Nov 10 | Florida State

[ab2cmiller]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MBB: For those going to the Florida State game Saturday, Brey invited everyone inside Purcell at 2 PM to watch the Irish practice.</p>— &#55356;&#57280;ND Hoops Recruits (@NDHoopsRecruits) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDHoopsRecruits/status/1060717705244872704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Irish YJ]

Surprised they're all anti-Francois starting. Not that he has been good by any means, but little can be blamed on him IMO.

I think it has more to do with Blackman throwing for 4TDs last week than anything else.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I think it has more to do with Blackman throwing for 4TDs last week than anything else.

That's not surprising, but they should probably know that NC State's pass defense is ranked 129th in the country. They are literally the second worst pass defense in college football. To put it in context, WF's backup QB Jamie Newman was 22/33 for nearly 300 yards and 3 TD's and no picks. He also had a solid 44 yards rushing.

To put it simply, they couldn't cover a tackling dummy with gloves taped to it, much less division I athletes.

 

[benneboy]

I think it has more to do with Blackman throwing for 4TDs last week than anything else.

From listening to one of the podcasts it sounded more like almost everyone on the team didn't like Francois. The fans definitely don't.

 

[Dizzyphil]

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[Irish YJ]

That's not surprising, but they should probably know that NC State's pass defense is ranked 129th in the country. They are literally the second worst pass defense in college football. To put it in context, WF's backup QB Jamie Newman was 22/33 for nearly 300 yards and 3 TD's and no picks. He also had a solid 44 yards rushing.

To put it simply, they couldn't cover a tackling dummy with gloves taped to it, much less division I athletes.

Fans don't care about NC State's back end... lol. They have enough history with Francois to cheer for any back up who is the least bit successful. Facts don't matter to angry fans who just saw a 4TD game.... you're giving FSU fans way too much credit

From listening to one of the podcasts it sounded more like almost everyone on the team didn't like Francois. The fans definitely don't.

I agree fans don't like him. They'll hop on any bandwagon, and Blackman's bandwagon is huge right now I'd bet.

 

[Irishize]

Silly to copy the '15 Sham Series jersey scheme. I'll just wear Malik's #8 and put the $90 towards some of these UA fitted hats. Nooooice.

Are they fitted or M/L, L/XL? Under Armour runs small so I can’t wear their hats unless they’re the fitted ones that the baseball team wears. I hate that b/c they look sharp.

 

[Irishize]

Fans don't care about NC State's back end... lol. They have enough history with Francois to cheer for any back up who is the least bit successful. Facts don't matter to angry fans who just saw a 4TD game.... you're giving FSU fans way too much credit



I agree fans don't like him. They'll hop on any bandwagon, and Blackman's bandwagon is huge right now I'd bet.

I heard College Sports Radio on XM say that FSU will start Francois w/ intent of replacing him when/if things go south. If not, they know he would just quit and not be worth bringing in for Blackman should he not pan out. Plus, I think they’d like to preserve the year of eligibility for Blackman.

 

[Irishize]

We beat Michigan with Wimbush and without Dex.

FSU RBs average about 0.5 yards before contact.

We execute, we win.

But we had Bars then, too. Defense needs to win this game. Shut down the FSU offense and BW can lead the offense to enough points (likely less than 30 based on first 3 games w/ BW) to win.

 

[Irishize]

BK is always overly optimistic about injuries in public comments (purposely, I'm sure), but our own IE brethren with good sources say he should be ready for Syracuse, though it might be more questionable than BK lets on.

Personally, based on everything we've heard and what sources have said, it sounds like he'll probably play against Syracuse as long as there is no setback.

TIFWIW but I listened to the II podcast this morning. Both Tims & Pete all cited their best individual source who told them Book is out for SU.

 

[Crazy Balki]

BK is always overly optimistic about injuries in public comments (purposely, I'm sure), but our own IE brethren with good sources say he should be ready for Syracuse, though it might be more questionable than BK lets on.

Personally, based on everything we've heard and what sources have said, it sounds like he'll probably play against Syracuse as long as there is no setback.

