Roster/Staff changes compilation

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If anyone wants to update this thread where we can all come to one place and see the latest on firing/ hiring and decomits/ transfers I will gladly give them 100 billion vbucks.

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beryirish

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I guess you can already put Zaire and Montelus as transfers.

Werner and Jeter as decommits.
 

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Werner, Beal, and Jeter as decommits. We've lost 50 sacks in the next 3 years in those 3.

50? you are aware Williams, Tuitt and Lynch gave us a total of 28 sacks for their entire ND careers combined... but sure... 50
 
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50? you are aware Williams, Tuitt and Lynch gave us a total of 28 sacks for their entire ND careers combined... but sure... 50

Williams never started, and Aaron left after 1 year. Assuming all 3 would have stayed 3 years, I think 50 is very reasonable. Beal would have 6 in his first year, 8 in year 2, and 10 in year 3. That's 24 there. But I won't hijack the thread more than I have - I think this was for quick updates so I'll check out, sorry OP.
 

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50? you are aware Williams, Tuitt and Lynch gave us a total of 28 sacks for their entire ND careers combined... but sure... 50

Tuitt had 20+ of those sacks. Other two were busts. Get another player on the other side of Tuitt then the point is legit.
 

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Williams never started, and Aaron left after 1 year. Assuming all 3 would have stayed 3 years, I think 50 is very reasonable. Beal would have 6 in his first year, 8 in year 2, and 10 in year 3. That's 24 there. But I won't hijack the thread more than I have - I think this was for quick updates so I'll check out, sorry OP.

Without looking, how many players in Notre Dame history have amassed as many as 24 career sacks?
 

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Werner, Beal, and Jeter as decommits. We've lost 50 sacks in the next 3 years in those 3.

I am pretty sure you know what assuming gets you. I am glad to see CJ stand up and throw that shit back at Jeter. As if he is going to play for a class act haha what fool.
 

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Williams never started, and Aaron left after 1 year. Assuming all 3 would have stayed 3 years, I think 50 is very reasonable. Beal would have 6 in his first year, 8 in year 2, and 10 in year 3. That's 24 there. But I won't hijack the thread more than I have - I think this was for quick updates so I'll check out, sorry OP.

Tuitt- 21.5 Career sacks

Day-7.5 Career sacks

J. Smith 4.5 career sacks

All played at least 3 years of action in some capacity.
 

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Zaire Release Granted.

Notre Dame has granted quarterback Malik Zaire his release from the school, blocking him from all but one school on the Fighting Irish's 2017 schedule.

Zaire told ESPN he learned Wednesday he was given his release, but he said he cannot transfer to teams on Notre Dame's upcoming schedule, with the exception of North Carolina.

Notre Dame plays Temple, Georgia, Boston College, Michigan State, Miami of Ohio, UNC, USC, NC State, Wake Forest, Miami (Florida), Navy and Stanford in 2017.

Zaire is on track to graduate in December and will be eligible immediately next season at whichever school he chooses.
Malik Zaire is barred from transferring to any teams on Notre Dame's 2017 schedule, with the exception of North Carolina. Robin Alam/Icon SMI

Schools that Zaire is looking at include Florida, Michigan State, Pitt and Wisconsin, a source told ESPN.com's Matt Fortuna. However, Michigan State, as a Notre Dame opponent next season, is out of the running.

Zaire won 2014 Music City Bowl MVP honors in his first career start and started the first two games of Notre Dame's 2015 season before suffering a broken right ankle that ended his season. He worked his way back from injury in time for 2016, and Kelly said in preseason camp that Zaire and DeShone Kizer would both play this fall.

Kizer assumed starting duties after both played in the season-opening loss to Texas, however.

Zaire will leave the Fighting Irish with a career 59.2 completion percentage for 816 yards, six touchdowns and zero interceptions. The lefty added 324 rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns. He finished with a 3-0 career record as a starter.
 

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I think it's a dick move by Kelly, restricting MZ and the schools he has to choose from. I'll be rooting for him to do well wherever he ends up, while rooting for Kelly to fail miserably. He's got to go.........the last time I witnessed a coaching job this bad was Willingham, and that's just inexcusable for a Notre Dame football team.
 

