Post Game Observations (Navy '16)

[IrishLion]

1. Special teams doh

2. Monumental coaching error to kick the field goal in the 4th. But that's par for the course this year.

 

[Irish Graham]

If I had to choose a word to describe this game it would be “disgusting”. I have never been so frustrated watching ND football over the past 20 plus years than this year. Last year’s slogan was “next man up”. Well … for this defense, which I have designated as the Swiss Cheese Defense, there is no one there. If I was navy, there was never a case for a punter to be on the field. They had NO trouble going through the lines into the secondary at any time. I would not necessarily say that the penalty for too many men on the field was a game changer – Navy could have run the ball for those seven yards without any problems. There is no question that the decision to go for a field goal was an error in judgement - but if ND did not make it – it would have been a TD going the other way. Well executed strategy on Navy’s part. I am so angry that I am beside myself.

 

[gkIrish]

Positives:

1) Wide receivers played well. Bailed out Kizer a few times.
2) TE finally got a TD
3) Some hard hits by Love and others.

...can't think of much else

Negatives:

1) Offensive line has underachieved probably more than any other unit
2) Kizer is regressing. I didn't see it prior to this game but I see it now.
3) Defense basically got 1 stop.
4) Possibly the worst coaching staff in America this year.

 

[bkess8]

Where can I watch the post game excuse conference?

 

[NDgradstudent]

Everyone who still wants to keep Kelly needs to explain to the rest of us what the conditions are that would justify firing him. WTF would it take?

 

[Shamrock Theories]

Navy never punted.

8/13 on third down, and then converted 4/5 fourth downs

That's your ballgame.

 

[Irish Graham]

Yes ... Navy punted one time.

 

[gkIrish]

Everyone who still wants to keep Kelly needs to explain to the rest of us what the conditions are that would justify firing him. WTF would it take?

The previous excuse was that we were so bad under Weis and the guys before Weis that the program has improved so much that he deserves another year.

We are officially in Weis territory. About to have our worst or 2nd worst record in our modern history this year off the top of my head.

 

[NDRock]

Yes ... Navy punted one time.

Exactly. We tried the old "extra man blocking" on that one but got caught. Fucking replay lost us the game.

 

[Shamrock Theories]

Yes ... Navy punted one time.

Wrong, Zero, due to bonehead penalty that gave them a fourth and short, which they converted.

Navy possessions:

TD
Downs
TD
End of Half (30 second drive)

TD
TD
End of Game

 

[NDRock]

Wrong, Zero. Navy possessions:

TD
Downs
TD
End of Half (30 second drive)

TD
TD
End of Game

Think he was referring to the time they punted but we got called for a penalty because Booker is worse at his job than any other person in America.

 

[irishfanjho15]

This thread will be fun.

 

[IrishinSyria]

We had 6 (six!) offensive possessions all game. That's the fewest for any FBS team since 2008.

 

[loomis41973]

Been behind BK until today.

Drain the swamp and burn this bitch down.

 

[Luckylucci]

1. Kizer is really struggling. The stats don't tell the whole story in this one. He left a tremendous amount of production on the field. Even completed passes were wildly inaccurate, on easy/remedial throws. Not sure what is going on there but he is straight choking. Opposite of what he did last year, major regression.

2. Defense actually did quite well on early downs. We got them into quite a few 3 and 5+ situations. We failed miserably to get the stops after that. Weren't aggressive enough early on, then turned it up, then stopped again. Not sure where that is coming from but it was frustrating.

3. Very disappointed in McGlinchey. The team is frustrated and now it's displayed on the field. He's shook, Kizer is shook, the team is shook.

4. Which leads me to this, ND came out last week to win. We took it to Miami early and played hard. This was a pathetic sluggish effort, by the team. Not all but some key figures.

5. There is talent on this team. It just doesn't have the right coaches. I'd love to have a re-do on the season with all different coaches in place. Because I do believe this team has the talent to beat everyone we play. It's a top 10, overall, roster per the 247 composite. It's being completely wasted on a 3-6 football team.

 

[levicarvalho]

We had 6 (six!) offensive possessions all game. That's the fewest for any FBS team since 2008.

Two drives of 8 min or more...just in the 2nd half

 

[IrishLax]

1. Brian Kelly might be doing the worst coaching job in the country. Obviously has a bad staff in place around him, too. He continuously plays not to lose... like kicking a FG for absolutely no reason instead of going for the TD at the end. You're expected value on those two decisions knowing there were at max 2 total drives left in the game is outrageous. He's an idiot who continually mismanages late game situations year after year or doesn't know math.

2. Another 7 point special teams mistake. Instead of having the ball driving to ice the game we got the ball back with many minutes off the clock and losing. All because a play ran on the field for no reason, because they're coached poorly.

3. DeShone Kizer continues to prove he is not a good QB. That was the 121st ranked passing defense. He was inaccurate with many throws, and was bailed out by WRs multiple times. Inaccurate passing was directly responsible for 14 points (really, 11) less points missing wide open guys for TDs. He is just not very good. He is worse than Tommy Rees as a total passer because despite being able to "make all the throws" he routinely misses many of them. We need to move on to Wimbush starting next year.

