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Did Paxton release a pedophile? What pedophile? Why was the guy released? Explain it to me like I am as dumb as you think I am.

similarly, explain how white men not named Tim Walz are accountable here?


What does holding your community accountable even mean to the person asking the question? You want vigilantism? Isn’t that the kind of shit that people hate about 3rd world countries? Or this is all just hillbilly redneck fodder to get people riled up. If Tim Walz had any sort of self preservation skills he would have pointed to the Somali’s in law enforcement or the specific groups that are setup with community outreach. But, he’s a Dem so he has the political tact of a rock.
 

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Did Paxton release a pedophile? What pedophile? Why was the guy released? Explain it to me like I am as dumb as you think I am.

similarly, explain how white men not named Tim Walz are accountable here?

His office gave a guy that pled guilty to sexually assaulting a 16 year old a deal that only required him to serve 30 days of a 60 day sentence. Paxton gave him an Epstein style get out of jail free card for a crime that carries 25 to life in Texas.

Start a new thread called drayer's twitter feed where you can post the random off topic shit that upsets you instead of trying to derail conversations when you’re embarrassing yourself.
 
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His office gave a guy that pled guilty to sexually assaulting a 16 year old a deal that only required him to serve 30 days of a 60 day sentence. Paxton gave him an Epstein style get out of jail free card for a crime that carries 25 to life in Texas.

Start a new thread called drayer's twitter feed where you can post the random off topic shit that upsets you instead of trying to derail conversations when you’re embarrassing yourself.
Why did they give him that deal? I’m still on topic. You did not answer my questions. Were there any unusual circumstances with the jury or the victims considered in this decision? You represent it as the AG endorsing a sexual predators actions with zero context. You went to painful detail for Tyrannafreako to defend god being non-binary, his reflexive political twitch to trans kids, six genders, vegan campaigns, and front porch border policies but are a tad hypocritical here.
 
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Why did they give him that deal? I’m still on topic. You did not answer my questions. Were there any unusual circumstances with the jury or the victims considered in this decision? You represent it as the AG endorsing a sexual predators actions with zero context. You went to painful detail for Tyrannafreako to defend god being non-binary, his reflexive political twitch to trans kids, six genders, vegan campaigns, and front porch border policies but are a tad hypocritical here.
Apparently all you need is a deadlocked jury and Paxton isn't interested in retrying. Yes the victims mom who says she was strong armed into agreeing with the deal. Which they were trying to go even lower on chalking it up to timed served before the judge had to push back.
Prosecutors initially sought to resolve the case with a sentence of time served. After the trial judge criticized that proposal, they returned with a revised offer calling for 30 days in jail and the surrender of Hoffman’s law license. The judge, expressing concern over the leniency of the agreement, and noting that the victim’s mother spoke out against the lenient deal during sentencing, increased the jail term to 60 dyas.60 days.


While prosecutors later touted the agreement, taking credit for having “secured jail time,” the victim’s mother told the The Texas Tribune that the prosecutors had recommended the time served deal and informed her they could proceed with the agreement without her approval, though they “would like [her] to agree with it.”
Yes all the bullshit twitter told you about that you're still garbling on about even after being proven mistaken. You're a clown lol.
 

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Why did they give him that deal? I’m still on topic. You did not answer my questions. Were there any unusual circumstances with the jury or the victims considered in this decision? You represent it as the AG endorsing a sexual predators actions with zero context. You went to painful detail for Tyrannafreako to defend god being non-binary, his reflexive political twitch to trans kids, six genders, vegan campaigns, and front porch border policies but are a tad hypocritical here.

What gender do you think a supreme being is? Lmao this is equivalent to rednecks putting a set of balls on their trucks. “My truck is a manly man”
 

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Apparently all you need is a deadlocked jury and Paxton isn't interested in retrying. Yes the victims mom who says she was strong armed into agreeing with the deal. Which they were trying to go even lower on chalking it up to timed served before the judge had to push back.