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I think it's a dick move by Kelly, restricting MZ and the schools he has to choose from. I'll be rooting for him to do well wherever he ends up, while rooting for Kelly to fail miserably. He's got to go.........the last time I witnessed a coaching job this bad was Willingham, and that's just inexcusable for a Notre Dame football team.

Kelly isn't the only coach that does that. It's funny how Kelly certain issues Kelly is an asshole but other coaches do this and it's a ok.
 

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I think it's a dick move by Kelly, restricting MZ and the schools he has to choose from. I'll be rooting for him to do well wherever he ends up, while rooting for Kelly to fail miserably. He's got to go.........the last time I witnessed a coaching job this bad was Willingham, and that's just inexcusable for a Notre Dame football team.

Honestly I've got no problem telling a kid he can't transfer to a team we play next year. It's not like MZ has any deep ties to Michigan State, does he? And there's still 110 college football programs to choose from.
And BK is hardly the only coach who does this. But go ahead and root for him, and the footba team he's coaching next year, to fail miserably. That'll be real fun.
 

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Kelly isn't the only coach that does that. It's funny how Kelly certain issues Kelly is an asshole but other coaches do this and it's a ok.

Only certain issues? Feels lately like anything Kelly does makes him an asshole to half the people around here.
 

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I'll be rooting for him to do well wherever he ends up, while rooting for Kelly to fail miserably.

The only way for Kelly to really fail miserably, is for the team to fail miserably. So you might want to rethink whether or not you really want to actively root for the team to fail. Just sayin'.....
 
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This is common practice. Bk is a huge ego dude, and I guess not approachable like Jeter said-----BUT many coaches do this. I don't fault him at all. Zaire has to know that watching Kizer that he is a far superior QB, and can't hold that part against bk either. Move on.

But, I see more decommits and transfers before we see any more commits. Bad, bad year. This is in bk. He kept a horrid defensive coor, he got lazy on recruiting,
Coached really badly, play called badly, and basically sucked in every capacity.

Bks arrogance has put ND football in a huge hole. A hole he isn't capable of getting out of. Other schools have risen who were down, which makes more colleges to try to climb over on the top. BK Has lost his passion and drive. Ego has replaced it.

Truly the downfall started when he looked at the eagles.

Hope it changes. But, the negative recruiting, bad season, and the rest is too much for BK to over come. Heart, energy, positivity, drive look to be gone. His ego has taken over.
 

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The only way for Kelly to really fail miserably, is for the team to fail miserably. So you might want to rethink whether or not you really want to actively root for the team to fail. Just sayin'.....

And if anyone wants that to happen you have to question them as fan.
 
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Williams never started, and Aaron left after 1 year. Assuming all 3 would have stayed 3 years, I think 50 is very reasonable. Beal would have 6 in his first year, 8 in year 2, and 10 in year 3. That's 24 there. But I won't hijack the thread more than I have - I think this was for quick updates so I'll check out, sorry OP.

Good lord Koon...those are lofty stats you're throwing out there for a 17/18 year old kid still in HS. Sure, he'll probably be a great player. PROBABLY. You know how many 5 star players don't pan out? Projecting sack totals is a little silly I'd say.
 

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And if anyone wants that to happen you have to question them as fan.

Question me all you want, but after the $hit show that was this past season, do you honestly believe Kelly will turn it around????? This was quite possibly one of the easiest schedules they've had in the past 10 years, and he $hit the bed. I've watched a lot of ND football through the years, and while not as much as others, this was one of the absolute most painful to have to watch.
 
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Only certain issues? Feels lately like anything Kelly does makes him an asshole to half the people around here.

Thank you. Kelly didn't commit 8 false starts this year. McGlinchey did. Kelly didn't throw a disgusting pick six in the third quarter against USC. Kizer did. Kelly didn't not manage to get off a single block all year, Trumbetti......Kelly didn't get caught with a loaded hand gun and weed in August, Max did. I can go on and on. Kelly didn't replace BVG in the off season. That was a mistake. He didn't go for it on a few 4th downs late in one-score games and I didn't like that. I didn't like some play calling but I'm not certain if that all lies on Kelly as Sanford and Denbrock are heavily involved in that. At the end of the day, Kelly is a good football coach and is well liked by his players and is very well suited for the ND football HC job. I honestly think Kelly and co. are experienced enough and certainly smart and capable enough to fix the problems with this team as good as anyone could with the talent there is on the roster. It was one bad season. We return a TON of talent/starters and have a great class coming in. Give the guy a chance.

