Post Game Observations

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Again, I see people very quick to push Tommy Rees out the door to get a "real" QB behind center. Maybe it's worth considering that Rees is a whole-is-greater-than-the-sum-of-the-parts type of QB, like, say, Joe Montana. Montana wasn't huge, didn't have a canon arm, wasn't much of a breakout run threat, but somehow managed to be one of the best QBs in NFL history. Some guys can have natural athletic ability out the wazoo but can never be much more than above average. And other guys, despite not having any standout physical ability, can achieve greatness. I'm not saying Rees is the 2nd coming of Montana, but he's impressing more and more with every snap he takes. And he'll likely only get better.
 
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I find your lack of faith disturbing.

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Come on man, upgrade to a .gif.

This one's free. :)
 

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This seriously got merged with another thread?

You do realize that I'll be doing this for every game right? I had the same thread last season and it wasn't merged.

WTF?
 

IrishJayhawk

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This seriously got merged with another thread?

You do realize that I'll be doing this for every game right? I had the same thread last season and it wasn't merged.

WTF?

There were like 20 threads doing the same thing yesterday. The mods are trying to clean up the front page. You're fine.
 

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I wonder what Billy Beane would say about Rees v. Crist -

prob that Crist has the body, has the face, and has the arm, but that Rees gets the job done.
 

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I am for Rees. He is an overachiever, and this team needs someone like that too look up too. Crist, great kid, just doesn't have whats needed to win.

The good part: ND was not outcoached/outschemed/ or beaten by better athletes. They beat themselves. While that is not good for September 3rd, it is good for the future. 508 years of total offense is ridiculous, the offense was/is there...they just have to play disciplined and not make careless mistakes. 5 Turnovers, and we lost by 3. SF is a good team, they aren't great, but are a solid squad.

The Bad: Well, the game was so ugly that it looked too ugly to have even been fixed. That was the worst case scenario, everything went wrong. If you take out half of the mental errors ND wins by 17.

While that was very depressing, ND looks good between the 5's.
 

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This seriously got merged with another thread?

You do realize that I'll be doing this for every game right? I had the same thread last season and it wasn't merged.

WTF?

LOL...I get about 30 requests to clean up the board. I merged or moved or even deleted a ton of threads, and yet you're the only who complained.

Let me ask you this...what made your thoughts any more special than the 251 responses to one of the other "postgame thoughts" threads had? Should each and every one of those posters have started a new thread to post their thoughts, so they could somehow stick out more than your post? What's the difference?

Last year, when your thread was started, there was maybe one or 2 other threads about postgame observations, not 10-12. So it was all good. This morning, yours was one of several that got moved...you were the only one to b!tch about it, because obviously you think your comments are more important than other posters' comments, and therefore are beneath you to be in the same thread as kmoose's.

Look, I know you still believe you did nothing wrong when you were given your short vacation (which could/should have been a lot longer) and told me as much, but this ain't personal. And I tell you what...just say the word and I'll give you your own personal thread back, so everyone can see it and give you your due.

But dude, think about it...in the end, is it really THAT big of a deal?
 
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IrishTimer

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Let me ask you this...what made your thoughts any more special than the 251 responses to one of the other "postgame thoughts" threads had?
1. They are mine and therefore inherently special.

2. I had the same thread last year. It was never merged, never even touched. It's obviously a "series" or sorts I'm running. It's like I'm just randomly patching together thoughts for random games or something I just do on a whim.




Last year, when your thread was started, there was maybe one or 2 other threads about postgame observations, not 10-12.
Which should tell you something...As the season goes on those other threads will die off and go away. Mine will stay. Merging a thread that is what I was hoping to be an annual "series" so to speak with a bunch of half assed observation threads makes no sense.

So it was all good. This morning, yours was one of several that got moved...you were the only one to b!tch about it
Ok.

Does that mean I'm wrong in my stance? No.
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because obviously you think your comments are more important than other posters' comments, and therefore are beneath you to be in the same thread as kmoose's.
Nice try. But no.

Look, I know you still believe you did nothing wrong when you were given your short vacation
LOL at you claiming you "know" what I'm thinking at all.

