Notre Dame Schedules

[Lou Holtz]

I am in the middle of Ohio State/UK country so i usually have to listen to idiots talk about Notre Dame having a "cupcake" schedule.

I think that it they are typically pretty tough schedules especially when Michigan and SC are ranked. I think however that it would not hurt to schedule a couple big schools in the near future.

How do some of you feel?

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

We have Oklahoma coming up. How many teams on ND's schedule went to a bowl game?

 

[Lou Holtz]

We have Oklahoma coming up. How many teams on ND's schedule went to a bowl game?

Forgot about that
2010 teams that made bowls last year were:
Michigan State (L Alamo Bowl)
Stanford (L Sun Bowl)
Boston College (L Emerald Bowl)
Pitt ( W Car Care Bowl)
Navy ( W Texas Bowl)
Utah ( W Poinsettia Bowl)
USC ( W Emerald Bowl)

No Bowl: Purdue, Michigan, Western Michigan, Tulsa Army
All teams were 5-7 i believe

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I don't think we'll ever see ND with a "cupcake" schedule. The schedule was the talk early in the season, but it looked pretty tough when it was over. There is so much parity in college sports today that no team can be taken lightly.

 

[kmoose]

I am in the middle of Ohio State/UK country so i usually have to listen to idiots talk about Notre Dame having a "cupcake" schedule.

I think that it they are typically pretty tough schedules especially when Michigan and SC are ranked. I think however that it would not hurt to schedule a couple big schools in the near future.

How do some of you feel?

Ask them if Navy is still a cupcake, now that they are on tOSU's schedule?

 

[irish4ever]

The vast majority of the ND haters/bashers are going to say the Irish have a "cupcake" schedule, whether there's any validity to it or not. And that's where this crap comes from ... nescient football "know-it-alls". Whether it's Colin Cowterd or Joe Blow in the pub, they'll bash ND regardless. Proof can be provided otherwise once the season is over, but they'll still argue saying it was a "cupcake" schedule. Once a ND 'basher', always a ND 'basher'!

 

[Lou Holtz]

The vast majority of the ND haters/bashers are going to say the Irish have a "cupcake" schedule, whether there's any validity to it or not. And that's where this crap comes from ... nescient football "know-it-alls". Whether it's Colin Cowterd or Joe Blow in the pub, they'll bash ND regardless. Proof can be provided otherwise once the season is over, but they'll still argue saying it was a "cupcake" schedule. Once a ND 'basher', always a ND 'basher'!

Yes and unfortunately i am completely surrounded by bashers... especially the UK people, they are the most arrogant fans i know of

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

If you want to see a cupcake schedule, take a look at Penn St.'s recent schedules. Pathetic.

 

[vernfootball1]

If you want to see a cupcake schedule, take a look at Penn St.'s recent schedules. Pathetic.

Agreed absolutely hate them, they play no one. And suck and people around in Philly try to tell me there good, you had one good season and you think your a dynasty.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

For a while there I thought ND's schedule was ridiculously tough and I wondered what the hell the AD and Admin was thinking.

I think they still have very tough schedules. People place too much emphasis on the name of the school. I think any team playing ND will go lights out, knowing that they are on national TV. It's probably their dream game and they are going to go lights out on every down.

 

[irish1958]

Bear Bryant used to quote the Lucky Strike Cigarettes "LSMFT" = light schedule makes fine team.
Penn State and Ohio State have always had mostly non-conference creampuffs; and before they joined the little ten, Penn State had a super light schedule.

 

[timm3117]

We have never played a cupcake schedule, but I hate when people say "look how many bowl teams we played". Doesn't almost everyone go to a bowl these days? How many 6-6 or 7-5 bowl teams were there last year. Just because a team went to the Hostess Cupcake Bowl, that doesn't mean it was a quality win for an elite program.

 

[irishtrain]

The vast majority of the ND haters/bashers are going to say the Irish have a "cupcake" schedule, whether there's any validity to it or not. And that's where this crap comes from ... nescient football "know-it-alls". Whether it's Colin Cowterd or Joe Blow in the pub, they'll bash ND regardless. Proof can be provided otherwise once the season is over, but they'll still argue saying it was a "cupcake" schedule. Once a ND 'basher', always a ND 'basher'!

Agree, and I also believe Colin Cowherd IS Joe Blow.

 

[ALA2262]

How about Bama in New Orleans in 2012?

