Sep 28 | Oklahoma

[ScooterIrish]

He has no real problems...he's just a troll plain and simple.

No his soft teams aren't an issue. His lack of dedication to the run game isn't an issue. He would rather go five wide every time. His hiring of an average coaching staff with not a lot of experience isn't an issue. His terrible special teams in 4 years isn't an issue either. Terrible predictable offense isn't much of an issue either.

I'll leave now. Posting on an ipad isn't as fun as a regular computer. Enjoy the Kelly lovefest.

 

[aubeirish]

I'm definitely in the "Rees in our best option" camp, but you would have to be blind to say that this game wouldn't have been COMPLETELY different with Golson at the helm. We likely would not have dug ourselves into a 14-0 hole within 3 minutes, thus the running game (which was largely dominant) would have been able to grind OU down for much more than it already did. Golson would have kept a couple plays alive - especially on 3rd and medium downs. It sucks that Rees is our best option, but he is. Onto ASU.

This. It's painful, but it's the truth. We just have to wish we can only get better here and get some Ws. Season is still pretty early. Go Irish.

 

[Kanye West]

Is there a disconnect with Rees and DD? I've noticed a few times they weren't on the same page today, and last week DD looked like he was playing for a flag as much as a reception at times. For as good as he can play, he just seems a bit down.

A number of players skipped the alma mater and walked straight into tunnel.

Lou, Davaris, and TJ among them.

Pretty **** poor showing, regardless of how they played/the outcome.

They have to be pissed at Rees....

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Bluto, the only greenhorn in a key positions on D is Grace and Jaylon. So, I don't see your point.

Farley played all year and in the nat champ. Collingsworth is a Junior, lacks overall exp. But, still a junior.

Bjack is a senior and tons of exp.

Russell is a Soph and played all year.

Carlo and Fox--exp.

Nix/Tuitt/Shembo/Kona all will be gone next year. So, very experienced.

So, we have a ton of exp. It is just grace and jaylon. Even though Farley and Russell are young they played a ton last year and in big games.

I think the issue will be next year and greenhorns. Not this year.

Next year we have to replace Tuitt (most likely), Nix, Jackson, Shembo, Carlo, Fox, and Kona. That will be huge. It isn't the problem this year.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

I'm very disappointed in the coaching staff.
They continue to run the normal defense out against 3 wide sets.
This is why they look slow.
You have linebackers covering receivers.
This is why they cannot get to the flat to stop even the most predictable of plays.
That was embarrassing.


Those of you calling for Hendrix:
I too, would like to see him play.
Unfortunately the truth is, he's even more horrible than Rees.
If he was better, he'd be playing.
Rees is inaccurate, has a noodle arm, and moves like he has roots.
Even his perceived strength is, imo, a hindrance.
His brain disallows him to just run the play and get the team in a rhythm.
Instead he out thinks himself and is constantly flirting with delay penalties.
I just can't imagine that if Hendrix was better he wouldn't be already playing.

 

[irishff1014]

]I thought tackling overall was pretty outstanding.[/B]
Running game obviously was the best we have seen this year.

Wow ok about tackling.

GAIII was able to get outside and when he did he has that gear.

 

[irishtrinity]

Love my Irish D looked good. Turnovers won the game.. We win if we don't turn the ball over.. Go Irish Beat Devils

 

[Bluto]

Does anyone have any positives about today's game? i see some great talent and am excited about our true freshman. Go Irish.

I see lots of potential. Liked how we kept coming. Atkinson balled out. He's now responsible for putting us back into three big games since he stepped on campus.

 

[Irish Insanity]

How is the reason "another year of experience" bs?? It's true.

He had to relieve him because he was a freshman QB. Down the stretch he started to come into his own. He would have done very well this year. There was no indication to suggest other wise.

Golson makes this offense so much better and you could see it today. If no one is open Rees would force it (INTs) or way overthrow it. He is NEVER a threat to run. With Golson if he sees nothing open he can move out of the pocket and give WRs more time to get open or take off with it. Snowball effect creates first downs, moves the field, gives time for defense to rest up, more possibility to put points on the board.

