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Just got to watch the game...Pretty intense, physical win. Definitely locked up the one seed. I don't see any benefit to winning their next game. If they meet UVA in the tourney that really matters, which is very likely, it's so hard to beat a team 3 times in one year. I'd rest Lynch, play four lines, and get ready to repeat!
 
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I am planning on going to the ACC championship tournament and wanted to know if anyone had heard whether ND is going to sit its starters and get ready for the NCAA tournament, or are they going to take it serious and go for the ACC tourney championship?
 

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I am planning on going to the ACC championship tournament and wanted to know if anyone had heard whether ND is going to sit its starters and get ready for the NCAA tournament, or are they going to take it serious and go for the ACC tourney championship?
Good luck trying to find something like that out. IMO, they will all play, and compete...The players on this team are so driven. I hope they rest people, but don't think they will at all.
 

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I am planning on going to the ACC championship tournament and wanted to know if anyone had heard whether ND is going to sit its starters and get ready for the NCAA tournament, or are they going to take it serious and go for the ACC tourney championship?
As of today, they are playing to win. Haven't heard anything to suggest otherwise. Virginia NEEDS this game, ND doesn't, but the Kavanaghs and Corrigan don't have "taking one off" in their DNA.
 

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Yeah. Recruiting needs to get better. Couldn’t get a Freshman of the Year winner after a NC?
They can't get on the field, too many 4th 5th and even a 6th year guy gobbling up minutes.

Actually two freshman (Faison and Lyght) did play a lot. And they were excellent. But there were some highly touted freshman who didn't. Next year will be different, we're losing about half of our "regulars"
 

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As of today, they are playing to win. Haven't heard anything to suggest otherwise. Virginia NEEDS this game, ND doesn't, but the Kavanaghs and Corrigan don't have "taking one off" in their DNA.
You're a coach LAX....What would you do here?
 

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Don’t you still want that 1 seed? Personally I don’t see taking your foot off the gas before the NCAA tournament. Especially with the weather heating up.
 

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I have no idea what the committee will do if they lose to UVA.
UVA is still #6 RPI....I really don't think it matters if ND loses...I think they have the 1 locked up. They could possibly give it to Hopkins if they win out, but I just don't see it.
 

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As of today, they are playing to win. Haven't heard anything to suggest otherwise. Virginia NEEDS this game, ND doesn't, but the Kavanaghs and Corrigan don't have "taking one off" in their DNA.
I honestly could see this game coming down to which team can score more goals.
 

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I think it's tough because traditionally the team that wins the ACC tourney is beat up heading into the NCAA's and comes up short. You play two meat grinder games back-to-back and never come out 100% healthy.

If I'm ND, you don't change anything with your approach to the game, period. But personally I never would've brought back the ACC tourney... they did it because of that weird year where Duke/ND got excluded for a bunch of crappy Ivies and were like "we need to bake in more quality wins like these other teams get in their conference tournies."
 

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UVA is still #6 RPI....I really don't think it matters if ND loses...I think they have the 1 locked up. They could possibly give it to Hopkins if they win out, but I just don't see it.
I’m conflicted. I know it’s best to not have to go through an additional couple of games against dangerous teams. The UVA defense are gigantic and potentially dangerous. Beat them and you still have another monster game coming. We’ve been fortunate with injuries to this point but I don’t trust the committee. Honestly I don’t think the seed matters anyway because this is the best team in the country. I guess we will see how it plays out but good luck getting these guys to pull back off the throttle.
 

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I’m conflicted. I know it’s best to not have to go through an additional couple of games against dangerous teams. The UVA defense are gigantic and potentially dangerous. Beat them and you still have another monster game coming. We’ve been fortunate with injuries to this point but I don’t trust the committee. Honestly I don’t think the seed matters anyway because this is the best team in the country. I guess we will see how it plays out but good luck getting these guys to pull back off the throttle.
For sure...You can't pull off the throttle when you're on the field.....Which is why Corrigan needs to play it wisely and put a lot of different people on the field...Give Ricciardelli, Bayman, Walker, Busenkell, etc. A LOT of reps...and I 100% sit Lynch. He's been banged up...
Gotta see the bigger picture at this point and I just don't see any advantage to possibly beating UVA again during the regular season, and then having to face Cuse or Duke again...during the regular season. Odds are extremely high that they will face one, if not both of those teams again, once the tourney begins....and History has shown...specifically with Duke...that if ND sweeps the season series, when the game really matters, it's a lot tougher to win that 3rd game.
 

