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[Cackalacky2.0]

Oh.

Great. Misinfo and disinfo are real problems.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

So Twitter drinks their own bathwater saying that they don't suppress right wing voices. Toronto, as a CPA, has no issue with this, even though it's akin to the IRS asking someone if they cheated on their taxes, and that person saying, "No bros, I promise - I even paid you more than I was supposed to."

Meanwhile, I'm sitting here trying to reconcile anomalous events like this:

Disinfo bots lol

 

[TorontoGold]

Disinfo bots lol

NEW TWITTER FOLLOWERS CACK! THEYRE NEW! NEW! UNITS OF CONSPIRACY!

 

[sixstar]

Can't counter with a substantive argument? Better post some memes.

You got me again, Toronto.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Lol. Whatever. Sleep tight bro.

After thinking about it can you tell me which sources I should be using? I’m curious

If you're trying to get the pulse of the nation on a particular topic/ issue/ event, Twitter is not the place.

 

[TorontoGold]

Can't counter with a substantive argument? Better post some memes.

You got me again, Toronto.

You still can't tell the whole class what the big conspiracy is. Sad. Memes are the only answer for a non-serious discussion with no real direction. Typically when there's a grand conspiracy afoot the audience at least can say what they think is happening, here? Oh these people got big follower spikes....cuz reasons!

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

If you're trying to get the pulse of the nation on a particular topic/ issue/ event, Twitter is not the place.

So tell me what I should be doing. Where should I go. Who should I listen to? You clear got it figured out. Show me the door

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This dude spittin hot fire lol

 

[sixstar]

You still can't tell the whole class what the big conspiracy is. Sad. Memes are the only answer for a non-serious discussion with no real direction. Typically when there's a grand conspiracy afoot the audience at least can say what they think is happening, here? Oh these people got big follower spikes....cuz reasons!

It's quite obvious what I'm saying: Twitter algorithms can be tweaked at any time to filter or unfilter content. Twitter employees admitted to targeted content moderation in a 2018 Project Veritas investigative report. You can watch the video.

On the dates that Elon's Twitter takeover started and completed, it appears that the algorithms adjusted to eliminate previous shadow bans on conservative accounts to cover tracks of previous targeted moderation. In this case, followers were likely automatically re-added to accounts that Twitter algorithms previously removed them from.

 

[Sea Turtle]

This dude spittin hot fire lol
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At first I thought it was headed for a typical black liberation/race hustling sermon. But he takes it even further and goes full Al Shapten and turns it into a don't vote for the Uncle Tom candidate.

Lovely. This preacher sure 'dismantled' the pro life candidate because aborting black babies is more important than voting for the tom who was around white coaches growing up. That is pretty sad, to say the least.

Maybe someone needs to whisper in his ear that Jesus Christ doesn't care if you are black or white. Or if you have a D or an R next to your name. What seminaries are teaching this junk?

 

[TorontoGold]

It's quite obvious what I'm saying: Twitter algorithms can be tweaked at any time to filter or unfilter content. Twitter employees admitted to targeted content moderation in a 2018 Project Veritas investigative report. You can watch the video.

On the dates that Elon's Twitter takeover started and completed, it appears that the algorithms adjusted to eliminate previous shadow bans on conservative accounts to cover tracks of previous targeted moderation. In this case, followers were likely automatically re-added to accounts that Twitter algorithms previously removed them from.

Do you truly believe that employees can just go in and adjust Twitter algorithms when they feel like it? Hell, QuickBooks has auditing procedures to show who accessed what. I'm pretty sure that uhhh Twitter has some pretty good audit trail evidence on who has access to those algorithms. This would require multiple levels of people to be in on this conspiracy and carry out the plan. Additionally, these people who have access to Twitter's algorithms would need an incentive strong enough for them to risk their job to carry this out. I'm guessing people with read/write access don't come cheap. Oh and what's this all for? To move around Ted Cruz' followers to achieve....what? Oh no, he has 5.15M followers when he should have 5.20M followers (of which 10% are bots).

Project Veritas? Now we're getting into the good stuff. I hope Andy Ngo has a investigative report ready to go with it.

My job is literally understanding and assessing risk. There is a clear lack of motive, gain, and material impact by this (if it's true). Personally I would do it to fuck with these people because I know how much they would care about these things.

 

[sixstar]

Sure. Twitter employees were caught on camera admitting as much, so yeah, I believe that.

And you don't understand how software development workflows work. Twitter runs an automated CI/CD pipeline with async code reviews. Updating ML weights or content filters is a simple configuration file change, a few quick code quality checks, and a commit button. None of this touches core algorithmic code. My company updates our ML content filters multiple times per day. It's standard practice.

 

[TorontoGold]

You are correct I don't know anything about software workflows.

I do however know that if someone was claiming a pervasive issue like you are claiming that this would certainly be disclosed in a SOC II report. Which Twitter would have to complete. Since you're well versed in software workflows it's interesting you wouldn't go to that first. It would tell the user of all audit test procedures done to ensure proper IT controls are effective. So, if the ability influence the algorithms is that flimsy I'm sure its disclosed and the mitigating controls are listed somewhere, no?