Not really. Kelly is either pretty crystal clear or pretty vague. I don't expect him to shed light on Book's availability simply because that only makes it easier to plan for if you're Syracuse.

But yeah, seems like most signs are pointing towards him being out this week and back for Syracuse, barring a setback.

 

[Crazy Balki]

But we had Bars then, too. Defense needs to win this game. Shut down the FSU offense and BW can lead the offense to enough points (likely less than 30 based on first 3 games w/ BW) to win.

I think having Dexter and better receivers more than makes up for the loss of Bars. And no, the receivers aren't just better because Book was inserted.

 

[IrishFanForever23]

Not really. Kelly is either pretty crystal clear or pretty vague. I don't expect him to shed light on Book's availability simply because that only makes it easier to plan for if you're Syracuse.

But yeah, seems like most signs are pointing towards him being out this week and back for Syracuse, barring a setback.

I think Kelly is just saying that to be honest. He doesn’t want Syracuse only having to gameplan for Wimbush. ISD responded today to a post that ND and Book’s family want this under wraps, it’s a serious injury, and not just a let’s rest him because it’s FSU. They make it sound grim.
https://irishsportsdaily.com/forums/1/topics/29128

 

[IrishLion]

Not really. Kelly is either pretty crystal clear or pretty vague. I don't expect him to shed light on Book's availability simply because that only makes it easier to plan for if you're Syracuse.

But yeah, seems like most signs are pointing towards him being out this week and back for Syracuse, barring a setback.

"Not really" what?

Kelly is being optimistic about Book's return, as he usually is with injuries. That optimism is usually intentional, because it's gamesmanship, and creates uncertainty in the opponent's preparation.

 

[Irish YJ]

I think Kelly is just saying that to be honest. He doesn’t want Syracuse only having to gameplan for Wimbush. ISD responded today to a post that ND and Book’s family want this under wraps, it’s a serious injury, and not just a let’s rest him because it’s FSU. They make it sound grim.
https://irishsportsdaily.com/forums/1/topics/29128

BK has been very optimistic about about Book's injury... So, if grim, and he's for sure out vs Cuse, then BK is lying.

Is ISD more likely to play things up for clicks/drama/pay, or is BK more likely to lie?

The injury info that came out was very specific (hairline rib / grade 1 kid). Grade 1 is not serious, and has a two week heal time. Ribs are painful, but something lots of athletes play through, especially if only a hairline. If the grade 1 heals, a little extra padding is all it takes to get him back in the game. After all, he played the entire 2nd half and looked very good.

Guess we'll know in a week.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

BK has been very optimistic about about Book's injury... So, if grim, and he's for sure out vs Cuse, then BK is lying.

Is ISD more likely to play things up for clicks/drama/pay, or is BK more likely to lie?

The injury info that came out was very specific (hairline rib / grade 1 kid). Grade 1 is not serious, and has a two week heal time. Ribs are painful, but something lots of athletes play through, especially if only a hairline. If the grade 1 heals, a little extra padding is all it takes to get him back in the game. After all, he played the entire 2nd half and looked very good.

Guess we'll know in a week.

He played 3+ quarters with the fracture...tough as nails.

 

[Irish#1]

From 247

Per an announcement by the Notre Dame Twitter account, the Fighting Irish football team will wear green jerseys (and potentially all green uniforms) for Notre Dame's final home game this season.

I can't see that happening.

 

[Irish YJ]

He played 3+ quarters with the fracture...tough as nails.

F'ing baller. Love the guy, but that really pushes him up a couple notches for me. I was a little down on him for pulling up early on a few runs where I thought he could have gotten a few more yards and/or a first down... Not questioning his toughness anymore.

 

[IrishLion]

From 247

Per an announcement by the Notre Dame Twitter account, the Fighting Irish football team will wear green jerseys (and potentially all green uniforms) for Notre Dame's final home game this season.

I can't see that happening.

Can't see them wearing green? Or ALL green?

Cuz they're wearing green lol, just not ALL green.

 

[Circa]

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From 247

Per an announcement by the Notre Dame Twitter account, the Fighting Irish football team will wear green jerseys (and potentially all green uniforms) for Notre Dame's final home game this season.

