Panthers

[SoDakDomer]

Peyton Manning couldn't even win with that group of clowns...

 

[kmoose]

Peyton Manning couldn't even win with that group of clowns...

Peyton Manning could win with a group of Irish Envy Clowns.....

 

[Epitome]

Jimmy isn't exactly leading them to the promise land either. He has made more poor throws this year than good throws. Every time he goes down field he looks terrible.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

Damn the Panthers are predictable!

 

[SoDakDomer]

Predictable like...run on 1st and ten...run on 2nd and 7...pass on 3rd and 6...with the mixed in false start

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

groundhog day....

 

[KPENN]

Jimmy isn't exactly leading them to the promise land either. He has made more poor throws this year than good throws. Every time he goes down field he looks terrible.

Let's remember he's a rookie. If I recall correctly Peyton Manning was quite awful his rookie year too. It happens

 

[Epitome]

Let's remember he's a rookie. If I recall correctly Peyton Manning was quite awful his rookie year too. It happens

Peyton had 3700 yds and 26 tds as a rookie. Although, he did have 28 ints. I understand he is a rookie and the play calling sucks, but it seems he never takes advantage of his oppurtunities when given to him. Steve Smith sucks by the way.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I'm sure he will get better as he learns more and the talent on the team improves.

 

[WhoDeyIrish]

The thing I've noticed about Jimmy is that he's been pretty inaccurate. I'm a big believer in Clausen. I believe he will be a good pro. From what I've noticed in watching this game is that the receivers for the Panthers are pathetic. Steve Smith has lost a step and I think he is just frustrated. LaFell and Gettis both are very young and you can't have that with a young receiver. They really need a veteran guy that can coach him up at QB which they don't have. Carolina would make a mistake in drafting Luck. He will be okay he just needs a little help and work on his accuracy, especially down field.

 

[IrishLax]

Is anyone watching ESPN right now? They just said that they had seen enough of Jimmy Clausen to know he's a bust and that they should draft Luck because he is a no miss prospect.

There is so much wrong with that analysis I'm not even going to start. Good work Tedy Bruschi and Mark Schlereth.

 

[phork]

Clausen's arm is terrible. A couple of those passes I was like "this can't be the same guy". His WRs aren't helping either.

 

[IrishLax]

He looks like he did freshman year. He's thinking about getting hit too much and not getting the ball out quick because he doesn't trust his receivers. The NFL is a fickle beast... and it looks like Jimmy got the shaft. I hope he gets dealt and Carolina grabs Luck.

 

[DomerBoy]

Let's face it, if Clausen was the real deal he would be dealing like Bradford. Bradford was drafted by the worst team in the NFL with no receivers and they are in good position to make the playoffs. Tebow is even playing better ball than Clausen which is dishearting yet true. What is even more disheartening is that Davidson worked under Weiss and had the same terminology and yet he has continued to struggle. I thought Carolina drafting him was a great opportunity for him to have early success and yet it has been the latter.

 

[PatsandBostonfan1975]

Peyton Manning couldn't even win with that group of clowns...

brady could

 

[IrishLax]

Let's face it, if Clausen was the real deal he would be dealing like Bradford. Bradford was drafted by the worst team in the NFL with no receivers and they are in good position to make the playoffs. Tebow is even playing better ball than Clausen which is dishearting yet true. What is even more disheartening is that Davidson worked under Weiss and had the same terminology and yet he has continued to struggle. I thought Carolina drafting him was a great opportunity for him to have early success and yet it has been the latter.

Timeout.

The Rams play the weakest (or very close to) schedule in the NFL. At least they are in the weakest division. The NFC South, on the other hand, has Atlanta (best record in the NFC), New Orleans (defending champs) and a pretty darn good Tampa team. 2 wins in the NFC South is about equal to 6 wins for the Rams in the NFC West. Plus the Rams were trying to get better whereas Carolina was trying to dump payroll. Yeah, for sure Bradford has outplayed Clausen to this point, but please don't act like he has less talent around him or that the Rams are having a good season.

As for Tebow, he has played one game. You're going to make a conclusion on one game? In that case Rex Grossman is the best QB in the league because he threw for 322 and 4 TDs in his one start. That's 5152 yards and 64 TDs if you extrapolate. My point is, don't pretend like Tebow proved anything in one game. And on that note... did you watch it? Because I did. He had one good run on a play he screwed up and a handful of OK throws. He also made just as many or more bad throws/decisions in his start as I saw Clausen make tonight.

Anyone who thought Carolina would be as competitive this year as it had been in previous years has not watched the decline of Steve Smith or their offseason moves for the past two seasons. They have been deliberately blowing up the team and cutting cost across the board. That's why Clausen was supposed to ride the pine this year and take a year of learning because this team is basically at ground zero with plans on rebuilding after the CBA is all worked out.

 

[calvegas04]

Put Reese in, bench Jimmy

 

[military_irish]

Put Reese in, bench Jimmy

you mean Golson he is the popular name these days

 

[DomerBoy]

Timeout.