You're free to show me where an IT audit expert has confirmed your claim. I know where the bodies are for companies with shit IT controls. If there were material issues that would lead to a free for all adjustment to Twitter's content moderation you would be relying on that and not a Project Veritas video.

 

[sixstar]

You honestly think an organizational SOC2 policy is part of a code push, or is this another one of your deflection attempts?

I don't have time to educate you in SOC2 compliance and application, but suffice it to say that the policy informs high level processes and that it has virtually no bearing on a code release that tweaks algorithm configuration values. The focus of SOC2 is security and privacy. Source: I ran a very large SOC2 compliant SAAS business, and I was the executive that sponsored and signed the external audits.

 

[Irish#1]

Do you truly believe that employees can just go in and adjust Twitter algorithms when they feel like it? Hell, QuickBooks has auditing procedures to show who accessed what. I'm pretty sure that uhhh Twitter has some pretty good audit trail evidence on who has access to those algorithms. This would require multiple levels of people to be in on this conspiracy and carry out the plan. Additionally, these people who have access to Twitter's algorithms would need an incentive strong enough for them to risk their job to carry this out. I'm guessing people with read/write access don't come cheap. Oh and what's this all for? To move around Ted Cruz' followers to achieve....what? Oh no, he has 5.15M followers when he should have 5.20M followers (of which 10% are bots).

No, all it would take is Musk issuing an order to stop filtering. A couple of clicks of the keyboard and the info flows.

 

[Irish#1]

This dude spittin hot fire lol

The dude sounds bitter and racist.

 

[TorontoGold]

You honestly think an organizational SOC2 policy is part of a code push, or is this another one of your deflection attempts?

I don't have time to educate you in SOC2 compliance and application, but suffice it to say that the policy informs high level processes and that it has virtually no bearing on a code release that tweaks algorithm configuration values. The focus of SOC2 is security and privacy. Source: I ran a very large SOC2 compliant SAAS business, and I was the executive that sponsored and signed the external audits.

Deflection? I'm describing how external auditors and financial regulators use these reports. It should be pretty clear that if there any access control issues this would be documented and we would know.

Thank you for saving your time, often best to let IT focus on their technical issues rather than big picture analysis. Quite literally part of both Canadian and US auditing standards to assess a companies ability to protect their IP which in this case is their algorithms. If they could enforce a shadow banning feature this would known by advertisers and you don't think that they would leak something about it? Source: I've reviewed and consulted with companies with significant IP that are OSC and SEC regulated, and if they couldn't safeguard their assets properly they would have not received a clean audit opinion.

Follow the money - it makes NO financial sense to shadow ban conservatives. They aren't running a hippy charity for a good time.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

So tell me what I should be doing. Where should I go. Who should I listen to? You clear got it figured out. Show me the door

realclearpolitics.com always has polls taken on numerous issues from various sources. That's a start. Trying to paint the picture of the entire country's opinion of the Pelosi attack based on your twitter feed is an absolute joke, and we all know it except you.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

You honestly think an organizational SOC2 policy is part of a code push, or is this another one of your deflection attempts?

I don't have time to educate you in SOC2 compliance and application, but suffice it to say that the policy informs high level processes and that it has virtually no bearing on a code release that tweaks algorithm configuration values. The focus of SOC2 is security and privacy. Source: I ran a very large SOC2 compliant SAAS business, and I was the executive that sponsored and signed the external audits.

lol soc 2 is the last thing i'd expect to see on IE. damn i hate bringing work home haha

 

[sixstar]

Alex Martinez, Lead Client Partner, Twitter:

We believe in something that's good for the planet and not just to give people free speech .. It's like, no, but people don't know how to make a rational decision if you don't put out correct things that are supposed to be out in the public.

When asked, "Do you think Twitter cares more about profit or ideology?"

Now I think it's about, well, right now we don't make profit. So it's going to say ideology, which is what's led us into not being profitable. Well, if we're implementing all these rules that they're - and Elon wants to dismantle them, then technically our ideology has led us to not making money because we're not making money. And Elon wants to turn it the other way so that we can make money.

 

[Irish#1]

Deflection? I'm describing how external auditors and financial regulators use these reports. It should be pretty clear that if there any access control issues this would be documented and we would know.

Thank you for saving your time, often best to let IT focus on their technical issues rather than big picture analysis. Quite literally part of both Canadian and US auditing standards to assess a companies ability to protect their IP which in this case is their algorithms. If they could enforce a shadow banning feature this would known by advertisers and you don't think that they would leak something about it? Source: I've reviewed and consulted with companies with significant IP that are OSC and SEC regulated, and if they couldn't safeguard their assets properly they would have not received a clean audit opinion.

Follow the money - it makes NO financial sense to shadow ban conservatives. They aren't running a hippy charity for a good time.

Not to derail this conversation, but you're a little out of touch. IT has become ingrained into the business side of things for quite a while now. My main focus isn't about installing and utilizing the latest technology. My focus is identifying business pain points or opportunities where we can expand the business through technology. This is a pretty common practice through all industries.