Rees has added the same year of experience. Hasn't seen to work for him and we've got to see him play. Golson on the other hand is more of a wish or thought for everyone as far as how he would have done. He hasn't done anything this year to show anyone it woulda been any better than last.
And he did come into his own later in the year. He also made a immature mistake that cost him this season. So we are to say he woulda been so much better this year yet he couldn't keep his head on straight to even get the opportunity to show us.
I have faith in Golson, and I'd love to have him leading this team. I have full belief in him. But so many are stating unknowns of what Golson would be and basing it on how mediocre Rees has been. One is a fact that we've seen, the other is a belief that we won't see. He isn't on the team.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

NOrcal, I see that GAIII made people miss today. Jaylon is becoming very good. Tuitt looked a little better.

But, overall too many problems.

 

[returnofthemack]

Oklahoma did not look that good. I think they would be torched by an SEC team. And we already know michigan isn't very good. So we've squeaked out wins vs bad teams, beat a really bad team, and lost to two #20-25 caliber teams. Also, I really hate both of the weird penalties that were called. Targeting? and the 15 yard penalty for continuing to play without a helmet is one of the stupidest rules ever.

 

[FearTheBeard]

A number of players skipped the alma mater and walked straight into tunnel.

Lou, Davaris, and TJ among them.

Pretty **** poor showing, regardless of how they played/the outcome.

Wow. If theres one thing thats for sure its that senior leadership is one of the most important things to have on a team. Thats just ridiculous right there, man up and be a leader for the team especially if youre a captain

 

[NDfan12]

53 yard TD on 3rd and short is never okay..let alone when you're down. Defense has been sketchy..Tommy as been BAD. There's actually weapons on offense but with Tommy sucking it doesn't even matter. Golson can scramble and has a MUCH better arm than Tommy. I'm so pissed for the poor choice he made in the offseason.

 

[gkIrish]

Wow ok about tackling.

GAIII was able to get outside and when he did he has that gear.

How many missed tackles did you see? I hardly saw any. Nothing like the Michigan game.

The definition of a missed tackle is not bringing down the runner when you are in a position to make the play. Being out of position (which I did see) doesn't count.

 

[Bluto]

A number of players skipped the alma mater and walked straight into tunnel.

Lou, Davaris, and TJ among them.

Pretty **** poor showing, regardless of how they played/the outcome.

That's embarrassing. Talk about lack of leadership. Yeesh.

 

[ickythump1225]

They have to be pissed at Rees....

I blame Longo.

 

[ThePiombino]

Rees has added the same year of experience. Hasn't seen to work for him and we've got to see him play. Golson on the other hand is more of a wish or thought for everyone as far as how he would have done. He hasn't done anything this year to show anyone it woulda been any better than last.
And he did come into his own later in the year. He also made a immature mistake that cost him this season. So we are to say he woulda been so much better this year yet he couldn't keep his head on straight to even get the opportunity to show us.
I have faith in Golson, and I'd love to have him leading this team. I have full belief in him. But so many are stating unknowns of what Golson would be and basing it on how mediocre Rees has been. One is a fact that we've seen, the other is a belief that we won't see. He isn't on the team.

4 years in the system for Rees, plus he's hit his ceiling already (probably 2 years ago). BIG difference.

 

[aubeirish]

I blame Longo.

Classic.

 

[Irish Insanity]

4 years in the system for Rees, plus he's hit his ceiling already (probably 2 years ago). BIG difference.

Point well taken. My point was the many who make statements based on the belief of what Golson would have been in comparison to what Rees actually it. Golson and what his performance would have been this year cannot be proven. I hate that people make a definitive statement of how much better this team would be with Golson at the helm. Had he shown us something this year I would agree. He hasn't.

 

[irishff1014]

How many missed tackles did you see? I hardly saw any. Nothing like the Michigan game.

The definition of a missed tackle is not bringing down the runner when you are in a position to make the play. Being out of position (which I did see) doesn't count.

Bennett missed at least 3 by himself that i can remember of. It wasn't as bad a michigan but still not good.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Does anyone have any positives about today's game? i see some great talent and am excited about our true freshman. Go Irish.

Plenty of them. (GASP!!!)

I thought Oklahoma was going to simply crush Notre Dame. I think score predictions are inherently a stupid idea, but I went ahead and predicted 52-21 Oklahoma. The Irish looked better than I thought they would.

