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  • Obama

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Romney

    Votes: 172 48.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 13.1%
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    Votes: 130 36.9%

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drayer54

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I just want to see which former Green Bay Packer QB ends up being the most politically embarrassing while I plot an exit strategy to settle in Europe.
It’s not like he let 8 million illegals in and priced people out of their lifestyle.
 

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And he’s still bragging about the vaccine despite a large portion of his supporters being critical of it.
Yeah, they’re saying things that used to get you banned. Crazy stuff like the virus came from a lab in China and that you have some natural immunity if you already had it. Stuff like the vax doesn’t prevent you from getting Covid. Lunatics.
 

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Yeah, they’re saying things that used to get you banned. Crazy stuff like the virus came from a lab in China and that you have some natural immunity if you already had it. Stuff like the vax doesn’t prevent you from getting Covid. Lunatics.
I have no issues with being critical of the vax & how it was pushed. But I find it ironic that Trump is steadfast in how ”great“ the vaccine was/is. Even when a portion Trump’s audience would boo the vax, he would maintain that it’s great. Even despite his distancing from Fauci or Birx basically saying they had to be deceitful for the greater good. The most staunch dyed-in-the-wool Trumpers seem to also be the most staunch anti-COVID lockdown/vax crowd. Do you disagree?

 
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I have no issues with being critical of the vax & how it was pushed. But I find it ironic that Trump is steadfast in how ”great“ the vaccine was/is. Even when a portion Trump’s audience would boo the vax, he would maintain that it’s great. Even despite his distancing from Fauci or Birx basically saying they had to be deceitful for the greater good. The most staunch dyed-in-the-wool Trumpers seem to also be the most staunch anti-COVID lockdown/vax crowd. Do you disagree?



It is an interesting position. I'm still baffled how people on both sides flipped as soon as the Presidents changed office. During the Democrat primaries they said they didn't know if they would trust a "Trump vaccine." Lots of the propaganda accounts on Twitter said they'd never take it. Half a year later the liberals are the ones pushing the jab and the conservatives are the ones questioning it. Both sides just eat up what their media feeds them, the shift was wild.
 

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It is an interesting position. I'm still baffled how people on both sides flipped as soon as the Presidents changed office. During the Democrat primaries they said they didn't know if they would trust a "Trump vaccine." Lots of the propaganda accounts on Twitter said they'd never take it. Half a year later the liberals are the ones pushing the jab and the conservatives are the ones questioning it. Both sides just eat up what their media feeds them, the shift was wild.
Exactly! Are we the only ones noticing this?
 

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I have no issues with being critical of the vax & how it was pushed. But I find it ironic that Trump is steadfast in how ”great“ the vaccine was/is. Even when a portion Trump’s audience would boo the vax, he would maintain that it’s great. Even despite his distancing from Fauci or Birx basically saying they had to be deceitful for the greater good. The most staunch dyed-in-the-wool Trumpers seem to also be the most staunch anti-COVID lockdown/vax crowd. Do you disagree?


As someone who is far from MAGA! and gets accused of "TDS" by some, I love calling it the Trump Vax. For Dems, it's always good to point out that Joe was vaxed in Trump's presidency.
 

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I truly don't recall ever thinking to myself from March 2020 to January 2021 that if a vaccine for Covid became available I would not want to have access to it. That's just me. I'm not even a spoke in the wheel. I'm dirt underneath it.
 

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I truly don't recall ever thinking to myself from March 2020 to January 2021 that if a vaccine for Covid became available I would not want to have access to it. That's just me. I'm not even a spoke in the wheel. I'm dirt underneath it.

I had the same mindset from start to finish as well, but from a different perspective. I was going to continue avoiding contact with people when possible and I would see how the first 6 months of the jab would go with other people. About the time I considered getting it the stuff about the myocarditis started coming out, and then my wife later got her booster (She was a nurse at the time) and it brought her ITP out of remission among other issues. I've had COVID a few times since and it's been no big deal for me. I may change my mind about the jab as I get older and more susceptible, but it seems like the virus has only gotten less deadly while being more transmissible since.
 

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I had the same mindset from start to finish as well, but from a different perspective. I was going to continue avoiding contact with people when possible and I would see how the first 6 months of the jab would go with other people. About the time I considered getting it the stuff about the myocarditis started coming out, and then my wife later got her booster (She was a nurse at the time) and it brought her ITP out of remission among other issues. I've had COVID a few times since and it's been no big deal for me. I may change my mind about the jab as I get older and more susceptible, but it seems like the virus has only gotten less deadly while being more transmissible since.
I remember a former colleague jumping in line to get the initial vax by saying he was a healthcare worker when he was really a device rep. If you remember, the vax was originally reserved for healthcare workers and the elderly. I had no problem waiting and also had no problem taking it once it was available to all. Knowing what we know now, I’m in no hurry to get another one but that reminds me…I need to get a flu shot.
 

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I got the vax when it came out. I had an elevated risk factor and it made sense. I got one follow-up. That said, that was my choice. My problem was with the enforcement of lies, squashing legitimate questions, and mandates. Seeing our media, the voice of the people, enforce the lies and fall in line with ideological extremes over the truth.
 

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"Hey, don't get me wrong, I HATE Trump, but like Biden is gay?"

I hope Donny wins lmao.
 

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The signs on the left probably should have read something like:
"Everyone I don't agree with is a Nazi"
" ACAB"
"All whites are racist"
and "Hillary won"
 

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Lol. This is an insane take. Shows how sad of a world it must be.


Lahtinen warned against extrapolating their findings to international audiences just yet, particularly across Western nations.

“The studies were quite robust with a sample size above 5,000 and good psychometric properties,” Lahtinen said. “However, the scale would need to be validated in North American samples in order to know how these attitudes manifest there. I encourage colleagues in the United States to study the prevalence of these attitudes in the country where they originate from.”

Thank goodness we aren't extrapolating this to North America!

mEDia IS tWIsTiNg!1!
 

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I'm going to be honest, from what I've seen of a number of these committee hearings they come off as a bit of a joke. Both sides are guilty of it, but they love to just constantly interrupt the person they're grilling and don't let them finish a sentence. I get that they have an allotted time to work with, but if you're going to ask a question and then not let the person answer it comes off as a shit show. The one with Zuckerberg was pretty good though, both sides were at least united going after him and rightfully so.
 

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The grownups are being nominated.

It's not just that she can't define an assault weapon, which is stupid enough, or that she got caught signing a brief she knew little or nothing about. It's that she showed up for her own confirmation hearing this badly prepared. She absolutely 100% should have known this or a similar question was coming and been prepared for it. This hearing exposes her as an ill-prepared, lying, unqualified nitwit.
 
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