Shamrock Series Uniforms vs ASU

[Whiskeyjack]

I hope they wear black. It would be a crazy cool matchup

Devils in black v. Catholics in white? The pre-game commentary will be insufferable.

 

[ulukinatme]

Cleveland would be awesome, but I doubt that they would move a home game such a short distance without that destination being named Chicago.

I think the other problem could be the location puts you right between to large fan bases: Michigan and Ohio State, effectively in their backyard. I can tell you that OSU has no love for the Irish, some of them hate Notre Dame more than Michigan. No, as cool as it would be for me to see the Irish play in Cleveland, I agree that it's not far enough from South Bend and you could wind up with a lot of B1G supporters and anti-Irish fans filling out the venue.

 

[irishpat183]

They should do the next one down here at Reliant.

I think from a recruiting standpoint, they'd would do better doing these games down the south like they have been..

 

[ClausentoTate]

They should do the next one down here at Reliant.

I think from a recruiting standpoint, they'd would do better doing these games down the south like they have been..

Saw Club USA play Barca a couple years ago at Reliant and was stuck on the highway for 4 hours. Worst driving experience I've ever had.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I think the other problem could be the location puts you right between to large fan bases: Michigan and Ohio State, effectively in their backyard. I can tell you that OSU has no love for the Irish, some of them hate Notre Dame more than Michigan. No, as cool as it would be for me to see the Irish play in Cleveland, I agree that it's not far enough from South Bend and you could wind up with a lot of B1G supporters and anti-Irish fans filling out the venue.

Notre Dame has a pretty damn big following in Ohio, Cincinnati especially. It's important to add that Notre Dame used to play in Cleveland very often against Navy. Cleveland is a pretty Catholic town and has two if the best Catholic high schools in the country (St. Eds and St. Ignatius).

I also don't think for a second the OSU or UM fans would have any negative impact. Texas fans won't impact the Dallas game, and it's close enough to South Bend for the regular fans to drive if they wanted.

I think an SS game in Ohio would be a great way to not only pay homage to the state that has done so much for ND, but to build on that and reestablish the ND name.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Plus if Hendrix comes back and Golson doesn't, all of the ND QBs would be from Ohio, no? What is it about I-75 that makes kids want to throw the rock for Brian Kelly?

 

[ahommell]

Devils in black v. Catholics in white? The pre-game commentary will be insufferable.

Good point. But they are already the Devils. I mean c'mon... Journalists won't be able to help themselves.... the content: It's just sitting there. It is asking us to do it.

 

[kmoose]

Notre Dame has a pretty damn big following in Ohio, Cincinnati especially. It's important to add that Notre Dame used to play in Cleveland very often against Navy. Cleveland is a pretty Catholic town and has two if the best Catholic high schools in the country (St. Eds and St. Ignatius).

I also don't think for a second the OSU or UM fans would have any negative impact. Texas fans won't impact the Dallas game, and it's close enough to South Bend for the regular fans to drive if they wanted.

I think an SS game in Ohio would be a great way to not only pay homage to the state that has done so much for ND, but to build on that and reestablish the ND name.

Yeah, I don't think the prevalence of B1G fans would have anything to do with it. To me, it's more of the idea that many fans from Ohio live close enough that they are able to get to South Bend, fairly easily, to see a game there. The whole purpose of barnstorming is to bring your brand (LIVE ND football, in this case) to places that it is otherwise not likely to be seen.

 

[ahommell]

Yeah, I don't think the prevalence of B1G fans would have anything to do with it. To me, it's more of the idea that many fans from Ohio live close enough that they are able to get to South Bend, fairly easily, to see a game there. The whole purpose of barnstorming is to bring your brand (LIVE ND football, in this case) to places that it is otherwise not likely to be seen.

Yeah... too close. We need this sort of football in far off mysterious non-Irish territory. Think West Coast.
Think Florida.
Think New York.

Whoa... wait. What about a match up Atlanta? Always a winner.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Yeah, I don't think the prevalence of B1G fans would have anything to do with it. To me, it's more of the idea that many fans from Ohio live close enough that they are able to get to South Bend, fairly easily, to see a game there. The whole purpose of barnstorming is to bring your brand (LIVE ND football, in this case) to places that it is otherwise not likely to be seen.

Agreed.

But to play devil's advocate that then eliminates areas around traditional rivals (e.g. California) and ACC country (i.e. Boston, Pittsburgh, Charlotte, Atlanta, Jacksonville, Tampa, Orlando, Miami. Washington DC, Philadelphia). Plus ND plays Navy in New Jersey enough so NYC is moot. See my point?

 

[kmoose]

Agreed.