Yes all the bullshit twitter told you about that you're still garbling on about even after being proven mistaken. You're a clown lol.
You should escape the tears and pronouns of blue sky.

Nobody is letting Paxton off the hook here, but let’s be precise about what actually happened rather than the Twitter version of it. His office initially offered one day — time served — and a Republican judge rejected it on the spot and had to drag the whole thing to 30 days. Then at sentencing pushed it to 60 when the victim’s mother said 30 wasn’t enough. So the guy who spent years positioning himself as the last line of defense against soft-on-crime prosecutors needed a judge to repeatedly tell his own office to try harder. Let that sink in.

The legitimate criticism is that Paxton’s prosecutors seem to have a pattern. The Texas Tribune documented three separate serious felony cases that all went through mistrial, then got quietly pleaded down to misdemeanors with minimal jail time, and in each instance the judge had to step in and demand more than the AG’s office thought was necessary. This is the same Ken Paxton who built his entire brand suing local DAs for being soft on crime. The cognitive dissonance required to hold both of those things simultaneously should be medically concerning, even with soy/pu

But let’s not pretend this is a clean partisan story either. The hung jury was real (blue sky blue hairs didn’t tell you this). Five jurors were leaning not guilty after nine hours, and the victim’s family said the boy didn’t want to testify again (you left that out and just lied your ass off like he’s cheering for sex offenders). These are hard calls for adults- who can read the full story.
 

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Yes, I read all that too, but something doesn’t smell right here (e.g., prosecutors didn’t try hard enough and were hoping for a hung jury and had in mind the retrial strategy all along and knowing or pushing the idea of not wanting to put the kid through that, etc.). It seems pretty clear there was abuse for three years and the guy didn’t even have to register as a sex offender and only served less than 30 days. What gives? It also sounds like Paxton's OAG team strong armed the highly reduced plea deal on the mother, maybe said one thing - e.g., it's best we offer a plea deal, don't worry, it may not be life imprisonment w/out parole, but we'll push for something that's still strong. Yet you read, they came back after plea negotiation (presumably after mother already agreed it's best not to push for a retrial) and said here's what we're agreeing to whether you like it or not.

Nothing procedurally wrong, but something stinks here and the plea deal is ridiculous so Paxton still deserves all the public disdain.
Hoffman (the pedo) gets to pretty much go back to his life and probably will commit more pedo acts again... sad. And to make it doubly worse for the kid and his family, and SOCIETY, Hoffman has likely now created a next-generation pedo as you see in the story, the mother find out about all this abuse in the first place after she saw her son trying to sexually abuse his own cousin in a pool. I truly believe that it's highly likely that when children are sexually abused pretty young, there's a high probability that they become the next generation of pedos. It's so damn sad.
 

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Yes, I read all that too, but something doesn’t smell right here (e.g., prosecutors didn’t try hard enough and were hoping for a hung jury and had in mind the retrial strategy all along and knowing or pushing the idea of not wanting to put the kid through that, etc.). It seems pretty clear there was abuse for three years and the guy didn’t even have to register as a sex offender and only served less than 30 days. What gives? It also sounds like Paxton's OAG team strong armed the highly reduced plea deal on the mother, maybe said one thing - e.g., it's best we offer a plea deal, don't worry, it may not be life imprisonment w/out parole, but we'll push for something that's still strong. Yet you read, they came back after plea negotiation (presumably after mother already agreed it's best not to push for a retrial) and said here's what we're agreeing to whether you like it or not.

Nothing procedurally wrong, but something stinks here and the plea deal is ridiculous so Paxton still deserves all the public disdain.
Hoffman (the pedo) gets to pretty much go back to his life and probably will commit more pedo acts again... sad. And to make it doubly worse for the kid and his family, and SOCIETY, Hoffman has likely now created a next-generation pedo as you see in the story, the mother find out about all this abuse in the first place after she saw her son trying to sexually abuse his own cousin in a pool. I truly believe that it's highly likely that when children are sexually abused pretty young, there's a high probability that they become the next generation of pedos. It's so damn sad.
I don’t know all of the facts and circumstances. I’m just trying to explain that there are facts and circumstances to people who pretend this was some sort of cheerleading effort for pedophiles and not at least a somewhat complicated legal matter.