Most, if not all, of you are aware than ND has an off site home game scheduled with Baylor in New Orleans in 2012. Few of you, if any, are also aware that Bama plays Tulane in New Orleans in 2012.

ND vs Baylor? Lame. Bama vs Tulane? Lame. Bama vs ND In New Orleans!? Now we're talking! Let Baylor play Tulane. Give us Bama vs. ND. All it would take is a buyout of Baylor by ND, a buyout of Tulane by Bama, and NBC to sweeten the pot to ND because Bama would require a 50-50 ticket split neutral site game rather than a ND off site home game.

 

[ALA2262]

I am in the middle of Ohio State/UK country so i usually have to listen to idiots talk about Notre Dame having a "cupcake" schedule.

I think that it they are typically pretty tough schedules especially when Michigan and SC are ranked. I think however that it would not hurt to schedule a couple big schools in the near future.

How do some of you feel?

I have attempted to give my thoughts on a potential future match up with Bama on two occasions in this forum. First was in a separate post when I first joined the site. Second was in answer to your question above. Neither post had a single word which violated your restrictions in posting. Neither post was approved for posting by your mods.

 

[johnnykillz]

I have attempted to give my thoughts on a potential future match up with Bama on two occasions in this forum. First was in a separate post when I first joined the site. Second was in answer to your question above. Neither post had a single word which violated your restrictions in posting. Neither post was approved for posting by your mods.

Relax brotha, I'm certain if it was censored it is because of your delivery method. I'm sure you probably know it, but this response, too, came across a little rough around the edges, so to speak.

I welcome a 'Bama fan to our site, so long as they aren't here to troll, that is, look for a fish to take a bite at some bait (which I'm certain many Alabama fans know how to do - fish.)

 

[BGIF]

Relax brotha, I'm certain if it was censored it is because of your delivery method. I'm sure you probably know it, but this response, too, came across a little rough around the edges, so to speak.

I welcome a 'Bama fan to our site, so long as they aren't here to troll, that is, look for a fish to take a bite at some bait (which I'm certain many Alabama fans know how to do - fish.)

No posts were censored.

 

[BGIF]

I have attempted to give my thoughts on a potential future match up with Bama on two occasions in this forum. First was in a separate post when I first joined the site. Second was in answer to your question above. Neither post had a single word which violated your restrictions in posting. Neither post was approved for posting by your mods.

Your first post was in the Introduction and Welcome Forums. Very few people if any read that forum.

 

[BGIF]

How about Bama in New Orleans in 2012?

Most, if not all, of you are aware than ND has an off site home game scheduled with Baylor in New Orleans in 2012. Few of you, if any, are also aware that Bama plays Tulane in New Orleans in 2012.

ND vs Baylor? Lame. Bama vs Tulane? Lame. Bama vs ND In New Orleans!? Now we're talking! Let Baylor play Tulane. Give us Bama vs. ND. All it would take is a buyout of Baylor by ND, a buyout of Tulane by Bama, and NBC to sweeten the pot to ND because Bama would require a 50-50 ticket split neutral site game rather than a ND off site home game.

The problem isn't ND. It's the SEC's contract for TV coverage and NBC. Most if not all Conference/TV Media contracts restrict conference members from playing a game in their conference territory unless it's shown on their network. ND's neutral games are shown on NBC where there is national coverage not just regional coverage.

When ND started putting the neutral site games together a couple of schools that initially expressed interest had to back out when their Conference or Media provider pointed out their Conference TV restrictions.

Baylor was a secondary consideration after SEC teams said they couldn't play in New Orleans on NBC. The thought was Baylor is not an SEC team so they wouldn't face a TV conflict playing in SEC land and woudn't come under their conference restricitions as they were out of their conference's territory. Washington St was the first choice to play in Austin last year. The initial plan was a Texas/Big 12 Team but the Big 12 had the same conference territorial TV conflict.

Swapping Baylor for Bama isn't viable because of TV complications. Playing Bama in Dallas could be done. Likewise playing Miami or FSU in New Orleans could be done as it's outside the ACC territory. Those two couldn't play ND in Atlanta as Georgia Tech is an ACC school and thus the ACC would demand TV rights iin Atlanta due to their contract.

BTW, ND and Bama had a home and home scheduled for '05 - '06 or '06 -'07. When the NCAA investigated and sanctioned Bama over Means, Bama AD Mal Moore contacted ND and asked to let out of the contract due to concerns over loss scholarships weakening the team. ND said OK. Moore has an excellant relationship with ND. Many Bama (and ND fans) aren't aware that Moore was an assistant coach at ND under Lou Holtz.

