing in '08, hell COVID in 2020, wars, and other drops that occur as a natural result of market factors) it's another to see the market crater in real time due to a president announcing radical (and idiotic) economic policy that was produced by chatGPT and a bad math equation.

Since you're not worried, explain why. If you can. This isn't a typical market condition drop. What policy or policies will Trump enact or repeal to fix this? If he keeps the tariffs on, how will the market recover?This isn't a two day issue. The tariffs are still going to be there Monday...and more are coming....What happens when the EU, Britain, et al respond(and subsequent tariffs that have been announced by aren't in effect yet go into effect)? What is the long term market projection of this if the policies don't change?..because Trump says they aren't changing. Lastly, do you think these tariffs are good policy? Why or why not?....BECAUSE THAT'S THE ACTUAL POINT OF ALL OF THIS DISCUSSION OF THE DOW.

Or was all of this not explained in the Facebook post that you pulled your picture from?

Oh lastly, should we also take by your chart that Biden "fixed" the issue and then had the economy on an upward trajectory and we did in fact have a great economy under him?



You're arguing that what we are seeing is normal or "happens all the time." It doesn't.

 

[calvegas04]

Trump better figure things out fast or these are going to keep growing. Don't mess with the people's savings

 

[IrishLax]

 

[BilboBaggins]

Lick those boots harder, you missed a spot.