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Both were great. And both had contagious emotion. Something this Rees debacle lacks!

Well that's a fact. No emotion or leadership on either side of the ball. That's on Kelly, Rees, TJ, Martin, Tuitt, Nix, Jackson, etc.

Rees never has emotion. There are times when he's as cool as the other side of the pillow which is great, but I'd much rather see him fired up or down at times and that rub off and fuel the team. He just isn't that type of player. He's to cool, calm, and collected for that.
 

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Didn't Weis get rid of the 6-win seasons? He should be fired for walking over ND's tradition. Oh, wait ...
 

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Didn't Weis get rid of the 6-win seasons? He should be fired for walking over ND's tradition. Oh, wait ...

BK had one good season and we're on track for a Weiss-esque 6-6. If we were steamrolling people and winning BCS bowls, THEN you could start attacking people for overreacting. If we're going to be mediocre anyways, we might as well hang on to those other things.
 

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BK had one good season and we're on track for a Weiss-esque 6-6. If we were steamrolling people and winning BCS bowls, THEN you could start attacking people for overreacting. If we're going to be mediocre anyways, we might as well hang on to those other things.

The good season you are referring to was the year we went undefeated and to the NC. That is the only year Kelly didn't have a statue with a noodle arm for a qb.

Kelly is not the problem!
 

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Those times that they didn't, did people like the folks on this board call for Lou's head?

This is all ridiculously overblown, and in my opinion, why we can't have nice things.

When we win, well we deserve it... we're ND.. We Should Win!!!!

When we lose? Well, somebody clearly doesn't understand how ND works. Somebody is ****ing with tradition, even if that same coach got us to the NCG the year before.

It's patently ridiculous.

The only reason we're noticing this is because we haven't lost at home in a while. Ridiculous.

Jug- often respect your take, you seem a bit too dismissive of contrary opinion on this one. You used my post to base your point, so I would respectfully note that nowhere did I call for a firing. Skipping the alma mater after a loss without a bit more transparency to the student body was a misstep. The moment is for them, not the fans, and I think it's fair and reasonable for disappointment, for the reasons I outlined in an earlier post.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a Bring the Player Walk Back to the Basilica rally to get to.
 

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Few things here. I like the idea of the players always doing the alma matter. It's always a good moment for me at the end of the game, win or lose. I'm sure it's even better when you're on the field or in the student section.

People saying Golson was terrible last year are a little lost. He wasn't perfect, but he made a lot of good decisions and got better as the year went on. He was also a sophomore. It's pretty normal to expect him much better as a junior. It's also normal to expect him a better player coming in 2014.
 

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There is a Facebook page called "ND Confessions" where students anonymously post their secrets. This was just posted there...

"#1045: Coach Kelly told us not to stay for the alma mater if we lost the game. As a member of the team, I'm proud to say that I and most of my fellow teammates did not listen to his order. Win or lose, we bleed gold and blue and I promise you will always be there. Our hearts forever; love thee Notre Dame."
 

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There is a Facebook page called "ND Confessions" where students anonymously post their secrets. This was just posted there...

"#1045: Coach Kelly told us not to stay for the alma mater if we lost the game. As a member of the team, I'm proud to say that I and most of my fellow teammates did not listen to his order. Win or lose, we bleed gold and blue and I promise you will always be there. Our hearts forever; love thee Notre Dame."

Maybe a player actually posted that, but maybe a disgruntled student posted it just to stir the pot. Who knows...

Edit: Nevermind. As usual, I'm late to the ballgame. Didn't know Kelly had told the players not to stay for the alma mater after a loss.
 
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Maybe a player actually posted that, but maybe a disgruntled student posted it just to stir the pot. Who knows...

Edit: Nevermind. As usual, I'm late to the ballgame. Didn't know Kelly had told the players not to stay for the alma mater after a loss.

Tee Shepard?
 

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Maybe a player actually posted that, but maybe a disgruntled student posted it just to stir the pot. Who knows...

Edit: Nevermind. As usual, I'm late to the ballgame. Didn't know Kelly had told the players not to stay for the alma mater after a loss.
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Either way, none of us can do anything about it. It's like anything else. If the stars line up & Rees throws for 450 yards, 5 passing TD's & 150 yards rushing with 3 rushing TD's and averages that for the rest of the season & Kelly says they aren't staying for the Alma Mater 99% would be ok with it. Now, a few of the students in here would I believe. Now, notice I said the stars had to align for that to happen. All I know is, if I had the opportunity to wear thT uniform & take the field, not only would I stay for the Alma Mater, I might try to homestead in the stadium...WITH MY UNIFORM. HAHA! In all seriousness, to be a player, or a student, at Notre Dame is one of the biggest honors a person can have. Now this is just my thinking, but I would stand & sing it & be just at proud that I am a Student at Notre Dame as I am to be an American. Hey, that's just me, I'm weird like that.
 

