Tommy Rees - Offensive Coordinator

[arahop]

I really don’t get the Tommy the play caller criticisms. Freeman, a defensive coach, said he wanted to shorten the game. So marching orders were to be conservative. OSUs punter was fantastic, furthering the game script to be conservative. If someone can show me all the plays that had no explosive component I’ll hang up and listen. But most of the criticisms I’ve read are no points = conservative which really isn’t the case. Did he call a perfect game? Of course not. But I wouldn’t put the playcalling even in the Top 5 of offensive issues.

When you'r Oline is getting dominated all game long. And the QB has 1.5 seconds before he gets blasted, maybe run some quick slants,WR/ RB screens, TE Screens, PA Rollouts, a few Bootlegs. Common things to beat or slow down a pass rush that is taking the Oline to the wood shed. I'll carry on criticism. Especially against Clemson, and USC. I don't understand the non criticism. Even if the plan is to slow down the game. All of thos high percentage pass plays do just that.

 

[arahop]

Love that the excuse on Tommy's shit calling is because "They aren't his guys"

 

[ulukinatme]

It's not just that the buck stops at BK, it was his decision to hire and retain those two:

Brian Kelly hired Del Alexander, not Tommy.
Brian Kelly hired Jeff Quinn, not Tommy.
Brian Kelly was the one that failed to hold either of them accountable when they failed to land quality recruits at their position.

Keep in mind, this all PREDATES Tommy's promotion to OC. He took over in 2020. So pretty much all the players that Tommy had more involvement with are true sophomores or freshman currently.

By the time Tommy had even close to a full hold of the offensive staff, what was he going to do? Damage was already done. Quinn and Del had already screwed up multiple classes. And if Kelly wasn't going to move on from them after that, why would he listen to the rookie OC?

This dude has been nailin' it. The poison is gone, the future is bright offensively under these new position coaches and influx of talent we're seeing. There's no reason this offense can't improve going forward, especially in '23 and '24. I expect we'll see improvements even this year just with the OL getting their assignments right.

 

[arahop]

This dude has been nailin' it. The poison is gone, the future is bright offensively under these new position coaches and influx of talent we're seeing. There's no reason this offense can't improve going forward, especially in '23 and '24. I expect we'll see improvements even this year just with the OL getting their assignments right.

Always the future right? Thought I remembered worries around here that he would jet for the NFL. Let's revisit this once we play elite teams. You can come on here after we score 6-7 TDs against the Thundering Herd and say " I told you Rees is awesome."

Change your Pyne Campaign signature bud,

 

[Crazy Balki]

Love that the excuse on Tommy's shit calling is because "They aren't his guys"

Yeah, it's just making excuses that ND has a collective ZERO receivers left over from the 2019 and 2020 classes or that we only had 3 receivers that weren't injured going into the OSU game. It's just making excuses that ND's OL recruiting was so bad in '18, '19 and '20, that were are severely lacking in upperclassmen talent to the point that we have few options to replace two subpar starters.

Just excuses....

 

[Dale]

When you'r Oline is getting dominated all game long. And the QB has 1.5 seconds before he gets blasted, maybe run some quick slants,WR/ RB screens, TE Screens, PA Rollouts, a few Bootlegs. Common things to beat or slow down a pass rush that is taking the Oline to the wood shed. I'll carry on criticism. Especially against Clemson, and USC. I don't understand the non criticism. Even if the plan is to slow down the game. All of thos high percentage pass plays do just that.

Run a screen is maybe the most arm chair QB criticism possible lol. I’ll give you one screen call. Now what? Buchner also had WR screen options on many of his reads. Mayer caught for sure one of them for a first down.

Why would OSU fall for a bootleg when we aren’t lining up under center?

 

[Crazy Balki]

Always the future right? Thought I remembered worries around here that he would jet for the NFL. Let's revisit this once we play elite teams. You can come on here after we score 6-7 TDs against the Thundering Herd and say " I told you Rees is awesome."

Change your Pyne Campaign signature bud,

Don't worry, your take will be just as trash as it is now.

 

[stlnd01]

Love that the excuse on Tommy's shit calling is because "They aren't his guys"

No. He could call better, for sure. Could have moved the pocket more, given the pass rushers more to think about, etc. But at this point some of y'all are basically ragging on the guy for breathing and calling him a dog of a recruiter, and it's worth noting that pretty much all the actual talent on the offensive side of the ball - Mayer and Patterson excluded - came in under his watch as OC and still has years to develop.

 

[arahop]

Yeah, it's just making excuses that ND has a collective ZERO receivers left over from the 2019 and 2020 classes or that we only had 3 receivers that weren't injured going into the OSU game. It's just making excuses that ND's OL recruiting was so bad in '18, '19 and '20, that were are severely lacking in upperclassmen talent to the point that we have few options to replace two subpar starters.

Just excuses....