I can't see that happening.

It's happening... with a montage of RUDY! for all you haters out her

 

[Irishize]

I think having Dexter and better receivers more than makes up for the loss of Bars. And no, the receivers aren't just better because Book was inserted.

I disagree. Bars was noted by many (Bryan Driskell, Pete Sampson, Tim Prister, etc) as the best offensive player overall before his injury. His loss is huge.

Dexter wouldn’t get on track vs Pitt or vs Northwestern b/c the OL couldn’t get a push to even allow a slight crease which is all he needs. Yes, they both brought the safeties down, too so I’ll cut the current OL some slack.

FSU is one of the better run defenses in the nation so now that they know there’s a QB playing who can hurt teams w/ his legs vs his arm, they’re going to try to suffocate the run & make BW beat them w/ the pass.

 

[Irishize]

From Douglas Farmer of NBC Sports:

With temps around 30 degrees expected Saturday at ND, I asked @CurtMWeiler if that should be an issue for FSU. He pointed out the 'Noles actually play in the cold about once/year.
2-1 in ~30 degree weather the last two years.
Not the big deal we make it out to be.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I disagree. Bars was noted by many (Bryan Driskell, Pete Sampson, Tim Prister, etc) as the best offensive player overall before his injury. His loss is huge.

Dexter wouldn’t get on track vs Pitt or vs Northwestern b/c the OL couldn’t get a push to even allow a slight crease which is all he needs. Yes, they both brought the safeties down, too so I’ll cut the current OL some slack.

FSU is one of the better run defenses in the nation so now that they know there’s a QB playing who can hurt teams w/ his legs vs his arm, they’re going to try to suffocate the run & make BW beat them w/ the pass.

I disagree. Williams has the ability to homerun on any carry, something Armstrong and Jones don't possess and thus teams don't have to account for. Keep in mind that Armstrong was still learning the position and he had his struggles.

The loss of Bars hurts, but so did having guys who struggled to get open and block consistently on the perimeter. So did not having a guy in the backfield that teams had to plan for.

I think the OL is getting better each week, but it's more than just bringing safeties down. Long has to attack the perimeter every once in a while. The OL is struggling to generate a ton of push because teams know what's coming 90% of the time on the run. They have been frustratingly predictable in run calls recently, especially against NW, where they are very strong up front and can stuff the run extremely well. But we just kept trying to run it up the gut for some reason.

 

[Irish YJ]

Not sure I understand the thinking that the WRs improved over last year, without acknowledging the change to Book is without question the biggest factor. WRs now can expect well timed and accurate throws, instead of sporadic tosses "in the vicinity".

Additionally, ESB or Stepherson would have benefited big time from timing and accuracy, likely more than Boykin who is slower and big bodied.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Not sure I understand the thinking that the WRs improved over last year, without acknowledging the change to Book is without question the biggest factor. WRs now can expect well timed and accurate throws, instead of sporadic tosses "in the vicinity".

Additionally, ESB or Stepherson would have benefited big time from timing and accuracy, likely more than Boykin who is slower and big bodied.

I never said Book played a major factor, but you look at guys like Claypool and Boykin (especially Claypool). They didn't suddenly get better when Book was inserted.

Boykin finally came along vs. Stanford and Claypool finally had his breakout game vs. Northwestern. Especially early on, they were very disappointing, and it wasn't just because of Wimbush. Claypool in particular, a guy known for being a stellar blocker, was horrible the first few weeks. The effort and consistency wasn't there at all.

I'm all for giving Book his due, but these guys did Wimbush very little favors early on.

 

[Irish YJ]

I never said Book played a major factor, but you look at guys like Claypool and Boykin (especially Claypool). They didn't suddenly get better when Book was inserted.

Boykin finally came along vs. Stanford and Claypool finally had his breakout game vs. Northwestern. Especially early on, they were very disappointing, and it wasn't just because of Wimbush. Claypool in particular, a guy known for being a stellar blocker, was horrible the first few weeks. The effort and consistency wasn't there at all.

