Quarterback Competition Update (4-11-11)

FightingIrishLover7

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I haven't seen this posted anywhere, and I wanted to make sure this is easy to find.

It's an excellent break down of the QBs by Coach Molnar.
He breaks down all their strengths.

He really likes Dayne.
Golson and Hendrix also got a lot of praise.

Rees seemed to get the least love (not intentionally). Molnar just said he's stronger. That's it.
Golson is way ahead of schedule.
Andrew has a great understanding of the game.
Dayne's footwork and decision making have soared.


This competition is making me very excited. Can't wait til the B&G game.

PS) Watch Golson's throw at 2:02.... laser pass right on target, beautiful throw.
 

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So basically, we have 4 guys who are starter-caliber.

I like that.

Thanks for posting that vid!
 
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Anybody else get the feeling that Andrew Hendrix will be the back up to Dayne Crist against USF.
 

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Anybody else get the feeling that Andrew Hendrix will be the back up to Dayne Crist against USF.

Maybe on the depth chart.

If Crist goes down against USF (God forbid), I'm 90% sure Tommy Rees will be going in before Andrew Hendrix.
 

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^ this this this

BTW Does anyone else really hate the way Nolan says "the Fighting Irish Football Team?" It gets on my nerves, I don't know why.

I concur. He reminds of Tom Hammond in a lot of ways. A much, much better Hammond, but still a lot of the same characteristics.
 

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^ this this this

BTW Does anyone else really hate the way Nolan says "the Fighting Irish Football Team?" It gets on my nerves, I don't know why.

I always have the volume up too high when the videos start and I have him screaming in my ear.

I concur. He reminds of Tom Hammond in a lot of ways. A much, much better Hammond, but still a lot of the same characteristics.

NOOOOOOOOOO!

I'm sure Jack Nolan would never mistake James Aldridge for Barry Gallup Jr. (Pitt, '08), see a flash of yellow and exclaim that there is a "fag" down in the endzone (Mich, '08), talk about previous plays while the current play is underway, repeat everything Mike Mayock says (a newly acquired skill for Hammond), etc.
 

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I'm sure Jack Nolan would never mistake James Aldridge for Barry Gallup Jr. (Pitt, '08), see a flash of yellow and exclaim that there is a "fag" down in the endzone (Mich, '08), talk about previous plays while the current play is underway, repeat everything Mike Mayock says (a newly acquired skill for Hammond), etc.

LMAO!
 

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I still would wager a good deal of my vBucks that Crist will start, Hendrix will have a package that accounts for ~15% of the offense's snaps, Rees will be Crist's backup, and Golson will save his eligibility this year (redshirt). If Crist is hurt again, Rees would take over the Crist role, but the Hendrix package would be expanded, maybe even to the point where it is the primary package. That has been my take since before spring practices started, and I'm going to stick with it.
 

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i like hearing that Golson is already ahead of the game, really shows what kelly can do with a guy in only a few weeks
 

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I still would wager a good deal of my vBucks that Crist will start, Hendrix will have a package that accounts for ~15% of the offense's snaps, Rees will be Crist's backup, and Golson will save his eligibility this year (redshirt). If Crist is hurt again, Rees would take over the Crist role, but the Hendrix package would be expanded, maybe even to the point where it is the primary package. That has been my take since before spring practices started, and I'm going to stick with it.

Why would anyone bet against that? That seems like it could happen.
 

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yah i'd go with rhode irish, although maybe drop that to 10% so you would have about 80% dayne 10-15% andrew and about 5-10% with Wood or Theo in a wildcat
 

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As rhode irish and GreatDayne said, there will almost be a spot on the depth chart for QBa and QBb. Crist and Rees will be the two deep for QBa and Hendrix and Golson will be the two deep for QBb
 

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crist is our starter and hendrix will back him up....and yada, yada, yada
 
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yah i'd go with rhode irish, although maybe drop that to 10% so you would have about 80% dayne 10-15% andrew and about 5-10% with Wood or Theo in a wildcat

I don't see Hendrix/Rees getting any snaps unless the game's in hand. If they redshirt Golson, the starter will get all of the reps in a game that's still undecided. I just don't see Crist in the heat of the game coming out every 8th play so that Hendrix/Rees can take some snaps. Just my opinion.
 