For the record: I fully expected the ban. I never proclaimed innocence here or anywhere else, let alone in my mind. If you'd like proof of that PM me and I'll send you a link.
(which could/should have been a lot longer) and told me as much,
I told you no such thing. If you took my comments in my PM that way then that's your interpretation. That's not the way it was meant.
And I tell you what...just say the word and I'll give you your own personal thread back, so everyone can see it and give you your due.
"the word"

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Thnx.
 

NDinL.A.

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1. They are mine and therefore inherently special.

See, to me, they are not special. At least, they aren't any more special than the other posters' posts, as they have excellent thoughts that I enjoy reading. You're special in your mind, which is fine, but no more special than the other guys (who incidentally, didn't bitch when their threads were moved).

2. I had the same thread last year. It was never merged, never even touched. It's obviously a "series" or sorts I'm running. It's like I'm just randomly patching together thoughts for random games or something I just do on a whim.

That was already explained. I can't help you when you don't read what my explanations are. That's a you problem.

Which should tell you something...As the season goes on those other threads will die off and go away. Mine will stay.

First of all, you can't tell me whose threads are going to disappear and whose are going to stay on as a 'series'. Nice try though.

Secondly, I could give a rat's arse if you are trying to start some sort of 'series'. This site isn't designed for you to start some 'series' where we'll have to leave that thread alone because we can't interfere with your 'series'. If you want to start a 'series', just create a blog, and then you can start a thread showing us a link to your blog. Oh, and the way you treat other posters, and considering that you've already been banned once, how do you know yours 'will stay'???

Merging a thread that is what I was hoping to be an annual "series" so to speak with a bunch of half assed observation threads makes no sense.

Again, your hubris is laughable. Bagging on other posters for their 'half-assed' observation threads, while thinking yours is all that. kmoose has been doing these far longer than you, and I always enjoy his postgame thoughts. If anything, he's the one who should be bitching that I put your 'half-assed observations' in HIS threads. Fortunately, he's not like that.

Does that mean I'm wrong in my stance? No.

Yup. Your thread was one of 20 that got moved. It wasn't a big deal to anyone but you, as you are trying to start your 'series', and this hurts your agenda.

I told you no such thing. If you took my comments in my PM that way then that's your interpretation. That's not the way it was meant.
That's the exact was it came off. Go read it again.

"the word"

Close, but not quite there.
 

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See, to me, they are not special. At least, they aren't any more special than the other posters' posts, as they have excellent thoughts that I enjoy reading. You're special in your mind, which is fine, but no more special than the other guys (who incidentally, didn't bitch when their threads were moved).
Again, those guys NOT complaining doesn't make the initial action correct.



That was already explained. I can't help you when you don't read what my explanations are. That's a you problem.
And I already explained the massive lapse in your logic/reasoning.



First of all, you can't tell me whose threads are going to disappear and whose are going to stay on as a 'series'. Nice try though.
It's not like I'm basing it off nothing. I'm basing it off the information gathered from last season that YOU brought up. Essentially you are saying I should just keep all these compiled until midway through the season when there aren't as many game observation threads, THEN post the thread and there is no issue. So again the issue isn't the "specialness" of the posts or thoughts it's the timing. If it was a "specialness" of thoughts issue my thread would have been merged last year instead of being thanked by an admin.

Pick a theory.

Oh, and the way you treat other posters, and considering that you've already been banned once, how do you know yours 'will stay'???
Because I'll post in it every week? Where else would it go?



Again, your hubris is laughable. Bagging on other posters for their 'half-assed' observation threads, while thinking yours is all that. kmoose has been doing these far longer than you, and I always enjoy his postgame thoughts. If anything, he's the one who should be bitching that I put your 'half-assed observations' in HIS threads.
Maybe he's been beaten down by life while I'm still young and virile.



Yup. Your thread was one of 20 that got moved. It wasn't a big deal to anyone but you, as you are trying to start your 'series', and this hurts your agenda.
World domination is no small agenda.


That's the exact was it came off.
And that's your issue not mine.
Go read it again.
I don't have to "read it again". I wrote it. LOL at me saying I'll still smack around LAX, except within the TOS, as me saying I was "innocent".
Here is my PM to you:
If IrishLAX wants to keep jumping in partially through conversations and making terrible arguments I'll keep smacking him into place. I suppose I'll do it with in the terms of service though.