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For sure...You can't pull off the throttle when you're on the field.....Which is why Corrigan needs to play it wisely and put a lot of different people on the field...Give Ricciardelli, Bayman, Walker, Busenkell, etc. A LOT of reps...and I 100% sit Lynch. He's been banged up...
Gotta see the bigger picture at this point and I just don't see any advantage to possibly beating UVA again during the regular season, and then having to face Cuse or Duke again...during the regular season. Odds are extremely high that they will face one, if not both of those teams again, once the tourney begins....and History has shown...specifically with Duke...that if ND sweeps the season series, when the game really matters, it's a lot tougher to win that 3rd game.
I do like the idea of simply running more depth at the midfield and at FO but the moment you sit Kav or any of the close defenders the team is going to take a "que" from that which is tricky to navigate.
 

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Is the #1 seed that valuable? I wouldn't risk injuries for #1 as opposed to #2.
We've got the #1 seed regardless. The question is really what value you place on the ACC tournament. Years ago, it would be ton. But it's been diminished since Maryland left and it's not a true tournament anymore.
 

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I have no idea what the committee will do if they lose to UVA.
This. After the committee hosed us out of the tournament just a few years back, I recognize the very real possibility that an early ACC exit could drop us from the #1 overall seed.

Should it? Absolutely not.
Could it? Absolutely.
 

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This. After the committee hosed us out of the tournament just a few years back, I recognize the very real possibility that an early ACC exit could drop us from the #1 overall seed.

Should it? Absolutely not.
Could it? Absolutely.
Don’t think so. There’s no one who can pass us in either strength of schedule or strength of record with two losses. Those are the criteria they are using
 

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Don’t think so. There’s no one who can pass us in either strength of schedule or strength of record with two losses. Those are the criteria they are using
The argument the committee made for leaving ND out years ago was largely due to volume - we had less games on schedule and they faulted us for it. At least that was the argument they made. Those with and without tin foil hats can debate whether they truly felt that way or were biased against us and used it as a defense for keeping ND out.

ND sits at 10-1 and John’s Hopkins 2nd in RPI at 10-3. Their SoS is 8 spots higher than us and they played two more games.

It’s not unreasonable to at least consider the possibility they that make the same argument and do something similar, letting a conference champion that picks up a few more quality wins leapfrog a 10-2 Notre Dame that met an early ACC exit.

I still think it’s highly likely we end up with the 1-seed in this scenario - I just don’t think it’s a lock.
 

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The argument the committee made for leaving ND out years ago was largely due to volume - we had less games on schedule and they faulted us for it. At least that was the argument they made. Those with and without tin foil hats can debate whether they truly felt that way or were biased against us and used it as a defense for keeping ND out.

ND sits at 10-1 and John’s Hopkins 2nd in RPI at 10-3. Their SoS is 8 spots higher than us and they played two more games.

It’s not unreasonable to at least consider the possibility they that make the same argument and do something similar, letting a conference champion that picks up a few more quality wins leapfrog a 10-2 Notre Dame that met an early ACC exit.

I still think it’s highly likely we end up with the 1-seed in this scenario - I just don’t think it’s a lock.
Don’t see how Hopkins could pass us with the bad loss to Navy in their record but you’re not wrong… anything is possible in the hands of the “committee”…
 

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Well with Hopkins just getting thoroughly outplayed by Michigan, ND is an absolute lock to be #1.
 

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14-5 irish over UVA early 4th and it may be the best game of year for this squad as the defense has been great the whole game
 

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14-5 irish over UVA early 4th and it may be the best game of year for this squad as the defense has been great the whole game
Absolutely insane game.....Up 10 in the 4th and still have 1st line in...Just trying to prove they are that much better I guess.
 
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