But to play devil's advocate that then eliminates areas around traditional rivals (e.g. California) and ACC country (i.e. Boston, Pittsburgh, Charlotte, Atlanta, Jacksonville, Tampa, Orlando, Miami. Washington DC, Philadelphia). Plus ND plays Navy in New Jersey enough so NYC is moot. See my point?

Well, they are obviously limited by population. You aren't going to play a game in Poughkeepsie, Idaho, at the local high school stadium. But the point is: If you are going to move a home game, you're probably more likely to move it to Charlotte, NC, to increase your exposure there, than to Cleveland, OH, where most of your fans have the ways and means to get to South Bend to see you.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I know what you're saying, and I don't think I even disagree with it, but isn't exposure now guaranteed in North Carolina with away games against North Carolina, Duke, Wake Forest, and North Carolina State?

My most basic point is that the national rivals and ACC affiliation gives ND truly national exposure. It's basically the west sans California and SEC country that doesn't overlap with the ACC that remains.

At the end of the day I think New Orleans is the best option. Great opportunity to grow the brand with the Catholic population, and the chance to play in a place that Notre Dame normally isn't able to.

Cleveland wouldn't make the top ten in my book, but then again there are dozens of great ideas. It has to be one of the coolest parts of Swarbrick's job and I hope this tradition continues to happen.

 

[ahommell]

At the end of the day I think New Orleans is the best option. Great opportunity to grow the brand with the Catholic population, and the chance to play in a place that Notre Dame normally isn't able to.

NOLA doesn't give a flying you know what about Notre Dame. Sure we could play LSU there... but who else would we play? Want Louisiana Tech to drive down from Rustin? Southern Miss gonna drive from Hattiesburg over the bridge? Yeah. No. Those would be some great picks. That would really bolster our schedule.

I want the Irish to play in NOLA as much as anybody. My girlfriend's family is from there... I am 3 hours by train (That I can drink on the entire way there)... Bourbon Street... Fun...

BUT NO ONE THERE WANTS US THERE AND WE ARENT GOING TO PICK UP LOUISIANA RECRUITS BY PLAYING THERE. (OR MISSISSIPPI)

I think Buster is right though... lots of love in Cleveland. That is our banana stand. There is always money in the banana stand.

 

[Buster Bluth]

NOLA doesn't give a flying you know what about Notre Dame. Sure we could play LSU there... but who else would we play? Want Louisiana Tech to drive down from Rustin? Southern Miss gonna drive from Hattiesburg over the bridge? Yeah. No. Those would be some great picks. That would really bolster our schedule.

I want the Irish to play in NOLA as much as anybody. My girlfriend's family is from there... I am 3 hours by train (That I can drink on the entire way there)... Bourbon Street... Fun...

BUT NO ONE THERE WANTS US THERE AND WE ARENT GOING TO PICK UP LOUISIANA RECRUITS BY PLAYING THERE. (OR MISSISSIPPI)

I think Buster is right though... lots of love in Cleveland. That is our banana stand. There is always money in the banana stand.

WUT. There is shred of Notre Dame love in Dallas? The fan base will show up, I have no doubts there.

They wouldn't need to play Louisiana Tech or Southern Miss either. Is Notre Dame playing Arizona State in Dallas because they're close? Why wouldn't they play TCU instead? Why did they bring Washington State to San Antonio? The fans will show up because "Bourbon Street... Fun..." is there. They'll more than likely be bringing an ACC team to the 2014 Shamrock Series location. No need for LT or SMU.

But yes, Cleveland is the banana stand. Can't argue with that.

 

[kmoose]

NOLA doesn't give a flying you know what about Notre Dame. Sure we could play LSU there... but who else would we play?

We could play any number of teams. The Shamrock Series is usually an ND home game. I bet that Oklahoma would be just as willing to travel to New Orleans, to play ND, as they would be willing to travel to South Bend. Florida State and/or Miami would probably jump all over it.

 

[ahommell]

We could play any number of teams. The Shamrock Series is usually an ND home game. I bet that Oklahoma would be just as willing to travel to New Orleans, to play ND, as they would be willing to travel to South Bend. Florida State and/or Miami would probably jump all over it.

Florida State or Miami wouldn't mind it at all. Truth. ACC though. We will get plenty of that already.

Arizona State sees Dallas the same way we do- why not play a game in a state where you want the talent?

Schools I would love to see in the Shamrock Series in NOLA or elsewhere - Texas, Georgia, Florida, Florida State (ACC now we get to play them... lets pick teams we wouldn't get to), or Oklahoma. (Big Schools with big bases)

 

[kmoose]

Florida State or Miami wouldn't mind it at all. Truth. ACC though. We will get plenty of that already.

