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NorthDakota

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Cackalacky2.0 said:
DeSantis has accepted the GOP platform that Ukraine should be left to its own devices versus Russia. No different from Trump.
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DeSantis calls Russia-Ukraine war a ‘territorial dispute,’ questions US involvement

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) this week responded to a questionnaire to argue that protecting Ukraine against Russia’s yearlong invasion should not be one of America’s “vital national interests,” k…
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Neither the Republican nor the DeSantis platform is to leave Ukraine alone (though it is mine). Something like 60%+ Republicans support sending stuff to Ukraine. The elected Republicans are still voting for Ukraine aid on everything.

DeSantis merely said that Ukraine isn't vital to American interests. Vital means absolutely necessary. Factually, Ukraine isn't vital. How do we know this? Had Ukraine fallen in 3 days as Mark Milley prognosticated, life would have went on just fine.
 
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NorthDakota said:
I fear Cack has lost his mind or fallen down some very sad rabbit hole.

I had a high school classmate that attended Boise State. North Dakota resident. Should she have been able to vote in Idaho?
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NorthDakota said:
Neither the Republican nor the DeSantis platform is to leave Ukraine alone (though it is mine). Something like 60%+ Republicans support sending stuff to Ukraine. The elected Republicans are still voting for Ukraine aid on everything.

DeSantis merely said that Ukraine isn't vital to American interests. Vital means absolutely necessary. Factually, Ukraine isn't vital. How do we know this? Had Ukraine fallen in 3 days as Mark Milley prognosticated, life would have went on just fine.
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Keep in mind that he gets all his news from Twitter and MSNBC. He just parrots what he's told without thought. They could tell him that there'd been a zombie apocalypse and ice cream volcanos were spewing Moose Tracks all across the plains and he'd be on here swearing it was happening.
 
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NorthDakota said:
Neither the Republican nor the DeSantis platform is to leave Ukraine alone (though it is mine). Something like 60%+ Republicans support sending stuff to Ukraine. The elected Republicans are still voting for Ukraine aid on everything.

DeSantis merely said that Ukraine isn't vital to American interests. Vital means absolutely necessary. Factually, Ukraine isn't vital. How do we know this? Had Ukraine fallen in 3 days as Mark Milley prognosticated, life would have went on just fine.
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Are you implying Cack is deliberately misleading us?
 
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drayer54 said:
Are you implying Cack is deliberately misleading us?
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Hes had a particularly bad day. But when your sources are the likes of Brian Cohen and Aaron Rupar, you are sorta inviting it. Might as well be relying on Jack Posobiec.
 
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Bishop2b5 said:
Keep in mind that he gets all his news from Twitter and MSNBC. He just parrots what he's told without thought. They could tell him that there'd been a zombie apocalypse and ice cream volcanos were spewing Moose Tracks all across the plains and he'd be on here swearing it was happening.
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He fails to follow the rule of "if it sounds too good to be true" it probably is.

Ron DeSantis in particular has such a bland, generic policy on Ukraine and it has Cack foaming at the mouth. Kinda funny, kinda sad. Frankly, its the most rational view available and I don't even subscribe to it lmaooo.
"while the US has many vital national interests ... becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them.
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We cannot prioritize intervention in an escalating foreign war over the defense of our own homeland, especially as tens of thousands of Americans are dying every year from narcotics smuggled across our open border and our weapons arsenals critical for our own security are rapidly being depleted," DeSantis wrote in response
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Key words, "further" and "prioritize." Again, its a bland answer that basically says to ensure our stockpiles are okay and not push harder.
 
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NorthDakota said:
Kushner's old man went to Club Fed, right? But still a business family. Big real estate types? Biden family.... there is no business.
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Yep old "Michigan Medium" threw him in jail (Christie). I think it's apples and oranges, though. Certainly some sort of corruption as pretty much every Biden has the same societal value as Joe at bar yelling about how defense wins championships.

I just think =/= corrupt vs legitimate crime family. I think scope-wise too, the possible crimes are much larger in scope for those with outside businesses.

Anyways, if any of this leads to either of the three families being thrown in jail that should be seen as net positive for society. *Disclaimer for clear criminal activities and not just because of pressured DA/DOJ official*

(TBH this is like arguing about MSU/Michigan/USC is your favorite, Biden's are MSU as you just pity them and their sadsack program)
 
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My prediction: Nothing serious will happen to Trump, he'll be seen as a political martyr in the GOP, he'll win the Republican nomination, and once again lose in the General Election.

Ironically, this is what many (not all) Democrats want. They know Trump is the weaker candidate in a General Election and have been rooting for something to engineer the GOP Primary. I have no faith in the base of my party telling this loser to kick rocks.
 
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TorontoGold said:
Yep old "Michigan Medium" threw him in jail (Christie). I think it's apples and oranges, though. Certainly some sort of corruption as pretty much every Biden has the same societal value as Joe at bar yelling about how defense wins championships.