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SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Facing a four-man battle for Notre Dame's starting quarterback position, Brian Kelly has enough trouble keeping an eye on each player during practice. But the Fighting Irish coach has raised the stakes on even that challenge; this spring he can watch his quarterbacks' eyes during every play.

Kelly is employing every available mode of technology to evaluate his quarterbacks during spring practice. They're wearing helmet cameras and being graded for their work using a PlayStation-like simulator, which tests their knowledge of Notre Dame's offense and opponents' defenses.


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Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly has a four-man QB battle heading into spring practice.
"You're always looking for a competitive advantage," Kelly said. "To have four quarterbacks, if you're going to give them all a fair chance, you have to use every method possible to track their progress."

Kelly probably won't name a starting quarterback until shortly before the Fighting Irish open the season against USF at Notre Dame Stadium on Sept. 3. Senior Dayne Crist and sophomore Tommy Rees started games last season, and sophomore Andrew Hendrix and freshman Everett Golson are more mobile yet inexperienced options.

Heading into Saturday's Blue-Gold spring game, Kelly said he is already leaning toward playing more than one quarterback this coming season, but he's still evaluating which quarterbacks he'll use.

"I'd say it's probably a given," Kelly said of possibly playing more than one quarterback. "I'm like everybody else. I'd like to have one go-to guy and he's your guy. But where we are right now, it lends itself to playing more than one quarterback."

Crist, from Canoga Park, Calif., started the first nine games in 2010 before suffering a season-ending knee injury for the second time in as many years. Crist threw for 2,033 yards with 15 touchdowns and seven interceptions, leading the Irish to a 4-5 record in games he started.

Less than six months after undergoing surgery to repair a ruptured patellar tendon in his left knee, Crist has been able to participate in every aspect of spring practice.

"You're talking about two huge injuries," Kelly said. "He's a different guy than he was at this time last year. He's different because he doesn't have the entire weight of the 'Notre Dame Nation' on his shoulders. The weight is gone. He's not worrying about being the savior; he's thinking about how he's going to get on the field."

"I don't even notice it," Crist said about the injury. "I'm wearing a brace, but it doesn't even protect what I had repaired. There never has been any residual soreness. I feel very good."

Rees, from Lake Forest, Ill., started the final four games of 2010 after Crist was hurt, leading the Irish to consecutive victories over Utah, Army and Southern California to end the regular season, followed by a win over Miami in the Sun Bowl. Rees completed 61 percent of his passes for 1,106 yards with 12 touchdowns and eight interceptions.

"[Rees] is going to drive 55 mph," Kelly said. "He's not going to get you a ticket, but he's not going to drive 80 mph, either. He's going to manage the game and has a penchant for making plays. He really doesn't do anything stupid. He's going to make some mistakes and get some balls batted down, but he's not going to do anything catastrophic."

Hendrix, from Cincinnati, and Golson, an early enrollee from Myrtle Beach, S.C., are more prototypical quarterbacks for a spread offense. Both are capable of throwing the ball or running on any given play.

"The other two kids are exciting," Kelly said. "They can do a lot of things."

Evaluating each of Notre Dame's quarterbacks this spring has been Kelly's challenge.

"It's a lot of teaching and a lot of learning," Kelly said. "We're really trying to do two things in one. We're spreading it out with Hendrix and Golson. We've had to do more than just classroom instruction."



A few hours after practice on April 6, Kelly, Crist and Rees gathered in a meeting room on the bottom floor of the Guglielmino Athletics Complex. They reviewed film from that morning's practice, with the quarterbacks' helmet cams giving Kelly an action-level view.

More than anything else, Kelly preaches to his quarterbacks about finding what he calls a "movement key" -- a particular player on defense, whose actions will indicate how the play is going to progress -- immediately after taking every snap.

"Get your eyes on your movement key," Kelly said. "Your movement key takes you through your progressions. You're guessing if you can't get your eyes on the movement key, and I don't like guessing."