Also, as far as personnel attacks go it was really nice to see people asking "can't we just shoot JayRock/IrishTimer?" after I was temp banned.

Yeah that's really me saying I didn't do anything to get banned.

Again, you want proof that I didn't proclaim innocence? PM me and I'll send you links. As of now you're dodging that answer.



Close, but not quite there.

:yawn:

Pretty please with cherries on top?
 
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2. I had the same thread last year. It was never merged, never even touched. It's obviously a "series" or sorts I'm running. It's like I'm just randomly patching together thoughts for random games or something I just do on a whim.

If you look at my profile, you'll see that I started the first "Post Game Observations....", back in 2009. Don't be confused by that "WR du jour" guy who has tried to rip off my series. What's the point of starting a thread? To stimulate discussion. Does it really matter if your thought provoking thread was moved, as long as the discussion takes place? Isn't that what you are after, or are you just trying to be popular by having a popular thread?
 

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I'll add my thoughts, although I was at the game and it's sometimes harder to evaluate some things in comparison to seeing it on the tube.

1. Keep Tommy in over Crist. I was thinking this at the start of the season, for several reasons. For one, Tommy is just more accurate most of the time. Crist may be more athletic, but it's not like we're calling any QB designed run plays when either Tommy or Dayne are in. Theres injury concerns with Crist as well unfortunately. I hand it to him for coming back from two major knee injuries the last two seasons, and a head injury during the Michigan game last year, but I cringe every time I see him take a hit now. While Tommy may not always be a perfect QB, he's just a Sophomore and is expected to make a few mistakes, he can and will improve even more. Crist is unfortunately making the same mistakes he make last year, and he should be more polished for a Senior.

2. Wood is impressive. If we didn't have to rely on the pass the entier 2nd quarter, who knows how many yards he would have racked up. He pulled off over 100 yards in pretty much just the first two quarters. I look forward to the rest of the season and hope he can continue to put up these numbers. To go along with this, offensive line was excellent. We're driving people off the ball and making holes, thats how we can win games.

3. Riddick...should be moved back to RB I think, for two reasons. Gray still has ball control problems, and it was extremely costly Saturday. Gray was supposed to be our replacement for Hughes. He may not be as big, but he has more speed. Unfortunately Gray has always had some concerns holding onto the football, and I think it's time to move him to 3rd string. As far as Riddick, I just don't think he has the catching ability like Golden Tate developed. Tate was able to make the transition to WR, but Riddick hasn't improved enough to warrant a starting WR spot imo. We could really use him back at RB though to share carries with Wood, he's still electric when the ball is actually in his hands.

4. I didn't see much of the freshmen defenders from the stands, but when they were in there I didn't see any glaring mistakes. Looking forward to seeing more of Lynch and company, I didn't think they'd get in there as early and often as they did, I expected they'd see early playing time though once the game was more in our control.

5. Floyd was impressive as always, glad he decided to return although I had hoped he would live up to his freshman promise and stay all four years. More than anything, it's a good thing we have him because the other WR's weren't all that impressive. TJ may have made a couple mistakes, but he was probably the clear #2 receiver considering that Eifert is a true TE and won't see as many pass attempts in most cases. I've already stated my thoughts on Riddick above. I'd like to see more out of Jones, and maybe see Davarius Daniels or someone else like Toma step up.

6. Special Teams...attrocious. Punting was bad, our only Field Goal was a miss (I give Ruffer a pass though, he's automatic 99% of the time), I don't even have to talk about Punt Returns. Kickoff coverage wasn't horrible, there were a few good plays. Kickoff Return was probably the best on Special Teams only because I didn't see any glaring mistakes.
 

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Does anyone know where I can find a link to the game? I missed the 2H because of the UF game here and would really like to watch it to see the differences said here in this thread.
 

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Because Copy+Paste isn't possible?

Nothing to do with that. When dealing with people that are starved for attention (and don't even lie and say you're not starved for attention...just look at your behavior when I had the nerve to merge your thread with someone's you felt was beneath you), 99.99999% of the time they will link you to their blog. So in my mind there is about less than a 1% chance that you have a blog pertaining to ND football.

If you did have a ND blog, we'd know about it. Your behavior says it all. Nice try though sport.
 

