Nov 7 | Clemson

[NDisme]

No chance Dabo doesn’t let him play. Always felt Dabo and Jimbo Fisher are the southern church going boys but they are win at any cost even if I’m a huge slime ball type guys. He’ll play and yea if he plays well it’ll be his Heisman moment

 

[NDVirginia19]

No chance Dabo doesn’t let him play. Always felt Dabo and Jimbo Fisher are the southern church going boys but they are win at any cost even if I’m a huge slime ball type guys. He’ll play and yea if he plays well it’ll be his Heisman moment

Exactly, as if Dabo was caught off guard by the wide spread Ostarine usage two years ago

 

[Irish YJ]

What's nuts though is that it seems like they're setting up a scenario for him to be a conquering hero with a "Heisman" moment. I can just see ESPN cameras filming him arriving at the South Bend airport early Saturday morning; the media buzz about whether he's going to play or not; his teammates getting fired up when he arrives after a week+ of isolation. Is that going to help them win the game? No, I'd much rather play Lawrence with a little rust. But there was already going to be a ton of juice for that game and now it's going to get turned up to 11.

Perhaps he'll have a police escorted limo moment arriving at the stadium lol...

I'm going to put my money on they rule him out mid next week. It'll still be 11, and perhaps even a bigger story if the 5 star true frosh leads them at ND

 

[Irish YJ]

Say they have several more positive tests and are unable to play next week. We already moved WF to our open date. Would this get cancelled, or could the ACC say they'd rather have ND/Clemson?

I was just thinking this too. No way they'd keep WF if they could resched Clemson.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Exactly, as if Dabo was caught off guard by the wide spread Ostarine usage two years ago

It was just some ole hair gel they used on the ROY (rest of y'all) bus.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

I was just thinking this too. No way they'd keep WF if they could resched Clemson.

Agreed. But there has to be some bylaws or something protecting Wake Forest in keeping the ND game I'd assume. It'd look bad on the conference to cancel a game and replace it with another.

 

[Irish YJ]

Agreed. But there has to be some bylaws or something protecting Wake Forest in keeping the ND game I'd assume. It'd look bad on the conference to cancel a game and replace it with another.

I don't think it would look bad at all. WF is out of the ACCC picture. They might even have some rules around rescheduling, giving preference to better record teams. It'll be interesting to see what they do. I wonder if there are any published info about ACC rescheds.

 

[TorontoGold]

Has a slight Georgia 2017 feel to it, Eason going down and Fromm stepping in. Although both of Clemson's QB's are better lol.

 

[Irish YJ]

Has a slight Georgia 2017 feel to it, Eason going down and Fromm stepping in. Although both of Clemson's QB's are better lol.

Fromm was a 98, and #3 nationally. So not by much.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

I don't think it would look bad at all. WF is out of the ACCC picture. They might even have some rules around rescheduling, giving preference to better record teams. It'll be interesting to see what they do. I wonder if there are any published info about ACC rescheds.

I doubt it. I would assume that kind of stuff is hidden behind ACC doors before the season. I'd figure there'd be whole list of tiebreakers for these situations. But the precedent would be audacious. Cancel a game to get a better matchup late season because of COVID earlier in the season? The only way that would go down is if WF got a massive payday for having the game cancelled.

 

[Irish YJ]

I doubt it. I would assume that kind of stuff is hidden behind ACC doors before the season. But the precedent would be audacious. Cancel a game to get a better matchup late season because of COVID earlier in the season? The only way that would go down is if WF got a massive payday for having the game cancelled.

IDK. I don't think cancelling a meaningless game for a meaningful and CFP impacting matchup would be controversial at all. Why does WF "deserve" a reschedule more than Clemson?

 

[TheRealLynch51]

IDK. I don't think cancelling a meaningless game for a meaningful and CFP impacting matchup would be controversial at all. Why does WF "deserve" a reschedule more than Clemson?

The benefits of being a full time member of the ACC versus ND being a part time member.

 

[Irish YJ]

The benefits of being a full time member of the ACC versus ND being a part time member.

has nothing to do with ND's status. It would be more about WF vs Clemson status, and meaningfulness.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Great.
Now this match up won't be exciting once Clemson drops in the rankings after Phil beats Clemson this Saturday...

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[AvesEvo]

So now ND has to plan for two QBs?

 

[TheRealLynch51]

has nothing to do with ND's status. It would be more about WF vs Clemson status, and meaningfulness.

Because the ACC isn't going to disrespect a full time conference member to juice ratings for one game in a season later on. I know COVID presents "unprecedented times", but that's such a short sighted move that could potentially have long term effects. I'm sure the ACC is completely fine with both ND and Clemson winning out (without playing each other), and then having the ACC championship become the premiere matchup in college football for a conference championship. A bonified playoff play in game with no argument from anyone that the winner is in. HUGE game.

 

[NorthDakota]

Exactly, as if Dabo was caught off guard by the wide spread Ostarine usage two years ago

I'm sure most coaches are content to flirt with the edges of what is allowed but yeah some of these guys are 100% doing shady shit that isn't allowed.

Clemson went from having a verb named after them for not showing up in any big game to recruiting juggernauts and perennial title contenders. No kid outside of South Carolina has ever dreamed of playing football for Clemson. It doesn't make sense until you add an extra variable to the equation.