The Bama ND games of the past have generally been legendary games. I think a home and home is more likely to happen than ND/Bama at a neutral site.

 

[ACamp1900]

BlueandGold.com // The National Title Debate

 

[johnnykillz]

BlueandGold.com // The National Title Debate

So we still got it.

Someone needs to send this to ESPN.

 

[ALA2262]

LOL! So you guys are going to hijack this thread about future ND schedules to flame me about how NC's are counted. Sorry, but you are barking up the wrong tree. The only NC's that concern me are the last one and the next one. I'll leave the counting up to the Auburn folks. It is real easy for them to count their's because they wouldn't have the ONE they got in 1957 were it not for ND ending Oklahoma's 47 game winning streak. Here's a link for those of you too young to rermember.


ESPN.com - NCAA College Football - The 100

 

[ALA2262]

The problem isn't ND. It's the SEC's contract for TV coverage and NBC. Most if not all Conference/TV Media contracts restrict conference members from playing a game in their conference territory unless it's shown on their network. ND's neutral games are shown on NBC where there is national coverage not just regional coverage.

When ND started putting the neutral site games together a couple of schools that initially expressed interest had to back out when their Conference or Media provider pointed out their Conference TV restrictions.

Baylor was a secondary consideration after SEC teams said they couldn't play in New Orleans on NBC. The thought was Baylor is not an SEC team so they wouldn't face a TV conflict playing in SEC land and woudn't come under their conference restricitions as they were out of their conference's territory. Washington St was the first choice to play in Austin last year. The initial plan was a Texas/Big 12 Team but the Big 12 had the same conference territorial TV conflict.

Swapping Baylor for Bama isn't viable because of TV complications. Playing Bama in Dallas could be done. Likewise playing Miami or FSU in New Orleans could be done as it's outside the ACC territory. Those two couldn't play ND in Atlanta as Georgia Tech is an ACC school and thus the ACC would demand TV rights iin Atlanta due to their contract.

BTW, ND and Bama had a home and home scheduled for '05 - '06 or '06 -'07. When the NCAA investigated and sanctioned Bama over Means, Bama AD Mal Moore contacted ND and asked to let out of the contract due to concerns over loss scholarships weakening the team. ND said OK. Moore has an excellant relationship with ND. Many Bama (and ND fans) aren't aware that Moore was an assistant coach at ND under Lou Holtz.

The Bama ND games of the past have generally been legendary games. I think a home and home is more likely to happen than ND/Bama at a neutral site.

Thanks for the info and explanation. Guess we have to take the bad with the good with those TV contracts.

 

[Legacy]

Sagarin's SOS rankings for Big Ten and ND for 2009:
Minn -- 26
ND -- 37
Iowa -- 41
MSU -- 47
Illinois - 48
Ohio State -- 50
Purdue -- 57
Indiana -- 63
Wisconsin -- 64
Mich -- 72
Penn St -- 73
NW -- 80


As for Alabama's NCs,

Alabama's 12 Mythical National Championships | Bleacher Report

 

[ACamp1900]

The problem with this whole system of titles is many schools Bama and SC at the forefront... change their method for determining a champion each and every year to which ever system of logic benefits them the most...

seriously, use the consensus, use the AP... or whatever... pick a damn system and use it, but don't flip your logic constantly to expand your numbers...

as far as the schedules go no matter what we do we will be grilled in the media over it... despite how much it may burn some here a very good comparrison with the media and Notre Dame is the Media and their treatment of Conservatives... Notre Dame is literally damned if they do and damned if they don't with MANY members of the sports media... when people go on ESPN and say on the air they "refuse to respect any team that plays nothing but Air Force, Navy, Army and DII teams every single year." in regards to Notre Dame and NO ONE on the show says anything about the obvious mythology about what was just said.... well, that kind of stuff is the norm right now. The Solution is shut them all up by beating some big name teams...

 

[ALA2262]

"Alabama’s attempts to negotiate a 2012 game with Notre Dame have not produced an agreement. UA Director of Athletics Mal Moore hopes to meet with Notre Dame officials this summer to resume talks about a future game or series.

In the meantime, Alabama is still looking for a 2012 opponent and Cowboys Stadium has an opening. Brett Daniels, spokesman for Cowboys Stadium, said the facility is working with ESPN to provide a Labor Day-weekend game each season." - Tommy Deas.

UA has not agreed to Texas Tech game | TideSports.com