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@Matt_NBC4: OSU four-star WR commit Roger Lewis Jr. charged with 2 counts of rape

That should say FORMER OSU commit Roger Lewis. OSU dropped him earlier this month because of academics, but this might have played a role as well.
 

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Is it bad luck that Urban's recruits get in trouble or Karma?

FU(K O$U
 

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Having lived in Ohio all my life I try hard not to hate on Ohio State, especially since my wife's family are all big fans. I try to look at Ohio State as a friend, because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I also have been semi-regular at BuckeyePlanet since they invited Notre Dame fans over for the Fiesta Bowl several years ago.

On the other hand, I find that many Ohio State fans have some sort of unnatural and seemingly unnecessary hatred towards Notre Dame fans, and I cannot understand why. Some claim it's media bias and self entitlement over the NBC contract, others claim it's Notre Dame's snub to joining the Big 10, still others will claim we take recruits from their state. I've heard some other reasons over the years, but they're all just silly. For starters, the NBC deal ain't all that sweet in the modern age with the new networks popping up lately. The recruiting angle is absurd as many of the players that come out of Ohio often come from the Catholic high schools there or areas like Cinci that were never strong Ohio State recruiting locations. The snub to the Big 10...really? We've been Independant forever, did you really think Notre Dame is going to go from being a national face and playing all over the country so we can localize ourselves to just the midwest? It doesn't make sense from a business perspective, and until those dynamics change we'll continue to be Independant for as long as possible I imagine.

The whole Notre Dame to Big 10 argument is just silly to begin with. I often see Ohio State fans state that thier Big 10 brothers should just quit scheduling Notre Dame all together and force them to join the Big 10 for such privileges. Yeah, cause picking up another Big 10 school like Indiana or a MAC would be so much more profitable for Purdue, Michigan State, and Michigan. Don't get me wrong, I love playing these old rivalries (As much as I've despised the string of Michigan State wins and recent last second heroics of Michigan). On the other hand, if the Big 10 banded together and refused to schedule Notre Dame unless they joined, I don't think it would be too hard to find opponents. If you take in account that most of our Big 10 games come at the beginning of the season we would probably have little difficulty picking up decent replacements given that most teams are playing non-conference teams anyway in September.
 

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Having lived in Ohio all my life I try hard not to hate on Ohio State, especially since my wife's family are all big fans. I try to look at Ohio State as a friend, because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I also have been semi-regular at BuckeyePlanet since they invited Notre Dame fans over for the Fiesta Bowl several years ago.

On the other hand, I find that many Ohio State fans have some sort of unnatural and seemingly unnecessary hatred towards Notre Dame fans, and I cannot understand why. Some claim it's media bias and self entitlement over the NBC contract, others claim it's Notre Dame's snub to joining the Big 10, still others will claim we take recruits from their state. I've heard some other reasons over the years, but they're all just silly. For starters, the NBC deal ain't all that sweet in the modern age with the new networks popping up lately. The recruiting angle is absurd as many of the players that come out of Ohio often come from the Catholic high schools there or areas like Cinci that were never strong Ohio State recruiting locations. The snub to the Big 10...really? We've been Independant forever, did you really think Notre Dame is going to go from being a national face and playing all over the country so we can localize ourselves to just the midwest? It doesn't make sense from a business perspective, and until those dynamics change we'll continue to be Independant for as long as possible I imagine.

The whole Notre Dame to Big 10 argument is just silly to begin with. I often see Ohio State fans state that thier Big 10 brothers should just quit scheduling Notre Dame all together and force them to join the Big 10 for such privileges. Yeah, cause picking up another Big 10 school like Indiana or a MAC would be so much more profitable for Purdue, Michigan State, and Michigan. Don't get me wrong, I love playing these old rivalries (As much as I've despised the string of Michigan State wins and recent last second heroics of Michigan). On the other hand, if the Big 10 banded together and refused to schedule Notre Dame unless they joined, I don't think it would be too hard to find opponents. If you take in account that most of our Big 10 games come at the beginning of the season we would probably have little difficulty picking up decent replacements given that most teams are playing non-conference teams anyway in September.


Good post. The old "don't schedule ND" argument by some in the Big Ten is nearly as old as college football itself. I can't recall if it was conference loyalty, conference self-interest, or anti-Catholic prejudice, or some sort of combination (maybe I'll look it up), but it's been there since the turn of the LAST century or thereabouts.

The reason Big Ten schools continue to do so is the same reason most schools do what they do re college football: $. Either directly or indirectly, such scheduling is good for their programs and enriches their brand.

Re Ohio State and ND, I hate Ohio State. No excuses, no qualifications. I have personal reasons and football reasons and just reasons in general equity. I hate Woody Hayes, John Cooper, Earl Bruce, Jim Tressel, and now Urbie. ND is a greater football program, historically, without all the low entrance qualification, sleazy alumni, and wimpy administration advantages Ohio State has. Even now, Ohio State schedules mostly sorry OOC teams, when combined with a weak conference schedule (still one of the weakest and one in which they normally duck one or two of even the better conference teams) amounts to an overrated program. This is the main reason they get schooled when they play SEC teams. I would root for the Al Qaida Eleven against Ohio State every single day of the week and twice a day during Ramadan.
 
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