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I'll add my thoughts, although I was at the game and it's sometimes harder to evaluate some things in comparison to seeing it on the tube.

1. Keep Tommy in over Crist. I was thinking this at the start of the season, for several reasons. For one, Tommy is just more accurate most of the time. Crist may be more athletic, but it's not like we're calling any QB designed run plays when either Tommy or Dayne are in. Theres injury concerns with Crist as well unfortunately. I hand it to him for coming back from two major knee injuries the last two seasons, and a head injury during the Michigan game last year, but I cringe every time I see him take a hit now. While Tommy may not always be a perfect QB, he's just a Sophomore and is expected to make a few mistakes, he can and will improve even more. Crist is unfortunately making the same mistakes he make last year, and he should be more polished for a Senior.

2. Wood is impressive. If we didn't have to rely on the pass the entier 2nd quarter, who knows how many yards he would have racked up. He pulled off over 100 yards in pretty much just the first two quarters. I look forward to the rest of the season and hope he can continue to put up these numbers. To go along with this, offensive line was excellent. We're driving people off the ball and making holes, thats how we can win games.

3. Riddick...should be moved back to RB I think, for two reasons. Gray still has ball control problems, and it was extremely costly Saturday. Gray was supposed to be our replacement for Hughes. He may not be as big, but he has more speed. Unfortunately Gray has always had some concerns holding onto the football, and I think it's time to move him to 3rd string. As far as Riddick, I just don't think he has the catching ability like Golden Tate developed. Tate was able to make the transition to WR, but Riddick hasn't improved enough to warrant a starting WR spot imo. We could really use him back at RB though to share carries with Wood, he's still electric when the ball is actually in his hands.

4. I didn't see much of the freshmen defenders from the stands, but when they were in there I didn't see any glaring mistakes. Looking forward to seeing more of Lynch and company, I didn't think they'd get in there as early and often as they did, I expected they'd see early playing time though once the game was more in our control.

5. Floyd was impressive as always, glad he decided to return although I had hoped he would live up to his freshman promise and stay all four years. More than anything, it's a good thing we have him because the other WR's weren't all that impressive. TJ may have made a couple mistakes, but he was probably the clear #2 receiver considering that Eifert is a true TE and won't see as many pass attempts in most cases. I've already stated my thoughts on Riddick above. I'd like to see more out of Jones, and maybe see Davarius Daniels or someone else like Toma step up.

6. Special Teams...attrocious. Punting was bad, our only Field Goal was a miss (I give Ruffer a pass though, he's automatic 99% of the time), I don't even have to talk about Punt Returns. Kickoff coverage wasn't horrible, there were a few good plays. Kickoff Return was probably the best on Special Teams only because I didn't see any glaring mistakes.



1. Agree. Tommy is the future, which I am not worried about. He can manage the game, and his arm strength isn't that bad. He can throw the deep ball well, and can still find the window in the 15-20 yard post/fades.

2. Wood is money

3. I disagree, we need Theo to develop as a receiver because we lack a viable threat outside of MF. Plus, next year, with our schedule, we don't want to be green in our receiving corp. He'll be fine, he had a bad game, he'll be alright. He can obviously catch the ball, otherwise he wouldn't still be a reciever after a year.

4.Lynch looked good, didn't really see Tuitt, I was watching from my iphone so I couldve missed him.

5. MF is a animal. If we can get him help, 508 yards of offense will be the norm, and we'll score points.

6. Special Teams are a disgrace
 

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Nothing to do with that. When dealing with people that are starved for attention (and don't even lie and say you're not starved for attention...just look at your behavior when I had the nerve to merge your thread with someone's you felt was beneath you)
That had more to do with questioning your moderating "abilities" and logic.
99.99999% of the time they will link you to their blog
As I've already covered I'm very unique and special.
So in my mind
Is this the same mind where you incorrectly believed I felt I was innocent? Because if so we've already proved that's not a reliable source for information.

If you did have a ND blog, we'd know about it.
Who says you don't?


My point that if you want internet business do a blog, here it is about ND, not your ego or business

.....Srs?
 

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Does anyone know where I can find a link to the game? I missed the 2H because of the UF game here and would really like to watch it to see the differences said here in this thread.

nbcsports.com "Notre Dame Central" has the entire replay available.
 
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