I’m sure saying the “Epstein! pedo!” gets everyone like Gattaca on blue sky banging their aftermarket genitals against their Fauci prayer candles in excitement, but reality is different. Thanks for reading it.
 

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You should escape the tears and pronouns of blue sky.

Nobody is letting Paxton off the hook here, but let’s be precise about what actually happened rather than the Twitter version of it. His office initially offered one day — time served — and a Republican judge rejected it on the spot and had to drag the whole thing to 30 days. Then at sentencing pushed it to 60 when the victim’s mother said 30 wasn’t enough. So the guy who spent years positioning himself as the last line of defense against soft-on-crime prosecutors needed a judge to repeatedly tell his own office to try harder. Let that sink in.

The legitimate criticism is that Paxton’s prosecutors seem to have a pattern. The Texas Tribune documented three separate serious felony cases that all went through mistrial, then got quietly pleaded down to misdemeanors with minimal jail time, and in each instance the judge had to step in and demand more than the AG’s office thought was necessary. This is the same Ken Paxton who built his entire brand suing local DAs for being soft on crime. The cognitive dissonance required to hold both of those things simultaneously should be medically concerning, even with soy/pu

But let’s not pretend this is a clean partisan story either. The hung jury was real (blue sky blue hairs didn’t tell you this). Five jurors were leaning not guilty after nine hours, and the victim’s family said the boy didn’t want to testify again (you left that out and just lied your ass off like he’s cheering for sex offenders). These are hard calls for adults- who can read the full story.
I've never used blusky or twitter which is probably why I'm able to form opinions for myself rather than just regurgitating whatever rage bait I happen to scroll past.

I never disputed the hung jury. If there is enough evidence though that a person is willing to plead guilty to one of the most heinous crimes imaginable it's unconscionable to 1) plead him out to a sentence that is less than a month and doesn't even require him to register as a sex offender, or 2) simply retry the piece of shit.
 

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Different platforms. Beto has 2.1m on Twitter. Talarico's bigger following is on Insta. He has 2.2m.

I don't see him as comparable to BK. Talarico was born, lived, taught, held office, and has been a pastor in Texas. The only thing that makes him not seem like a Texan is that he's a nerd. But if this is your litmus test (as in a voter not you specifically) how is Paxton any more suitable? How is that scumbag a "true Texan"?

Fair, I'm too old for Insta I feel like so I don't really see much on there. Maybe with all the money they're throwing at Talarico right now he'll peform well, but I just don't see it personally.

Beto came close awhile back, I'm surprised they don't try to run him again against this Paxton who is probably more beatable than Cruz was. I don't think Paxton is a better person or anything, but he won the primary in a landslide against John Cornyn who held the office for 24 years. I think Talarico has a steep hill to climb, and I'm not sure he's positioning himself well with Texas voters considering some of these sound bytes and interviews. Like I said, maybe Paxton's character bites him in the ass and Talarico wins, but I don't think he'll come as close as Beto.
 

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Fair, I'm too old for Insta I feel like so I don't really see much on there. Maybe with all the money they're throwing at Talarico right now he'll peform well, but I just don't see it personally.

Beto came close awhile back, I'm surprised they don't try to run him again against this Paxton who is probably more beatable than Cruz was. I don't think Paxton is a better person or anything, but he won the primary in a landslide against John Cornyn who held the office for 24 years. I think Talarico has a steep hill to climb, and I'm not sure he's positioning himself well with Texas voters considering some of these sound bytes and interviews. Like I said, maybe Paxton's character bites him in the ass and Talarico wins, but I don't think he'll come as close as Beto.
Beto was down 8 or 9 percent at this point in 2018. Talarico is up 3 or 4 points. Who knows if he can sustain it, but it seems like he has a better shot than Beto did. Cruz is a weasel but he's nowhere near the POS Paxton is.

