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Bull shyte!! Early in the 4th quarter, it was 27-21, Oklahoma. One stop by the D, and one more TD by the O, and ND is winning. Instead, the Defense barfs all over itself and gives up a 5 play, 75 yard TD drive.

Or if we don't give up 21 points on TRs ****ing turnovers we are up 21-7 and the defense making a stop is irrelevant. The fans persistent attempts to justify Rees is baffling. HE BLOWS! It's not his fault he just simply isn't talented enough to compete at a BCS level. He is not mobile at all, and has a weak arm! Good QBs are either mobile or have good arms, great QBs have both, Rees has neither.
 

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Or if we don't give up 21 points on TRs ****ing turnovers we are up 21-7 and the defense making a stop is irrelevant. The fans persistent attempts to justify Rees is baffling. HE BLOWS! It's not his fault he just simply isn't talented enough to compete at a BCS level. He is not mobile at all, and has a weak arm! Good QBs are either mobile or have good arms, great QBs have both, Rees has neither.

Rees only gave up 1 pick 6 not 3. The D gave up the other 2 following his picks. Just about everyone else seems to not realize that.
 

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Rees only gave up 1 pick 6 not 3. The D gave up the other 2 following his picks. Just about everyone else seems to not realize that.

Being thrown onto the field in bad field position 0:50 seconds into the game down 7 is what caused the D to give up the second TD.
 

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Being thrown onto the field in bad field position 0:50 seconds into the game down 7 is what caused the D to give up the second TD.

Why? They weren't tired. It was :50 sec into the game. The position they were in wasn't favorable. But Rees doesn't play D.
 

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How good was Manti?

Manti was good at pursing and open field tackling ( something our LB'S/DB's are not good at this year) however what he wasn't good at was shedding blocks and I saw this quite a few times, however he made plays when the defense needed it
 

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Why? They weren't tired. It was :50 sec into the game. The position they were in wasn't favorable. But Rees doesn't play D.

And ideally they stop them. But momentum is huge in this game, and right then the other guys had it (not to mention the ball inside the 30 yard line). Tough to blame the defense more than Tommy. After the third pick, they went a long way to score. Not really Tommy's "fault" there, but he did cost us a field goal for sure.

The bigger trouble - as others have said - was his winding out the game with eight or nine straight incompletions. You just can't do that.
 

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Manti was good at pursing and open field tackling ( something our LB'S/DB's are not good at this year) however what he wasn't good at was shedding blocks and I saw this quite a few times, however he made plays when the defense needed it

Also he was a leader who wore his heart and intensity on his sleeve and the rest of the defense responded to that. We're missing that badly right now. More than we're missing his physical skills, IMO.
 

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And ideally they stop them. But momentum is huge in this game, and right then the other guys had it (not to mention the ball inside the 30 yard line). Tough to blame the defense more than Tommy. After the third pick, they went a long way to score. Not really Tommy's "fault" there, but he did cost us a field goal for sure.

The bigger trouble - as others have said - was his winding out the game with eight or nine straight incompletions. You just can't do that.

I agree with all of this. I just don't understand everyone's labeling of Rees as the reason we lost or have issues. He may be part of them, but he isn't the only one. His INTs were part of the issue, but the D was also part of it.
 

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Rees only gave up 1 pick 6 not 3. The D gave up the other 2 following his picks. Just about everyone else seems to not realize that.
Not to nit pick but unfortunately one interception led to 7 directly and the other negated 3 points at least, without involving the defense. That's 10 point swing ultimately on the offenses shoulders.

I'm not trying to call you out in general, I'm just pointing to the fact that our offense isn't doing our defense any favors. This was also seen in the Michigan game with the turnover before the half, which led to an eventual Michigan touchdown. Yes our defense gave up the touchdown, but there is something to be said about having our offense put the defense in the position in the first place.
 

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I am not "making up" anything. If you read the OP, I specifically stated that Rees played "a bad game". But Rees is not the only, or even the major problem with this team. And I, for one, am sick and tired of hearing the ignorant and intellectually lazy claim that it is that easy; that it's all Rees' fault.

Past two games: 23/58 (39.7% completion percentage), 246 yds, 3 TDs, 3 INTs
 

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On the one pick that was tipped, TJ Jones said that both him and DD ran the wrong routes.

Most of this BS would be eliminated if turnover tommy stopped acting like he is Peyton Manning pre snap and run the damn play. Our skilled players have got to be wondering wtf most of the time.
 

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Just finished watching the full game. I really think Oklahoma didn't beat Notre Dame, Notre Dame beat themselves with 3 turn overs and costly penalties on defense.


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Tommy Rees QBR (50) is average vs. Temple 95 vs. Michigan 40.1 vs. Purdue 85.6 vs. Michigan St. 59 vs. Oklahoma 10.3
 
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Disappointing. Rees is what he is and he only has half a season left until he's gone. The disappointment comes from the long TD to end the game. Absolutely unacceptable to lose on that. Grace had a terrible game and that play was a microcosm of our defense's shortcomings. They are too slow, especially at ILB.

Also unacceptable: wimping out with 42 seconds and 3 timeouts left. Kelly is way too conservative.

Giving up a 1st down on a helmet to helmet is also unacceptable. Dumb play by Councell. Just a poor decision. No defending it.

On the bright side, the running game looked great. Too bad we couldn't fully exploit it because Kelly/Martin insists on forcing our bad QB to throw the ball early which lead to a quick 14 points. Another example of the poor playcalling by this coaching staff. If we try to establish the run early we might be in this game.

Bennett Jackson has gone full Gary Gray.

Jaylon was at fault on the 2nd TD but he played a lot better as the game went on. We need him to keep it up.

Zach Martin was punked by 19 all game. Weak.

Short passes tore up our D and we need to fix that ASAP.
 

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ND had turnovers but so did OU.The O line still hasnt figured out how to block.The first INT was due to a missed block by the TE.Defensive penalties were fatal in the 4th quarter.Masa should get a shot next week.
 

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So, the reason Rees is a huge problem is that a good QB enables to O to move the chains and this in turn takes pressure off of the d to play a flawless game. Two clear examples would be Miami and Florida State this year as opposed to last. If the D gives up a couple of plays last year we lose about five more games.
 

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ND had turnovers but so did OU.The O line still hasnt figured out how to block.The first INT was due to a missed block by the TE.Defensive penalties were fatal in the 4th quarter.Masa should get a shot next week.

You sir didn't watch this game or are an idiot. Notre dame 3 turnovers Oklahoma zero!


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i just hope that we can get bowl eligible...no one on hear can convince me that's a gurantee
 

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ND had turnovers but so did OU.The O line still hasnt figured out how to block.The first INT was due to a missed block by the TE.Defensive penalties were fatal in the 4th quarter.Masa should get a shot next week.

OU didn't commit any turnovers, and our OL played well enough to win.
 
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