4. In general, the defense was very bad. Navy has a very good offense, but you have to get more than one (really, two without Booker Bullshit) stop the entire game. Navy got away with murder... so much holding, so many blocks in the back. None of it called. But the big plays were mostly because of alignment problems. So many times you could tell pre-snap that we were outnumbered to one side of the field with no prayer of making a play if they ran the option that direction... and multiple times they did exactly that and it went for a big play. If we're going to continue to play service academies every year, then we need an analyst who is 100% dedicate to stopping option offense and can instill the same plan year after year. What we ran this year was very different than whatwe ran the past two years.

5. Army is better. Let that sink in.

 

[Meatloaf]

So who gets thrown under the Kelly Bus this week?

 

[IrishinSyria]

I didn't watch the game but:

Touchdown
Field Goal
Punt
Touchdown
Touchdown
Field Goal

Looks like a great game for the offense on paper.

 

[levicarvalho]

I'm curious to see the next JS interview. Probably more coach talk and cliches.

 

[Senoj13]

My Observations:

1. Josh Adams ran hard. I think he averaged 7 yards a carry. Too bad he only got 12 touches I think.

2. WR corp played well. Were open all day. Didn't see any drops.

3. In a game that should have been a signature game for Tranquil, he disappeared. I had to go back thru the Twitter feed to see if he was hurt.

4. Julian Love made some nice plays getting off the cut blocks on the outside.

5. I am not advocating one way or another for a coaching change, but I think once they become NOT bowl eligible, Swarbrick will make the change. Once its official that they have the whole month of December to search/interview for a coach, that will be the nail in the coffin.

 

[Wingman Ray]

You know it is a sad story when people aren't pissed losing to Navy.

AD royally screwed up and played his hand. Gave BK a yard pass no matter how shitty ND plays. That's like telling your girlfriend that you will be there no matter what she does. Maybe if BK had to actually coach up to keep his job, then maybe you would see something happen.

This team is a joke.

 

[Meatloaf]

I didn't watch the game but:

Touchdown
Field Goal
Punt
Touchdown
Touchdown
Field Goal

Looks like a great game for the offense on paper.

The first field goal was actually part of the problem as well. We had 3rd and 2 in the red zone and we decided to go 5 wide. We fail to convert and kick an FG instead. What does that say when your coach would rather pass than try to get 2 yards in 2 plays?

 

[IrishLax]

I didn't watch the game but:

Touchdown
Field Goal
Punt
Touchdown
Touchdown
Field Goal

Looks like a great game for the offense on paper.

At first glance, yes. But 3 TDs on 6 drives against a defense ranked in the hundreds is actually total crap and unacceptable.

 

[IrishinSyria]

The first field goal was actually part of the problem as well. We had 3rd and 2 in the red zone and we decided to go 5 wide. We fail to convert and kick an FG instead. What does that say when your coach would rather pass than try to get 2 yards in 2 plays?

One of the great mysteries of this season (and really the entire Kelly era) for me has been how he does his risk reward calculations. He came in with a reputation as a coach who would roll the dice and push the tempo and now we're kicking field goals from the 2?

What happened to the guy who wanted to run 100 plays a game and was willing to roll the dice?

 

[NDRock]

I didn't watch the game but:

Touchdown
Field Goal
Punt
Touchdown
Touchdown
Field Goal

Looks like a great game for the offense on paper.

One thing I've learned is you beat Navy with your offense. That's why Kelly going for FGs so was frustrating. TD% in our five wins under Kelly were:

2011 - 8/12
2012 - 6/10
2013 - 5/8
2014 - 7/11
2015 - 6/10

You need to be over 50%. In our two losses to Navy:

2010 - 2/8
2016 - 3/6

If my dumbass understands the need to score TDs against Navy, how does Kelly not realize this after all the years we've played them? Do we need more analysts?

 

[Senoj13]

My Observations:

1. Josh Adams ran hard. I think he averaged 7 yards a carry. Too bad he only got 12 touches I think.

2. WR corp played well. Were open all day. Didn't see any drops.

3. In a game that should have been a signature game for Tranquil, he disappeared. I had to go back thru the Twitter feed to see if he was hurt.

4. Julian Love made some nice plays getting off the cut blocks on the outside.

5. I am not advocating one way or another for a coaching change, but I think once they become NOT bowl eligible, Swarbrick will make the change. Once its official that they have the whole month of December to search/interview for a coach, that will be the nail in the coffin.

Just read on Twiiter that Love and Tranquil have head injuries. I didn't not hear them mention the the Tranquil injury during the game and it wasn't reported in any of the Live Tweets that I saw.

 

[IrishLax]

One thing I've learned is you beat Navy with your offense. That's why Kelly going for FGs so was frustrating. TD% in our five wins under Kelly were:

2011 - 8/12
2012 - 6/10
2013 - 5/8
2014 - 7/11
2015 - 6/10

You need to be over 50%. In our two losses to Navy:

2010 - 2/8
2016 - 3/6

If my dumbass understands the need to score TDs against Navy, how does Kelly not realize this after all the years we've played them? Do we need more analysts?

Also, look at total drive count and pace of play. But Kelly went sloooooowwwwwww today with long drives because....?

 

[koonja]

Soft. And my answer to every question is soft.

 

[levicarvalho]

One of the great mysteries of this season (and really the entire Kelly era) for me has been how he does his risk reward calculations. He came in with a reputation as a coach who would roll the dice and push the tempo and now we're kicking field goals from the 2?

What happened to the guy who wanted to run 100 plays a game and was willing to roll the dice?

Against NCST he was throwing the ball on 4th and long. He is lost out there.