The Rams play the weakest (or very close to) schedule in the NFL. At least they are in the weakest division. The NFC South, on the other hand, has Atlanta (best record in the NFC), New Orleans (defending champs) and a pretty darn good Tampa team. 2 wins in the NFC South is about equal to 6 wins for the Rams in the NFC West. Plus the Rams were trying to get better whereas Carolina was trying to dump payroll. Yeah, for sure Bradford has outplayed Clausen to this point, but please don't act like he has less talent around him or that the Rams are having a good season.

As for Tebow, he has played one game. You're going to make a conclusion on one game? In that case Rex Grossman is the best QB in the league because he threw for 322 and 4 TDs in his one start. That's 5152 yards and 64 TDs if you extrapolate. My point is, don't pretend like Tebow proved anything in one game. And on that note... did you watch it? Because I did. He had one good run on a play he screwed up and a handful of OK throws. He also made just as many or more bad throws/decisions in his start as I saw Clausen make tonight.

Anyone who thought Carolina would be as competitive this year as it had been in previous years has not watched the decline of Steve Smith or their offseason moves for the past two seasons. They have been deliberately blowing up the team and cutting cost across the board. That's why Clausen was supposed to ride the pine this year and take a year of learning because this team is basically at ground zero with plans on rebuilding after the CBA is all worked out.

Come talk to me after this Sunday, you will be eating your words.

 

[devolg]

10-of-23 for 72 yards & a pick is pathetic

 

[SoDakDomer]

It is frustrating to watch. He is never able to get into a rythm with the protection issues and the penalty issues. When he actually does have time, his throws are sometimes innaccurate. The other times his recievers won't catch the good passes or even be looking for a pass. His accuracy issues baffle me the most?

 

[Dizzyphil]

Clausen's arm is terrible. A couple of those passes I was like "this can't be the same guy". His WRs aren't helping either.

On the Dan Patrick show the other day, he had Chris Mortensen on and they both agreed that JC should have stayed his Senior year to develop more accuracy in his arm. I have watched the Panthers a lot this year and he does tend to hold the ball in the pocket too long - direct relation that his receivers can't get open or he is not seeing them well.

Diz

 

[kmoose]

Is anyone watching ESPN right now? They just said that they had seen enough of Jimmy Clausen to know he's a bust and that they should draft Luck because he is a no miss prospect.

There is so much wrong with that analysis I'm not even going to start. Good work Tedy Bruschi and Mark Schlereth.

They probably said the same thing about Art Schlister, Todd Marinovich, Ryan Leaf, Kyle Boller, and Jamarcus Russell.

 

[phork]

No such thing as a no miss prospect, sorry. Clausen and Quinn will never get anywhere in the NFL unfortunately.

 

[Jerry]

Carolina sucks. The thing with Andrew Luck is he's behind a massive, veteran offensive line at Stanford. So hopefully they can evaluate how he'll play when he has no time to throw the ball to awful receivers and no running game. Also Luck has really only one good season under his belt. I'd be weary of putting that much money into a #1 pick who's played one good season.

 

[irishff1014]

That team is kinda like my redskins they don't have much talent at all.

 

[betecd]

One thing I am now more than ever convinced about is that in being an Irish fan it is tough for me to really make the right call on Irish prospects in the NFL. The last sure fire player I was right about was Tuck and he could hardly find the field his first year. As a Bills fan as well I was not exactly disapointed we passed on Clausen but that may have been more of a reflection as to how I could be so wrong that QUinn has not been able to suceed as a starter in the NFL.

 

[Jerry]

I think being a successful QB in the NFL is all about getting into a good situation with a solid OL. Does anybody really think Mark Sanchez would be anything if he didn't land on a good Jet's team with a bunch of good players around him. He's not that great with all those players around him.

 

[DomerBoy]

Timeout.

The Rams play the weakest (or very close to) schedule in the NFL. At least they are in the weakest division. The NFC South, on the other hand, has Atlanta (best record in the NFC), New Orleans (defending champs) and a pretty darn good Tampa team. 2 wins in the NFC South is about equal to 6 wins for the Rams in the NFC West. Plus the Rams were trying to get better whereas Carolina was trying to dump payroll. Yeah, for sure Bradford has outplayed Clausen to this point, but please don't act like he has less talent around him or that the Rams are having a good season.

As for Tebow, he has played one game. You're going to make a conclusion on one game? In that case Rex Grossman is the best QB in the league because he threw for 322 and 4 TDs in his one start. That's 5152 yards and 64 TDs if you extrapolate. My point is, don't pretend like Tebow proved anything in one game. And on that note... did you watch it? Because I did. He had one good run on a play he screwed up and a handful of OK throws. He also made just as many or more bad throws/decisions in his start as I saw Clausen make tonight.

Anyone who thought Carolina would be as competitive this year as it had been in previous years has not watched the decline of Steve Smith or their offseason moves for the past two seasons. They have been deliberately blowing up the team and cutting cost across the board. That's why Clausen was supposed to ride the pine this year and take a year of learning because this team is basically at ground zero with plans on rebuilding after the CBA is all worked out.

come talk to me, still not sold that Tebow is better than Clausen to this point. Outplayed two weeks in a row.

 

[CanadianIrish]

Clausen is definitely looking like a bust at this point. No matter how big of a pollyanna Notre Dame fan you are, you cannot deny he's playing like crap. Now he's making enough money that he's set for life, and will likely get to be a backup for his career, but one has to wonder if he'd come back would he have been in a better position for an NFL career?