I think it's set in stone that Rees will be essentially useless against supremely athletic defenses. Southern Cal 2010, Florida State 2011, Oklahoma 2013. If a team can force Notre Dame into passing situations the Irish will struggle. That's why, for me, Rees' eight or so straight incompletions are much more indicative of his inabilities than the interceptions. He doesn't have the arm strength to put it into small windows.

Notre Dame wouldn't have been in said situation if it weren't for spotting them fourteen points, and **** away opportunities into the fourth quarter. They could have ran the ball on Oklahoma and use that play action big time, but the situation obviously wouldn't call for that. But anyway that (the running game) is a huge positive. I loved the zone running today, Kelly has a really athletic offensive line and Niklas is just the cherry on top who can own the end of the line of scrimmage.

Defensively I think people are overstating a lot of things. Oklahoma has a fantastic offense, and they simply match up with Notre Dame well. I was actually impressed by how well they did cover in space, muuuuuch better than against Purdue/Michigan. They're making improvements every week, I think that much is obvious if you actually look at it. They weren't put in good positions; Oklahoma had the ball for 35 minutes, in large part due to quick Notre Dame drives for better or worse. Bend but don't break would have worked as well as ever without ****ing ourselves for in the first three minutes.

As much as we want to rip safeties for being slow or whatever, how many long passes did Oklahoma complete on them? I can't think of them. I was expecting them to hit seams all day, Oklahoma was almost totally lateral today. That they didn't throw at safeties says something, I don't know what though.

 

[IrishFan4L]

Insane. Totally insane. 1) Oklahoma could go undefeated, the Big 12 blows, and play in the championship. 2) Notre Dame just spotted them 14 and lost by fourteen.

Start preparing for 2014?! Dude how about going 9-3 and win a non-BCS bowl for 10-3.

Oh never mind the sky is falling...

OU may go undefeated but it sure isn't because they played & beat any quality opponents. There biggest win will be us and we're not worth a **** Texas, TCU, Ok State none of them will get them to a national championship hell none may be rated by the time they play! There will be 1 loss teams get in before OU & they may get to a BCS Bowl but they sure won't win & sure the hell don't deserve to be there! As for us we don't play anyone worth a **** other then Stanford & I don't think anyone in this forum would bet on us that Game. 9-3 10-3 would be a decent year but we're not headed in that direction!! We're not good !!!

 

[IrishSteelhead]

A number of players skipped the alma mater and walked straight into tunnel.

Lou, Davaris, and TJ among them.

Pretty **** poor showing, regardless of how they played/the outcome.

That's weak, and certainly more disappointing to hear than the loss itself. It does shed some light on the current leadership issues though.

 

[aubeirish]

Plenty of them. (GASP!!!)

I thought Oklahoma was going to simply crush Notre Dame. I think score predictions are inherently a stupid idea, but I went ahead and predicted 52-21 Oklahoma. The Irish looked better than I thought they would.

I think it's set in stone that Rees will be essentially useless against supremely athletic defenses. Southern Cal 2010, Florida State 2011, Oklahoma 2013. If a team can force Notre Dame into passing situations the Irish will struggle. That's why, for me, Rees' eight or so straight incompletions are much more indicative of his inabilities than the interceptions. He doesn't have the arm strength to put it into small windows.

Notre Dame wouldn't have been in said situation if it weren't for spotting them fourteen points, and **** away opportunities into the fourth quarter. They could have ran the ball on Oklahoma and use that play action big time, but the situation obviously wouldn't call for that. But anyway that (the running game) is a huge positive. I loved the zone running today, Kelly has a really athletic offensive line and Niklas is just the cherry on top who can own the end of the line of scrimmage.

Defensively I think people are overstating a lot of things. Oklahoma has a fantastic offense, and they simply match up with Notre Dame well. I was actually impressed by how well they did cover in space, muuuuuch better than against Purdue/Michigan. They're making improvements every week, I think that much is obvious if you actually look at it. They weren't put in good positions; Oklahoma had the ball for 35 minutes, in large part due to quick Notre Dame drives for better or worse. Bend but don't break would have worked as well as ever without ****ing ourselves for in the first three minutes.

As much as we want to rip safeties for being slow or whatever, how many long passes did Oklahoma complete on them? I can't think of them. I was expecting them to hit seams all day, Oklahoma was almost totally lateral today. That they didn't throw at safeties says something, I don't know what though.