I'm all for giving Book his due, but these guys did Wimbush very little favors early on.

I would not expect anyone to instantly become better. It's hard for guys to develop when their getting inaccurate and poorly timed tosses. To me, the improvement is because they are finally getting reps (game and practice) with a QB they can rely on. Claypool did though have a very good game in Books first start. Boykin broke out second. The only challenge now for the WRs, is that Book distributes so well to just about everyone on the field.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I would not expect anyone to instantly become better. It's hard for guys to develop when their getting inaccurate and poorly timed tosses. To me, the improvement is because they are finally getting reps (game and practice) with a QB they can rely on. Claypool did though have a very good game in Books first start. Boykin broke out second. The only challenge now for the WRs, is that Book distributes so well to just about everyone on the field.

I don't think Claypool had a very good game v. Wake. It just so happened that was the game he finally found the endzone. He was pretty inconsistent that game both receiving and blocking. I think he finally got things going blocking wise the next week vs. Stanford. That being said, he's been pretty underwhelming all season up until last week in terms of catching the ball. That tells me that he wasn't getting open consistently or drops were an issue still. It's a big reason why quite a few people were calling for Kevin Austin to get more looks, myself included, because Claypool wasn't doing enough in the passing game. Hopefully he continues to improve and we see more of what we saw v. NW.

I think the guys who've truly benefited the most from Book are the TE's. To be fair to Wimbush, he didn't have much time to establish consistency with the TE's, given Kmet got hurt in the 2nd game and Mack has been inconsistent all season. But under Book, the TE's have seen an unarguable uptick in looks.

 

[Irish YJ]

I don't think Claypool had a very good game v. Wake. It just so happened that was the game he finally found the endzone. He was pretty inconsistent that game both receiving and blocking. I think he finally got things going blocking wise the next week vs. Stanford. That being said, he's been pretty underwhelming all season up until last week in terms of catching the ball. That tells me that he wasn't getting open consistently or drops were an issue still. It's a big reason why quite a few people were calling for Kevin Austin to get more looks, myself included, because Claypool wasn't doing enough in the passing game. Hopefully he continues to improve and we see more of what we saw v. NW.

I think the guys who've truly benefited the most from Book are the TE's. To be fair to Wimbush, he didn't have much time to establish consistency with the TE's, given Kmet got hurt in the 2nd game and Mack has been inconsistent all season. But under Book, the TE's have seen an unarguable uptick in looks.

Austin will be a lot better than Chase IMO. I also want to see more. Disagree on Chase's game vs WF though. Blocking aside, he was arguably the best catching WR that day. Tied for most WR receptions, 2nd in WR yards (only because of Youngs 1 reception for 66).

 

[IrishBoognish]

Wait, hold up... wait wait WAIT!!!!

FSU really has a turnover backpack?

I haven't seen them play all year, I really thought that was something one of the guys on IE made up to have a little fun.
Imagine my surprise when I saw it mentioned on a Noles board.


These cats have a turnover backpack and I have so many questions:

Is it just an empty backpack?

Who chose what backpack they'd use?

Did nobody stand up in the locker room and explain why it's not a good idea?

Surely they cant still be parading around with this thing, right?

Was there a moment where they were like... yo... enough's enough. We suck and I ain't wearing that backpack.

Were there other ideas that the backpack beat out?

 

[irishnd31]

Wait, hold up... wait wait WAIT!!!!

FSU really has a turnover backpack?

I haven't seen them play all year, I really thought that was something one of the guys on IE made up to have a little fun.
Imagine my surprise when I saw it mentioned on a Noles board.


These cats have a turnover backpack and I have so many questions:

Is it just an empty backpack?

Who chose what backpack they'd use?

Did nobody stand up in the locker room and explain why it's not a good idea?

Surely they cant still be parading around with this thing, right?

Was there a moment where they were like... yo... enough's enough. We suck and I ain't wearing that backpack.

Were there other ideas that the backpack beat out?

It’s my understanding that it came down to a vote between the turnover backpack, a Dora the Explorer lunch box, and a Guardians of the Galaxy pencil box. Back pack took the win but only by a few votes.