(Sorry for the long rant but I'm so sick of the Kelly bashing)

GO IRISH
 

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This is common practice. Bk is a huge ego dude, and I guess not approachable like Jeter said-----BUT many coaches do this. I don't fault him at all. Zaire has to know that watching Kizer that he is a far superior QB, and can't hold that part against bk either. Move on.

But, I see more decommits and transfers before we see any more commits. Bad, bad year. This is in bk. He kept a horrid defensive coor, he got lazy on recruiting,
Coached really badly, play called badly, and basically sucked in every capacity.

Bks arrogance has put ND football in a huge hole. A hole he isn't capable of getting out of. Other schools have risen who were down, which makes more colleges to try to climb over on the top. BK Has lost his passion and drive. Ego has replaced it.

Truly the downfall started when he looked at the eagles.

Hope it changes. But, the negative recruiting, bad season, and the rest is too much for BK to over come. Heart, energy, positivity, drive look to be gone. His ego has taken over.



Very well written. Reps


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2017 Captain Talk

The Leadership Question
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Yesterday at 3:04 PM

After facing an uphill climb in leadership this season, at least a couple new captains and a different supporting cast will be asked to step forward to help turn around Notre Dame. The Irish already have names in mind.

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Mike McGlinchey will be back as a captain.

But beyond the left tackle the Irish will require some leadership reinvention to get the program off the mat following a 4-8 season that applied pressure virtually everywhere. Torii Hunter Jr.’s future may be trending away from Notre Dame following graduation despite a fifth-year option, while James Onwualu and Isaac Rochell wrapped up their eligibility last weekend.

That’s one captain back and three likely gone, plus cornerback Cole Luke, who helped bring along four freshman defensive backs who played prominent roles this season. It all makes identifying leadership this offseason critical for Brian Kelly, even amidst a host of other issues to sort.

“I think we’ve got some guys that are already showing leadership capabilities,” said Kelly earlier this month. “Not to give any guys the Captain’s “C” but Greer Martini, Drue Tranquill, Nyles Morgan, those are three guys that stand out to me and have done a really good job of leading immediately. I think we’re going to be in pretty good shape.”

It’s hard to imagine Morgan not being voted a captain after leading Notre Dame with 94 tackles and four sacks in his fist real fulltime role. Morgan evolved into a future captain during the season by understanding how different players respond to different messages at different volumes.

That figures to play well considering neither Onwualu nor Rochell were outsized personalities within the defense this season in the molds of Joe Schmidt, Manti Te’o or Kapron Lewis-Moore before them.

“Nyles is a leader now,” Rochell said. “But I’ll be curious to see how they handle it in the spring because I think it will be weird looking around and not seeing us.

“It’s not like Nyles is gonna have to do it all. Someone will step up on the D-line for sure, a DB will step up for sure. Nick (Watkins) is coming back, maybe it’s him, I don’t know.”

Morgan advocated for Tranquill as his running mate next season based on the personality mix, which could also give the Irish a couple senior captains. Tranquill finished behind only Morgan in tackles this season with 79 despite and up-and-down year in that department.

“Drue has a voice,” Morgan said. “I can see him stepping up into that role. He kind of likes the limelight. He likes that stuff. Me, I’m just kind of like make sure everything is working. If it works, you won’t hear my voice too much. Make sure guys are motivated, make sure guys are doing their thing.

“Drue’s the one that wants to get up there, in front of the lights, do his thing. That’s fine. You need that too. There’s all typed of leadership, different ways to get to guys. I really see him coming on as a leader.”

Kelly wants to enhance the roster’s leadership below the captains too, which was a struggle last season for a team that went so young at receiver and defensive back.

That could mean Equanimeous St. Brown, Julian Love and Daelin Hayes do more next season than just get a year older.

“What we’ll do is let younger players lead,” Kelly said. “If they’re ready to lead, we won’t hold them back from leading. What I’ve tried to do after this year is encourage younger players with natural leadership ability – I’ve spent more time allowing them to go ahead and lead.

“I don’t want to close the door for younger players to lead if they’re capable of leading.”

Notre Dame won’t name its next crew of captains until August, but it’s clear whatever leadership track the Irish take next season will start much sooner. Notre Dame needs a new direction and needs a new batch of leaders to provide it, starting now.
 
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