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From gameday.nd.edu:

And whether or not Notre Dame wins, you’ll see the Fighting Irish team approach the student section to sing the Alma Mater together.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>So you talk about players leaving the alma mater? What about fans that boo tommy? Fans that were coming for everyone heads after we lost to</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384473319690756096">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Tulsa, or Michigan at the big house, or NAVY IN THE MEADOWLANDS.. wait what about our so called fans throwing marshmallows at us. Not to</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384473627368099840">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Mention we LOST THAT GAME. They were 2-9 at the time. Did us players ever boo y'all? Did we write the observer... HELL NO</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384473931203489792">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>But then again the same fans that's talking mess wants to rush the field when we beat Utah. Acting like we win the whole thing. Then every</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384474441188900864">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Seasons we wet through and THE HORRIBLE losses we had. And the great wins we had.</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384474854084608000">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Ya you don't think people are frustrated hell yea I don't play anymore and I'm pissed bc we are a lot better. But 98% of the fans never</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384475234449235968">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Played ball here. So you have no idea. And will never have an idea. True fans STAY THE WHOLE GAME don't boo don't TALK MESS ABOUT TOMMY</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384475598489661441">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Or our play calling or whatever. the coaches gonna get it together players gonna get it together. Yes you are entitled to your opinion</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384475944800763904">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>But when you wanna bash the players that PUTTING IN YHE WORK ON AND OFF THE FIELD. That's when you need to check your self.</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384476144172806144">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Either way, none of us can do anything about it. It's like anything else. If the stars line up & Rees throws for 450 yards, 5 passing TD's & 150 yards rushing with 3 rushing TD's and averages that for the rest of the season & Kelly says they aren't staying for the Alma Mater 99% would be ok with it. Now, a few of the students in here would I believe. Now, notice I said the stars had to align for that to happen. All I know is, if I had the opportunity to wear thT uniform & take the field, not only would I stay for the Alma Mater, I might try to homestead in the stadium...WITH MY UNIFORM. HAHA! In all seriousness, to be a player, or a student, at Notre Dame is one of the biggest honors a person can have. Now this is just my thinking, but I would stand & sing it & be just at proud that I am a Student at Notre Dame as I am to be an American. Hey, that's just me, I'm weird like that.

You're a weird guy, E, but that's got nothing to do with this post. :wink:

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Again I seen the ups and down I was fortunate to play with players that were awesome. Been coached by different coaches. Had three DL coach</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384476985902518272">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I think it's pretty disappointing that Kelly would implement this policy. The greatest thing about the alma mater, IMO, is/was that we did it win or lose. When we were 3-9, we did it. When we were 12-0, we did it.

I don't see how Kelly doesn't get it.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Again I seen the ups and down I was fortunate to play with players that were awesome. Been coached by different coaches. Had three DL coach</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384476985902518272">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>and two head coaches. And we didn't quit or give up. You circle the wagons and BALL OUT. the football team should just do the alma mater</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384477397040771072">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The lockeroom by their damn selves since the fans wanna leave early. But wait.. Sorry for the rant. Might have some more later. Go IRISH.</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384477729087062016">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>BEAT ASU.</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384477751211986944">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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You're a weird guy, E, but that's got nothing to do with this post. :wink:

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In my defense, I am in the hospital. I had another back surgery Friday. This wonder medicine in my IV IS PRETTY GOOD STUFF
 

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It sounds to me like they put themselves, and their disappointment, above the team and the University. It may have been an aberration and not a trend, but it still should put them in the doghouse, and there still should be consequences. Once those consequences are fulfilled, then you can call it ancient history.

I don't know that they put themselves above the school. Maybe they were so upset with the loss they just let their emotions direct them right to the locker room.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>And to the fans that stayed. Students that stayed thank you. From a former player myself that does mean a lot. Means a lot for players</p>— Kapron Lewis-Moore (@KLM_89) <a href="https://twitter.com/KLM_89/statuses/384478549140602880">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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In my defense, I am in the hospital. I had another back surgery Friday. This wonder medicine in my IV IS PRETTY GOOD STUFF

You don't need any defense. I hope you are up and chasing around.............. whatever it is that you normally chase around............... very soon.
 

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Kap going off is really disappointing. I know students have done some questionable things before like throwing snowballs at players and booing occasionally when perhaps we shouldn't. But at the end of the day we stand there for 4 hours regardless of how s****y the team looks. I stood there for four hours in the rain freshman year while the team got dismantled by Stanford. So for him to make blanket statements about all fans is extremely disappointing to me.

*Edit: Just saw what he last tweeted, which is all good and well. But still think he's a bit off base, but that's just my opinion.
 

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There is a Facebook page called "ND Confessions" where students anonymously post their secrets. This was just posted there...

"#1045: Coach Kelly told us not to stay for the alma mater if we lost the game. As a member of the team, I'm proud to say that I and most of my fellow teammates did not listen to his order. Win or lose, we bleed gold and blue and I promise you will always be there. Our hearts forever; love thee Notre Dame."

Can this be confirmed that Kelly actually said this?
 
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