I just think =/= corrupt vs legitimate crime family. I think scope-wise too, the possible crimes are much larger in scope for those with outside businesses.

Anyways, if any of this leads to either of the three families being thrown in jail that should be seen as net positive for society. *Disclaimer for clear criminal activities and not just because of pressured DA/DOJ official*

(TBH this is like arguing about MSU/Michigan/USC is your favorite, Biden's are MSU as you just pity them and their sadsack program)
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NDMatt91 said:
My prediction: Nothing serious will happen to Trump, he'll be seen as a political martyr in the GOP, he'll win the Republican nomination, and once again lose in the General Election.

Ironically, this is what many (not all) Democrats want. They know Trump is the weaker candidate in a General Election and have been rooting for something to engineer the GOP Primary. I have no faith in the base of my party telling this loser to kick rocks.
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Agreed. Both parties need a serious housecleaning from the top down. I can’t believe how many voters still adhere to their party line no matter what. I get the “lesser of two evils” but how much longer do we get offered a shit sandwich & a bowl of shit & expect one to taste different. In the end, regular Americans end up eating shit.
 
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TorontoGold said:
Yep old "Michigan Medium" threw him in jail (Christie). I think it's apples and oranges, though. Certainly some sort of corruption as pretty much every Biden has the same societal value as Joe at bar yelling about how defense wins championships.

I just think =/= corrupt vs legitimate crime family. I think scope-wise too, the possible crimes are much larger in scope for those with outside businesses.

Anyways, if any of this leads to either of the three families being thrown in jail that should be seen as net positive for society. *Disclaimer for clear criminal activities and not just because of pressured DA/DOJ official*

(TBH this is like arguing about MSU/Michigan/USC is your favorite, Biden's are MSU as you just pity them and their sadsack program)
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I feel ya. Though per usual I come down on the opposite side.

I look at it sorta like the NCAA as well. I dont really care if there is a bit of cheating by ND, OSU, USC, etc. They provide value. It makes sense that they do sketchy things. Success is expected and demanded.

But when SMU or Ole Miss comes around getting elite recruiting classes, I want them beat down hard. Like you said, the Biden family isn't exactly well bred or learned.
 
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IRISHDODGER said:
Agreed. Both parties need a serious housecleaning from the top down. I can’t believe how many voters still adhere to their party line no matter what. I get the “lesser of two evils” but how much longer do we get offered a shit sandwich & a bowl of shit & expect one to taste different. In the end, regular Americans end up eating shit.
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That's what 2024 will be and why Biden will win. The majority of Americans don't like Joe Biden and think he's doing a poor job as President. With that being said, he'd still beat Trump. Although the majority of the country dislikes Biden, they don't despise him. The majority of the country despises Trump and when push comes to shove they'll vote for the guy they dislike over the guy they despise.
 
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NDMatt91 said:
That's what 2024 will be and why Biden will win. The majority of Americans don't like Joe Biden and think he's doing a poor job as President. With that being said, he'd still beat Trump. Although the majority of the country dislikes Biden, they don't despise him. The majority of the country despises Trump and when push comes to shove they'll vote for the guy they dislike over the guy they despise.
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Trump is still leading all GOP candidates in current polls. I don’t think his legal troubles will do anything but make him more favorable with the GOP.
 
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NDMatt91 said:
That's what 2024 will be and why Biden will win. The majority of Americans don't like Joe Biden and think he's doing a poor job as President. With that being said, he'd still beat Trump. Although the majority of the country dislikes Biden, they don't despise him. The majority of the country despises Trump and when push comes to shove they'll vote for the guy they dislike over the guy they despise.
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I get your point & agree but i refuse to vote for either of those despicable excuses for leaders. America deserves better from both parties.
 
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IRISHDODGER said:
Why can’t we have more moments like this? Politics is local boys. Don’t get sucked into the freakshow in DC.

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I'd at least feed them too if I sentenced them to castration via liberal parents a week before.
NDMatt91 said:
My prediction: Nothing serious will happen to Trump, he'll be seen as a political martyr in the GOP, he'll win the Republican nomination, and once again lose in the General Election.

Ironically, this is what many (not all) Democrats want. They know Trump is the weaker candidate in a General Election and have been rooting for something to engineer the GOP Primary. I have no faith in the base of my party telling this loser to kick rocks.
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I suspect it is a distraction from the Biden family getting paid by China becoming clearer now. Personally, I'm fine with Trump in jail. Hard to win a primary in jail.
 
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I'd at least feed them too if I sentenced them to castration via liberal parents a week before.

I suspect it is a distraction from the Biden family getting paid by China becoming clearer now. Personally, I'm fine with Trump in jail. Hard to win a primary in jail.
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No do Trump, Jared and Ivanka all getting paid WHILE WORKING FOR THE US GOVT.
 
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