Arizona State sees Dallas the same way we do- why not play a game in a state where you want the talent?

Schools I would love to see in the Shamrock Series in NOLA or elsewhere - Texas, Georgia, Florida, Florida State (ACC now we get to play them... lets pick teams we wouldn't get to), or Oklahoma. (Big Schools with big bases)

It's not like we are going to be playing a full ACC schedule, though. Only 5 ACC games a year. If an ACC team is on a roll, and highly ranked year in and year out, then I would not hesitate to schedule them for a Shamrock Series game.

 

[Buster Bluth]

It's not like we are going to be playing a full ACC schedule, though. Only 5 ACC games a year. If an ACC team is on a roll, and highly ranked year in and year out, then I would not hesitate to schedule them for a Shamrock Series game.

This.

 

[irishpat183]

Saw Club USA play Barca a couple years ago at Reliant and was stuck on the highway for 4 hours. Worst driving experience I've ever had.

What? Where were you??

I've never seen it THAT bad. I have season tickets to the Texans, I'm down there 10 times a year.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

i think a game in lambeau would be cool. and wrigley would be huge (its an ugly set up), although not getting in front of a newer market, which is a decent percentage of what the shamrock is about.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Lambeau would be amazing. I'd pay any amount of money to be there for that.

Fenway is probably too small, but wasn't that mentioned a few months back?

 

[Irish Houstonian]

What? Where were you??

I've never seen it THAT bad. I have season tickets to the Texans, I'm down there 10 times a year.

For reals. I don't know about soccer traffic, but if we can accomodate the Super Bowl I think we can handle the Shamrock Series.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

Lambeau would be amazing. I'd pay any amount of money to be there for that.

Fenway is probably too small, but wasn't that mentioned a few months back?

yeah. thats the case with wrigley too.

 

[ahommell]

Lambeau would be amazing. I'd pay any amount of money to be there for that.

THIS

 

[ACamp1900]

I bet they could do Dodger Stadium for a USC game... does not even have to be SS... just a nice little change... historic and makes Reliant's parking lot and traffic look efficient I am sure.

 

[Voltaire]

I hope they wear black. It would be a crazy cool matchup

Just to maximize this match-up from an aesthetic perspective, the Shamrock Series jerseys should have been all-white pants and shirt, white matte helmet, gold facemask, gold shoes, gold player numbers, and gold shamrocks.

 

[PLACforever]

Some idiot on Yahoo had this too say:

Wayne
Colleges waste so much money on uniform changes and locker room upgrades instead of working on incentives to entice good players..
6 Replies

 

[returnofthemack]

Some idiot on Yahoo had this too say:

Wayne
Colleges waste so much money on uniform changes and locker room upgrades instead of working on incentives to entice good players..
6 Replies

yahoo comment sections are invariably cesspools of ignorance.

 

[PLACforever]

yahoo comment sections are invariably cesspools of ignorance.

agreed.
The first response was something like, "Incentives such as scholarships?"

I'm guessing he's an SEC fan and wants the schools to stop spending money on silly things like uniforms and providing an education and just give it to the players so they can spend it on the important stuff like tattoos, cars, sneakers, etc.

 

[ulukinatme]

Notre Dame has a pretty damn big following in Ohio, Cincinnati especially. It's important to add that Notre Dame used to play in Cleveland very often against Navy. Cleveland is a pretty Catholic town and has two if the best Catholic high schools in the country (St. Eds and St. Ignatius).

I also don't think for a second the OSU or UM fans would have any negative impact. Texas fans won't impact the Dallas game, and it's close enough to South Bend for the regular fans to drive if they wanted.

I think an SS game in Ohio would be a great way to not only pay homage to the state that has done so much for ND, but to build on that and reestablish the ND name.

I certainly agree with you on the ND following in the Cinci area and beyond. Theres a good number of Catholic high schools down here and the Dayton area, not to mention Xavier University. However, being an OSU alum you have to admit that theres a good population of Buckeye fans that can't stand the Irish. Given that Ann Arbor isn't a huge jump from Cleveland either, you're talking about a game pitted in a venue smack dab between the Hatfields and McCoys, neither of which have much love for the Irish. I could see a lot of these fans making the short drive just to cheer against Notre Dame. I don't think they'd take over the stadium, but I would guess they'd have some good numbers in attendance. I'm less worried about Texas fans tbh. For the most part they're indifferent to Notre Dame, at least in comparison to Michigan and OSU fans.

I'm not all that worried about establishing, reestablishing, or building on ND's name in Ohio. As you said, it's close enough to South Bend that any fans that want to see the Irish can do it fairly easily, and the decent Catholic population will help keep it alive. I'd much rather continue to strengthen our reach in the South and West Coast.