Trump awards Lou Holtz with medal of Freedom

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I have zero issue with Holtz as a person/entity whatever. By all accounts a great man and a great leader.
And currently reading through a list of the winners, who cares? Clearly this is mostly about the whims of the current president. Richard Petty has one, why not Lou?
 

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That this is a divisive thread is all you need to know about the state of our country in 2020. The only person that should care about this award is the recipient. Do we really need to list all the celebs & VIPs who have received this for doing no more or even less than Holtz did for the county?

I assume everyone on this thread is an Irish fan and is well aware of former ND player Alan Page? Not only is he in the CFB & NFL HoF as one of the greatest DL of all time... he was an associate justice on the Minnesota Supreme Court. Trump awarded him the same award & I’d be willing to bet Page is not a Trump fan.

Get over it and let the old man enjoy his life.

https://und.com/football-page-receives-medal-of-freedom/

Page was a very deserving recipient, agreed. Absurd for the University to withhold kudos for Holtz - just like ACB this is a good thing for the University!
 

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Interesting that not a single Notre Dame Football/Athletics web or social media page congratulated Holtz on his medal. That says a lot

Maybe they saw the blowback that the Girl Scouts of America received for simply honoring ACB as the latest of many SCOTUS nominees to be confirmed to the Supreme Court who also happened to be female. That’s how sensitive a segment of the population is today.
 

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Maybe they saw the blowback that the Girl Scouts of America received for simply honoring ACB as the latest of many SCOTUS nominees to be confirmed to the Supreme Court who also happened to be female. That’s how sensitive a segment of the population is today.

They had no problem promoting the players BLM activism and obviously didn't care about the blowback from that though.
 

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Maybe they saw the blowback that the Girl Scouts of America received for simply honoring ACB as the latest of many SCOTUS nominees to be confirmed to the Supreme Court who also happened to be female. That’s how sensitive a segment of the population is today.

You are certainly right. Imagine someone being upset at a private institution for not making a press release or a tweet about an award?
 

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They had no problem promoting the players BLM activism and obviously didn't care about the blowback from that though.

You obviously don't understand how this works. One side is allowed to scream at the other side all they want and burn shit down. The other side is racist, sexist, wateverthefuk-ist so their opinion does not matter. Just like goofy ole Lou thinking that abortion is murder - her body her choice dammit! (with the obvious exception of wearing a mask - then her body is her governor's choice*)



*just the way Bill Clinton always intended it to be
 

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Trump awards Lou Holtz with medal of Freedom

This thread makes me wish Book tweeted support for Biden or Trump, so half the board would be forced to watch the rest of the season feverishly clutching their pearls, knowing someone they never met had a different opinion one time on something.


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This thread makes me wish Book tweeted support for Biden or Trump, so half the board would be forced to watch the rest of the season feverishly clutching their pearls, knowing someone they never met had a different opinion one time on something.


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Makes me wonder how many political/ religious questions college coaches have to take from recruits and their families. Especially at a place like ND.
 

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People on social media cancelling Lou again because he spoke at a Trump rally, "fans" and self proclaimed alumni alike (If those claims are believable). I honestly think it's ridiculous people would let something as silly as politics shape their personal opinion on an individual especially non-politicians. People are asking what his former players think of him now...obviously these people don't know Lou and don't know most of his players. They've known where he stands, they know his character and his Catholic background. His players often stick by him and support him in charity work and other events.

Not going to lie, politicians are often slimy as it comes with the territory. I don't agree with much of liberal Hollywood, but I'm not going to quit watching someone's movies necessarily because I disagree with them. I'm not petty, I can separate the person from the politics because in a two party system there is never a right and a wrong side. There may be a right and a wrong position, but neither party is wrong in general. Both sides want us divided.

It's just silly seeing all these messages from people saying "My dad is rolling in his grave over this." Did your dad even know Lou? I highly doubt it. Lou is a man of character that has put three things first in his life: God, family, and Notre Dame. He took time out of his day and bowl prep before the '91 bowl game in Hawaii to meet my grandfather and family. He talked at length about those three things. That's the kind of man he is. He left a real impression on my grandfather, the kind you rarely get from a Tweet or even a public speaking event. People are never the sum of a few actions, and when it comes to politics I think people need to learn how to separate their feelings from political perceptions again...especially when it comes to non-politicians.
 

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In addition to what ulukinatme stated, Holtz is 85 years old. Unless you’re a big Trump supporter, who cares? This tells me that if Twitter were around in the early 80s, Holtz would’ve never gotten the ND job b/c he endorsed Jesse Helms for NC Senate while HC at Arkansas. If you didn’t know Holtz’s politics by now, you never really paid attention. I probably don’t align politically w/ Brian Kelly, but I never let it adversely affect my rooting for his success to turn around ND. And I’ll always be thankful for his contributions.
 

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I especially like that anti-Lou tweets were promoted on my twitter feed. People I don't follow getting tagged as "may be of interest to you" - really fed up with that platform and the way they twist and filter things to try an mold opinion.
 
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