 

[Irish YJ]

Because the ACC isn't going to disrespect a full time conference member to juice ratings for one game in a season later on. I know COVID presents "unprecedented times", but that's such a short sighted move that could potentially have long term effects. I'm sure the ACC is completely fine with both ND and Clemson winning out (without playing each other), and then having the ACC championship become the premiere matchup in college football for a conference championship. A bonified playoff play in game with no argument from anyone that the winner is in. HUGE game.

WF needs the ACC more than vise versa.... There's a reason why they allow ND to be a part time member. Again, this isn't about ND vs WF. It would be WF vs Clemson.

Not saying a ACCC game wouldn't be huge without the in-season game, but a ND win in-season vs a TL-less Clemson or late win vs TL, and then a rematch, is a bigger storyline. Two huge games vs one.

The only reason why they don't do it, is that the games would be back to back games.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

I'm sure most coaches are content to flirt with the edges of what is allowed but yeah some of these guys are 100% doing shady shit that isn't allowed.

Clemson went from having a verb named after them for not showing up in any big game to recruiting juggernauts and perennial title contenders. No kid outside of South Carolina has ever dreamed of playing football for Clemson. It doesn't make sense until you add an extra variable to the equation.

The bagman cometh.

 

[NorthDakota]

So now ND has to plan for two QBs?

I presume they plan for T Law. If he somehow doesn't play, you get to pay a less accomplished kid playing in his first big college game against a talented defense.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

WF needs the ACC more than vise versa.... There's a reason why they allow ND to be a part time member. Again, this isn't about ND vs WF. It would be WF vs Clemson.

Not saying a ACCC game wouldn't be huge without the in-season game, but a ND win in-season vs a TL-less Clemson or late win vs TL, and then a rematch, is a bigger storyline. Two huge games vs one.

The only reason why they don't do it, is that the games would be back to back games.

That's a difference of opinion. ND gets smacked the first time around and ratings will be much lower for the rematch. It's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

 

[Irish YJ]

That's a difference of opinion. ND gets smacked the first time around and ratings will be low for the rematch.

There's still more potential.... WF/ND has zero potential for ratings.

NDvsClem #1 will be huge. #2 has even more, or less, depending on #1 result.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

I presume they plan for T Law. If he somehow doesn't play, you get to pay a less accomplished kid playing in his first big college game against a talented defense.

Agreed. I'm perfectly fine with gameplanning heavily for TL. And if he doesn't play, letting a Freshman playing in his first big game try to beat us is fine. I'll trust Lea here.

 

[Irish YJ]

That's a difference of opinion. ND gets smacked the first time around and ratings will be much lower for the rematch. It's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

One game, the first, is guaranteed to have high ratings.

If you only play one, you have zero chance at big ratings for a second.

If #1 is good, or even close, #2 is still big.

You're basically happy with only one, with no chance at a second. I'd rather have 1 guarantee, and a shot at 2.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

There's still more potential.... WF/ND has zero potential for ratings.

NDvsClem #1 will be huge. #2 has even more, or less, depending on #1 result.

An undefeated ND team draws huge ratings from all the casual fans that follow ND (unlike us here.) Have ND lose and they drop off heavily. ND takes an L to Clemson a week before they play again, and they all disappear. Also factor in all the other conference fans watching to see which team from the ACC is going to the dance, and that will dwarf the ratings of having ND/Clemson play two weeks in a row.

 

[Irish YJ]

I presume they plan for T Law. If he somehow doesn't play, you get to pay a less accomplished kid playing in his first big college game against a talented defense.

DJU is a bit more of a runner than TL. Not a dual threat per say, but better running stats in HS than TL. Not a huge difference, but I think he'd probably use his legs more given his green-ness, so it's something we might have to practice for too.

 

[dad4aa]

So, since TL tested positive yesterday, is yesterday "day 1" of the quarantine or is today "day 1"? If it is today, then day 10 is November 7th and he should not be eligible to play.

 

[Irish YJ]

An undefeated ND team draws huge ratings from all the casual fans that follow ND (unlike us here.) Have ND lose and they drop off heavily. ND takes an L to Clemson a week before they play again, and they all disappear. Also factor in all the other conference fans watching to see which team from the ACC is going to the dance, and that will dwarf the ratings of having ND/Clemson play two weeks in a row.

Again, the first game is guaranteed. So what if your ratings come one week before? If it's remotely close, the ratings increase for #2. If we get smoked in #1, who cares lol. Like I said, I'll take the chance of having 2.

And what if we get beat by NC which could propel NC into the ACCC vs the winner of ND/Clem. At least if Clemson were rescheduled, we'd still have a shot to make it to the ACCC.

 

[ab2cmiller]

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[TheRealLynch51]

Again, the first game is guaranteed. So what if your ratings come one week before? If it's remotely close, the ratings increase for #2. If we get smoked in #1, who cares lol. Like I said, I'll take the chance of having 2.

And what if we get beat by NC which could propel NC into the ACCC vs the winner of ND/Clem. At least if Clemson were rescheduled, we'd still have a shot to make it to the ACCC.

Wishful thinking. The ACC is not going to cancel an already scheduled game to replace it with another one for a better matchup. This situation has never happened before.