Wild the weight Trump still commands. People voting against their best interest just because he tells them to. Paxton is a way weaker candidate and a horrible person to boot. He carried over 60%? Insane.
 

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Beto was down 8 or 9 percent at this point in 2018. Talarico is up 3 or 4 points. Who knows if he can sustain it, but it seems like he has a better shot than Beto did. Cruz is a weasel but he's nowhere near the POS Paxton is.

Wild the weight Trump still commands. People voting against their best interest just because he tells them to. Paxton is a way weaker candidate and a horrible person to boot. He carried over 60%? Insane.

Yeah, Cornyn was probably the safer bet, Trump may have screwed the pooch with the endorsement of Paxton if Talarico steals the seat.
 

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Trump also promoted and helped Mayes Middleton beat long-time and loyal MAGA Republican, Chip Roy in TX runoff election. Some say Trump liked Middleton's nastiness and election denialism better than Roy's MAGA loyalty.
 

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Yeah, Cornyn was probably the safer bet, Trump may have screwed the pooch with the endorsement of Paxton if Talarico steals the seat.
Not even just for that seat in particular either. I saw something interesting posted the other day. I guess Paxton is just a so so fundraiser, while Cornyn is one of the GOPs very best. He's raised over $400 million in his political career.
 

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Sounds like a real bromance.


Paxton just finished the toughest senate primary in the country. He’s had ads and negatives. Freako is about to get introduced as a weirdo who is far left on everything and Elliot page normal. I’m not nervous.
You’re like the slow learners that think Drumf or U$C are sick burns lol.

Hmmm an alleged (falsely) vegan or an actual fraudster that was tossed out by his own party he was so corrupt. What a tough choice.
 

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You’re like the slow learners that think Drumf or U$C are sick burns lol.

Hmmm an alleged (falsely) vegan or an actual fraudster that was tossed out by his own party he was so corrupt. What a tough choice.

You can tell the rest of IE MAGA hasn't got the marching orders yet because they've stayed silent and let Drayer play the "he seems really gay so why would you vote for him" card. Some may say that's pretty homophobic, but it is almost June so it's like the second worst month of the year behind February for all of them and I think they may have hired a gay guy in like 1983.
 

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Is this the part where we’re supposed to vehemently defend him and say Susan Collins is a bit gay so we have to support him anyways???
 

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Is this the part where we’re supposed to vehemently defend him and say Susan Collins is a bit gay so we have to support him anyways???

If you want to stick the nazi tattoo porta pot jerk off dude, sure. Dems are even slipping from him. I think him losing is pretty probable. I wonder if they try to drop him, don’t fund him, or pull some kinda Kamala swap last minute. He seems like a dud.
 

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If you want to stick the nazi tattoo porta pot jerk off dude, sure. Dems are even slipping from him. I think him losing is pretty probable. I wonder if they try to drop him, don’t fund him, or pull some kinda Kamala swap last minute. He seems like a dud.

No, I think you’re missing the point. I’m laughing at you and the fake doctor trying to justify Paxton. Nobody here is going to try and justify voting for Platner.

You see how easy it is to be morally consistent?
 

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No, I think you’re missing the point. I’m laughing at you and the fake doctor trying to justify Paxton. Nobody here is going to try and justify voting for Platner.

You see how easy it is to be morally consistent?
I don’t see remotely equivalent baggage
 

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These days many, if not all politicians on both sides of the aisle are repugnant. It was good to hear last night that folks like Bernie Sanders and Corey Booker are starting to push back against further funding of Israel.

The takeover of our political, military, and judicial by Israel and its goal to control the U.S is reaching ridiculous levels at this point.

And economy wise, The Donald is just doing what he's told, sprinkled in with a lot of grifting for him and his family while he's on this magic carpet ride, all the while the U.S. and its economy is getting flushed down the toilet. In fact, I heard this week that the U.S. deficit has now officially reach greater than our $39 Trillion GDP output. That debt service will continue to kill our country.
 
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