This post deserves a repost. Here it is.

 

[Buster Bluth]

OU may go undefeated but it sure isn't because they played & beat any quality opponents. There biggest win will be us and we're not worth a **** Texas, TCU, Ok State none of them will get them to a national championship hell none may be rated by the time they play! There will be 1 loss teams get in before OU & they may get to a BCS Bowl but they sure won't win & sure the hell don't deserve to be there! As for us we don't play anyone worth a **** other then Stanford & I don't think anyone in this forum would bet on us that Game. 9-3 10-3 would be a decent year but we're not headed in that direction!! We're not good !!!

I think your standard for "worth a ****" is off.

 

[IrishFan4L]

I think your standard for "worth a ****" is off.

Tell me a Top 15 team you have no doubt we could beat hell OU was rated 14 I believe???

 

[irishff1014]

Plenty of them. (GASP!!!)

I thought Oklahoma was going to simply crush Notre Dame. I think score predictions are inherently a stupid idea, but I went ahead and predicted 52-21 Oklahoma. The Irish looked better than I thought they would.

I think it's set in stone that Rees will be essentially useless against supremely athletic defenses. Southern Cal 2010, Florida State 2011, Oklahoma 2013. If a team can force Notre Dame into passing situations the Irish will struggle. That's why, for me, Rees' eight or so straight incompletions are much more indicative of his inabilities than the interceptions. He doesn't have the arm strength to put it into small windows.

Notre Dame wouldn't have been in said situation if it weren't for spotting them fourteen points, and **** away opportunities into the fourth quarter. They could have ran the ball on Oklahoma and use that play action big time, but the situation obviously wouldn't call for that. But anyway that (the running game) is a huge positive. I loved the zone running today, Kelly has a really athletic offensive line and Niklas is just the cherry on top who can own the end of the line of scrimmage.

Defensively I think people are overstating a lot of things. Oklahoma has a fantastic offense, and they simply match up with Notre Dame well. I was actually impressed by how well they did cover in space, muuuuuch better than against Purdue/Michigan. They're making improvements every week, I think that much is obvious if you actually look at it. They weren't put in good positions; Oklahoma had the ball for 35 minutes, in large part due to quick Notre Dame drives for better or worse. Bend but don't break would have worked as well as ever without ****ing ourselves for in the first three minutes.

As much as we want to rip safeties for being slow or whatever, how many long passes did Oklahoma complete on them? I can't think of them. I was expecting them to hit seams all day, Oklahoma was almost totally lateral today. That they didn't throw at safeties says something, I don't know what though.

Did the even try to throw the ball more then 15 yards more then a couple times?

 

[frankygoes69]

Well,

What the FVck? I hate and I mean hate that this is how I feel. ND was the better team on D and O today, with the exceptions of turnovers. Can someone tell me why this team/year feels soooooooo blah? Negativity on all corners of the United States, yet we have had the opportunity to win in both of these losses?

I feel that there is way too much golf clapping, finger pointing, hands on hips and so on. Negativity kills the mood, ala this year and years past. Positivity wins, from now until kingdom come.

I know that this a place where people can come and post there feelings, thoughts, complaints and sometimes happiness, but I would like to line up all of the people who place so much negativity and kick them in the sack.

Yes, that means you tough guy, behind the computer (me too) but it is what it is.

Unless you bet the house on the game and that is YOUR bad, you are a player, coach etc., release your frustrations on the internet (IE, OTS, PORN) but remember ND is one of the purest college football programs in the country.

Buck up crazies, we have a stable of 4/5* players who are learning the system and will be seasoned in years to come. That means QB's, WR's, RB's, OL Men, TE's and so on.

Remember, the kick in sack is always available from me by me. I'm not scared.

VR,
Frank

 

[Bluto]

Here it is...our offense is about as good as the last four years (not very) but our defense isn't as good as last year.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Tell me a Top 15 team you have no doubt we could beat hell OU was rated 14 I believe???

That's an extremely strange phrase when you think about it. Hell, I have no doubt that Notre Dame could beat Oklahoma if they played tomorrow.

I don't care about any team not on Notre Dame's schedule, and they are within the margin of error of being able to beat every remaining team. The Irish match up pretty well with Stanford, I'll say that much.