On one passing play, Kelly watches the play develop through Crist's helmet cam. There are other angles available from overhead remote cameras.

Crist's movement key on one particular play is safety Harrison Smith.

"We're putting two guys on the weak safety," Kelly said.

The helmet cam shows Crist's eyes drifting to the right, while Smith stayed to his left.

"Be careful," Kelly told Crist.

"I would like to see him move on Harrison to freeze him," Kelly said. "We would like to have seen him hold the safety a little more with his eyes."

On another play, Notre Dame's offense uses two crossing routes to create a 3-on-2 opportunity in the middle of the field.

"He's got a good picture," Kelly said. "As long as he kept these two players in his vision, he's not guessing."

Notre Dame's game simulator is equally as innovative. XOS Digital, a Florida-based company that provides audio and visual systems to hundreds of college and NFL teams, created software in which the Irish can load their offense and opponents' defenses into a PlayStation game.

During the meeting with Kelly and Crist, Rees grabbed a PlayStation remote and began reading Miami's defense. The Irish defeated the Hurricanes 33-17 in the Sun Bowl on New Year's Eve.

Before Rees could snap the ball, he was quizzed about his presnap reads. Notre Dame's quarterbacks must correctly answer questions about pass coverage, protections and potential blitzes before snapping the ball.

"It's a good tool to have the night before a game," Rees said. "It's a good thing to use as a refresher."

Before taking a snap on a play called "North Squeeze 63 Dolphin," Rees was asked to identify Miami's pass coverage. His options were: Cover 4, Tampa 2 or 2 Man. After correctly identifying the coverage, Rees had to throw to the correct receiver.

"It's pretty cool to see that play because we ran it in the bowl game and it turned out the same way," Rees said.

On another play -- "Cowboy East Win 52 Hank Snap" -- Rees is asked to identify Miami's blitz package because the Irish lined up in a no-back formation.

"It's absolutely critical our guys understand where their protection is," Kelly said. "You can have all the talent in the world, but if you don't know your protection, you can't get into no-backs."

The simulator is also capable of producing a field-level view, which is very similar to the helmet cams.

"It's almost like how we're going to see it on Saturday," Crist said.

Kelly said the simulator might be most valuable on the night before an actual game, when he can use it to test his quarterback's knowledge of Notre Dame's game plan and an opponent's defense.

"Now it's not just a term you're talking to them about, it's something they can actually see," Kelly said. "I can tell them all they need in the meeting, but they need to see it. It's just a tool. It still comes down to work ethic, habits and skills."

Now Kelly and his coaches can see what their quarterbacks see like never before.


Mark Schlabach covers college sports for ESPN.com. You can contact him at schlabachma@yahoo.com.

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I don't see Hendrix/Rees getting any snaps unless the game's in hand. If they redshirt Golson, the starter will get all of the reps in a game that's still undecided. I just don't see Crist in the heat of the game coming out every 8th play so that Hendrix/Rees can take some snaps. Just my opinion.


I don't think they would change QB's midseries, but I could see them going to the spread offense for an entire series once a game, or maybe even once a half, depending on circumstances. If they have that offense installed (and they do/will), it gives them a great advantage in the week leading into the game where the other team has to devote more time to scheming to defend a different offense than ND would have to spend to gameplan a series or two of an offense they already have installed. And during the course of the game, if the opponent makes an adjustment and begins having success or if the offense is stalled out a little and needs a change of pace, I could definitely see them going to the spread to change up the defense's look a little bit. Obviously I can't guarantee it, but that is my best guess and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see it play out that way.
 
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I don't think they would change QB's midseries, but I could see them going to the spread offense for an entire series once a game, or maybe even once a half, depending on circumstances. If they have that offense installed (and they do/will), it gives them a great advantage in the week leading into the game where the other team has to devote more time to scheming to defend a different offense than ND would have to spend to gameplan a series or two of an offense they already have installed. And during the course of the game, if the opponent makes an adjustment and begins having success or if the offense is stalled out a little and needs a change of pace, I could definitely see them going to the spread to change up the defense's look a little bit. Obviously I can't guarantee it, but that is my best guess and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see it play out that way.