Once again adapt with screens, Rollouts, boot legs quick hitters, keep the excuse train coming though.

The offense had one flukish play that led to 3 and one TD afterwards. Just facts not excuses

 

[ulukinatme]

Always the future right? Thought I remembered worries around here that he would jet for the NFL. Let's revisit this once we play elite teams. You can come on here after we score 6-7 TDs against the Thundering Herd and say " I told you Rees is awesome."

Change your Pyne Campaign signature bud,

Never!
I support Buchner, the Pyne thing has been trolling for the most part. He will likely have to play at least the majority of one game this year anyway given the mobile nature of Buchner.

There's probably a good chance Rees does go to the NFL or elsewhere in the next few years. Consensus seemed to be he stuck around to be loyal to the players and the university instead of leaving them in the lurch, but he had a long hard thought about it. He had more lucrative offers to go elsewhere. Nobody is expecting that Marshall will provide a decent test of the offense, just like nobody was crowing our defense elite when we shut down the likes of Navy and GT last year, right?

 

[ulukinatme]

Once again adapt with screens, Rollouts, boot legs quick hitters, keep the excuse train coming though.

The offense had one flukish play that led to 3 and one TD afterwards. Just facts not excuses

Screens are what everyone is calling for. Do you assume Tommy isn't aware of their existence because he's never played football, or perhaps there's another reason? Feels like a no brainer, but what if this offense isn't able to successfully execute a screen? Buchner does have some accuracy issues, and we've already seen our interior OL's lack of athleticism. I'm just spitballing, but there's probably a reason we didn't call for screens Saturday.

 

[arahop]

Screens are what everyone is calling for. Do you assume Tommy isn't aware of their existence because he's never played football, or perhaps there's another reason? Feels like a no brainer, but what if this offense isn't able to successfully execute a screen? Buchner does have some accuracy issues, and we've already seen our interior OL's lack of athleticism. I'm just spitballing, but there's probably a reason we didn't call for screens Saturday.

My personal favorite was the audible on the 3 and 18 QB draw the one time ND got inside their 50. Clever play calling. This goes back to the 2nd half of the bowl game too. Tommy needs to be better.

 

[arahop]

Don't worry, your take will be just as trash as it is now.

I love the boos. What's trash about an objective observation. Was the offense good? Was it even mediocre? Oh right, you just like to pile on boos

 

[arahop]

No. He could call better, for sure. Could have moved the pocket more, given the pass rushers more to think about, etc. But at this point some of y'all are basically ragging on the guy for breathing and calling him a dog of a recruiter, and it's worth noting that pretty much all the actual talent on the offensive side of the ball - Mayer and Patterson excluded - came in under his watch as OC and still has years to develop.

I haven't bashed his recruiting just the inept play calling.

 

[arahop]

Rees had some head scratching moments. If you told me that OSU would be held to 21 points, I thought Notre Dame would win by at least a touchdown.

-Salerno running a fade that ended up with offensive PI. Why is he the one running that route? Styles? Lenzy? Merriweather? He looked like a gunner on punt team.

-That resulted in 1st & 25. Rees then went with a QB draw, jet sweep, QB draw. That is chicken shit football. I understand you have a new QB, but you need to at least try to get a first down.

-The first offensive drive. They didn't even look Mayer's way once. The only pass catcher on the time that is worth a fuck. Design a play to get him the ball.

Tell it like it is

 

[arahop]

It's ok, though. He used to play for ND and that's all that matters.

He's a ND Guy so I'll just blindly and faithfully support his shit play calling and defend it until the end. Offering every excuse possible

 

[Crazy Balki]

I love the boos. What's trash about an objective observation. Was the offense good? Was it even mediocre? Oh right, you just like to pile on boos

You deserve every one of them.

I didn't say Rees was perfect, and I wish he would've done some things different and had some head-scratching calls in that game.

But your ignorant takes just reek of Monday Morning QB'ing. If ND had more legitimate offensive options, I'd be more willing to pile on Tommy. But the reality is that ND is paying for some really bad recruiting on offense and very limited options in the receiving game, combined with a first-time starting QB who's getting pressured on half of his drop backs.

So yeah, excuse me if I'm willing to give him a bit of a pass for the offensive output...

 

[Crazy Balki]

He's a ND Guy so I'll just blindly and faithfully support his shit play calling and defend it until the end. Offering every excuse possible

Meanwhile, you continue to regurgitate the same ignorant "hurr-durr excuses" response over and over again.

We get it. You're smart and Tommy Rees is dumb and anybody who says otherwise is just blinded by their love for Touchdown Tommy.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Never!
I support Buchner, the Pyne thing has been trolling for the most part. He will likely have to play at least the majority of one game this year anyway given the mobile nature of Buchner.