 

[TorontoGold]

You know what a client partner does, right? A staff software engineer gets paid more than a Lead Client Partner at Twitter lol. You can follow the money and see what is more impactful on a business.

Business relationship staff always will stretch what their business can do, this is pretty consistent throughout most industries. They're salesmen for a reason.

Not to derail this conversation, but you're a little out of touch. IT has become ingrained into the business side of things for quite a while now. My main focus isn't about installing and utilizing the latest technology. My focus is identifying business pain points or opportunities where we can expand the business through technology. This is a pretty common practice through all industries.

I was being pretty hyperbolic, and an ass. IT and logistics are way more crucial overall business health than most realize. Without the big picture analysis and modelling we would be nowhere. When it comes to financial risk assessment I think often times in my experience IT is very good at identifying issues and taking pride in their work, but big picture fraud/financial risk analysis is not necessarily their specialty.

 

[NorthDakota]

Great. Misinfo and disinfo are real problems.

You'll need to define those terms. Objectively.

My background check is entering its ninth week. So forgive my nitpicking. I need to keep my brain engaged.

 

[drayer54]

You honestly think an organizational SOC2 policy is part of a code push, or is this another one of your deflection attempts?

I don't have time to educate you in SOC2 compliance and application, but suffice it to say that the policy informs high level processes and that it has virtually no bearing on a code release that tweaks algorithm configuration values. The focus of SOC2 is security and privacy. Source: I ran a very large SOC2 compliant SAAS business, and I was the executive that sponsored and signed the external audits.

Anything that hits SOC2 compliance on the board is an auto like from me.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

realclearpolitics.com always has polls taken on numerous issues from various sources. That's a start. Trying to paint the picture of the entire country's opinion of the Pelosi attack based on your twitter feed is an absolute joke, and we all know it except you.

Oh you mean these guys? Lol. I was already following them. Anyone else?

Speaking of Pelosi I read the actual FBI report on the attack that was released the other day. Haven’t seen that in anything on FauxNews or RCP or any other right leaning site YET…. Maybe but I haven’t seen it.

 

[NorthDakota]

Oh you mean these guys? Lol. I was already following them. Anyone else?
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Speaking of Pelosi I read the actual FBI report on the attack that was released the other day. Haven’t seen that in anything on FauxNews or RCP or any other right leaning site YET…. Maybe but I haven’t seen it.

Stephen Miller had it up. Conservative guy on Twitter. Not THAT Stephen Miller.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

You'll need to define those terms. Objectively.

My background check is entering its ninth week. So forgive my nitpicking. I need to keep my brain engaged.

The google machine works really well for things like this.

 

[dublinirish]

Brazil heading towards their own January 6th it seems

 

[NDMatt91]

I see the Dems keeping the Senate and adding a seat (PA), making it 51-49. Masters (AZ), Oz (PA), and Bolduc (NH) are all terrible candidates and NV has been Lucy with the football for Republicans. GA will likely go to a runoff and Warnock might win that. The frustrating thing is that the Dems ran several horrible candidates in 2018, such as the squad, and they won, although those were House seats as opposed to Senate seats. Additionally, according to polls, the issues that the Dems are focusing on (January 6th, abortion/SCOTUS, Democracy, etc.) are not what the voters are mostly focusing on (economy, inflation, crime/border, etc.) and yet they’ll likely gain a seat in the Senate. Add in Biden’s 43% approval rating on average per RCP, too.

On the flip side, the GOP might need to learn a lesson to stop embracing a f*cking loser (Trump). Oz, Masters, and Bolduc were all his picks. McCormick, a milquetoast businessman, who barely lost the PA primary, would be up in the polls against Fetterman right now. He’d be PA’s version of Youngkin. Toomey would also win, but Trump made it his mission to make him unelectable going forward. Doug Ducey, the current Governor of AZ, would be a shoe-in to take back the Senate seat from Kelly. But, much like Toomey, because he didn’t peddle the dominion machine conspiracy theories, Trump made it his mission to make Ducey unelectable going forward. As for GA, the only reason Ossoff and Warnock won was because Trump intervened, making the runoff all about himself and embracing Lin Wood and Sidney Powell. He paraded them around the state for close to 2 months and they told GOP voters to boycott the runoff. Ossoff and Warnock have no business being in the Senate, but we have the fat orange jackass to thank for that.

Unfortunately, I think our party is too stupid to learn this lesson, especially before 2024. We’re likely going to underperform in the mid-terms, even with the catastrophe that is the Biden Presidency, and our party is going to be stupid enough to give Trump the nomination in 2024 and he’ll lose once again and hurt us in down ballot races, whereas someone like DeSantis would destroy Biden. It also gives the Dems a get out of jail free card and the ability to deflect from the Biden Presidency and inflate his approval rating. Our party is soft f*cking soft. When Romney and McCain lost we told them to f*ck off and not run again. When HW Bush was defeated in ‘92 we told him to get lost and not run in ‘96. Why are we not being consistent and telling Trump to also go f*ck himself?

 

[sixstar]

The google machine works really well for things like this.

I consulted Google. I'm glad that Google can crush misinformation. I unwaveringly place my trust in Google. The multi-national company is my advocate and my source of truth. Praise be.