I can see the advantage of having a 'spread quarterback' run a series to throw the defense off. But is Hendrix THAT much faster than Crist where he'd be that much better in the spread? I don't know... Then, let's say you have Hendrix come in for a series and tear it up. Then you pull him out? Keep him in? At that point you're waffling and you don't want your starting QB having to look over his shoulder and wonder if he's going to lose his PT/Starting Role. Starting QB needs to know he's 'the man' in my opinion.

I'm not saying that a spread look with Hendrix wouldn't throw the defense off or be successful, I'm just saying you want your starting QB to know he's the man and he can play fearless. To me, it wouldn't be worth it to have Crist worrying about losing his PT. He's been through enough.
 
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I can see the advantage of having a 'spread quarterback' run a series to throw the defense off. But is Hendrix THAT much faster than Crist where he'd be that much better in the spread? I don't know... Then, let's say you have Hendrix come in for a series and tear it up. Then you pull him out? Keep him in? At that point you're waffling and you don't want your starting QB having to look over his shoulder and wonder if he's going to lose his PT/Starting Role. Starting QB needs to know he's 'the man' in my opinion.

I'm not saying that a spread look with Hendrix wouldn't throw the defense off or be successful, I'm just saying you want your starting QB to know he's the man and he can play fearless. To me, it wouldn't be worth it to have Crist worrying about losing his PT. He's been through enough.

Valid concerns, but Hendrix can move! Especially for a white boy :yes:
 
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Valid concerns, but Hendrix can move! Especially for a white boy :yes:

Hey, at least we have this problem, lol.. Unlike last year when we didn't even know who was going to take the next snap when Crist went down vs. Michigan. I still think it's best that whoever wins the job (cough, Crist), we stick with him unless the games in hand. in order to build his confidence, but each idea has its pros.
 

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Hey, at least we have this problem, lol.. Unlike last year when we didn't even know who was going to take the next snap when Crist went down vs. Michigan. I still think it's best that whoever wins the job (cough, Crist), we stick with him unless the games in hand. in order to build his confidence, but each idea has its pros.

When the wildcat offense became all the rage in the NFL a few seasons ago, a few Patriots fans wanted the Pats to install a wildcat package. That idea was obviously crazy, because you just don't take the QB off the field when you have a QB like Tom Brady. So if you regard Crist that way, I can totally see where you're coming from. I'm a BIG Crist fan, but I just don't think he has arrived at that level. If he proves in the first few games of the season that he is having a Hiesman-worthy year, I'd be fine with scrapping the Hendrix/option package. But until I see Crist prove he is so good he cannot come off the field, I like the idea of getting Hendrix some game reps and giving the defense a different look and something else to prepare for. Especially considering how injury-prone Crist has been, I think there are some advantages to doing most of the spread/option stuff during the small number of plays that he is holding a clipboard.
 

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Crist starts the first 6 games getting a slight injury in 2 of the games. Hendrix gets put in as back up and shows great ability to manage a run heavy offense. He is thrusted into the USC game as starter because Crist was injured during bye week. Comes out guns a blazing! Pulls a Rees esque game to pull off the win. Hendrix is then injured mid way 2nd quarter of Wake Forest. in steps Rees. Manages game enough to get us a heavy lead. Golson (who has been pulling a series here and there all season) steps in for some valuable reps. Rees and Golson tag team Maryland and we are in BCS game against Oklahoma. Not sure who to prepare for because both Hendrix and Crist are fully recovered we throw Golson in to start. He comes out feet rolling before he hits the ground. Seven minutes into the game Sooners are confused, tired from over pursuing, not prepared fully for a runner with a flick to receivers that stretch the field further, we start to dominate. Now running all 3 QB in the BCS game keeping Sooners on their toes, we roll.

BOOM .... thats your QB issue in a nutshell!?!?!!!??


Next year .... if we can land DGB ... I dont give a damn who our QB is. He wont miss!
 
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