There's probably a good chance Rees does go to the NFL or elsewhere in the next few years. Consensus seemed to be he stuck around to be loyal to the players and the university instead of leaving them in the lurch, but he had a long hard thought about it. He had more lucrative offers to go elsewhere. Nobody is expecting that Marshall will provide a decent test of the offense, just like nobody was crowing our defense elite when we shut down the likes of Navy and GT last year, right?

Wait Rees had more lucrative offers to go elsewhere? He stayed out of loyalty as to not leave ND in a lurch??

Seems like you are stating that Rees was doing ND a favor by staying???

 

[Irishdrunk]

Screens are what everyone is calling for. Do you assume Tommy isn't aware of their existence because he's never played football, or perhaps there's another reason? Feels like a no brainer, but what if this offense isn't able to successfully execute a screen? Buchner does have some accuracy issues, and we've already seen our interior OL's lack of athleticism. I'm just spitballing, but there's probably a reason we didn't call for screens Saturday.

I think the real critique is Rees really didn’t make any adjustments. Ryan Day mad adjustments and we didn’t counter to those adjustments.

 

[arahop]

Run a screen is maybe the most arm chair QB criticism possible lol. I’ll give you one screen call. Now what? Buchner also had WR screen options on many of his reads. Mayer caught for sure one of them for a first down.

Why would OSU fall for a bootleg when we aren’t lining up under center?

I don't know Dale. Maybe implement some, because we have Matt Fucking Salerno Running Fade Routes as our big play surprise threat. Hey a miracle completion worked one time, let's dial that one up all season long. Hail Tommy

 

[Crazy Balki]

I think the real critique is Rees really didn’t make any adjustments. Ryan Day mad adjustments and we didn’t counter to those adjustments.

What adjustments would you have made?

Freeman was pretty clear in what their game plan was. They wanted to craft their play calling around sustaining clock-churning drives. The play-calling appeared to fit that game plan. There were moments I didn't agree with it, and I felt things go too conservative later when ND was behind, but you also have to submit to the reality that ND is severely limited in their personnel to make adjustments. It's hard to do something different when you lack a consistent big-play threat on the perimeter. I have to hope that over the season, Styles and Lenzy can develop into that. But between the struggles at receiver and the interior OL getting manhandled all game, it made things incredibly difficult for Buchner.

 

[arahop]

You deserve every one of them.

I didn't say Rees was perfect, and I wish he would've done some things different and had some head-scratching calls in that game.

But your ignorant takes just reek of Monday Morning QB'ing. If ND had more legitimate offensive options, I'd be more willing to pile on Tommy. But the reality is that ND is paying for some really bad recruiting on offense and very limited options in the receiving game, combined with a first-time starting QB who's getting pressured on half of his drop backs.

So yeah, excuse me if I'm willing to give him a bit of a pass for the offensive output...

Ok boo bird

 

[arahop]

Meanwhile, you continue to regurgitate the same ignorant "hurr-durr excuses" response over and over again.

We get it. You're smart and Tommy Rees is dumb and anybody who says otherwise is just blinded by their love for Touchdown Tommy.

Meanwhile you just boo everything without response. Loser

 

[arahop]

You deserve every one of them.

I didn't say Rees was perfect, and I wish he would've done some things different and had some head-scratching calls in that game.

But your ignorant takes just reek of Monday Morning QB'ing. If ND had more legitimate offensive options, I'd be more willing to pile on Tommy. But the reality is that ND is paying for some really bad recruiting on offense and very limited options in the receiving game, combined with a first-time starting QB who's getting pressured on half of his drop backs.

So yeah, excuse me if I'm willing to give him a bit of a pass for the offensive output...

Yeah man they're really hurting my worth and value on Irish Envy. Boo it up. Losers care about their things. Get that IE street cred. I hope that gets you all you want in life. Want some vbucks so you can spend those in fantasy land?

 

[ulukinatme]

Wait Rees had more lucrative offers to go elsewhere? He stayed out of loyalty as to not leave ND in a lurch??

Seems like you are stating that Rees was doing ND a favor by staying???

He did. Current and former players all stumped for Rees to stay or even have his hat thrown in for HC. If Jack or Freeman didn't want him do you think they would have retained him? They could have let him go. He had a lot of reasons to go, he chose to stay for the players.

 

[arahop]

He did. Current and former players all stumped for Rees to stay or even have his hat thrown in for HC. If Jack or Freeman didn't want him do you think they would have retained him? They could have let him go. He had a lot of reasons to go, he chose to stay for the players.

Boo bitches

 

[Crazy Balki]

Ok boo bird

Boo bitches

Thanks for confirming that you are an ignorant troll.

Mods, arahop here might need a break.

 

[ulukinatme]

Boo bitches

Are you okay? For real. Wow.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Meanwhile you just boo everything without response. Loser

Uh, I've responded to almost every one of your comments dude.

It's not my fault that all you seem to have to respond with is regurgitating the "more excuses" spiel, which BTW, is an insanely lazy defense of your argument.