Notre Dame In The Transfer Portal 2023-2024 (Verified ND Interest Only)

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To be fair to Leonard, we also did quite the number on the presumptive #1 overall pick in the NFL draft. I thought Leonard looked pretty good in '22 and pre-ND this season as well. And in the ND game, while he didn't impress as a passer, he sure as hell earned a lot of respect from me for continuing to line up and run the ball play after play when it seemed like every play he was getting smacked. That was one of the most physical beatings I've seen a QB take in a long time.
Yeah, and it's also important to point out that Duke had no talent on offense.

Their OL was pretty awful and their receivers are really unimpressive.
 

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Yeah, and it's also important to point out that Duke had no talent on offense.

Their OL was pretty awful and their receivers are really unimpressive.
So were ND’s. Didn’t everyone say Hartman would getting an upgrade at WR too. That surely wasn’t the case though in the end.
 

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Hartman had his highest YPA and QB Rating of any year this year. While coming to ND didn’t elevate his draft stock, let’s not pretend it was a total disaster.
Same rating at Wake last year and he was much better
 

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I don't like the coaches going with a 1+ yrs remaining QB - I would rather it be 1 + done GT QB who won't be threatening to Angeli and Minchey, although I'm sure one of them is likely to transfer, Angeli being more likely, but if he does pretty good in '24, does Minchey go elsewhere? I guess if Carr is what he is supposed to be, that wouldn't hurt as much. Just think one 1 + done is a better way to go.
 

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To be fair to Leonard, we also did quite the number on the presumptive #1 overall pick in the NFL draft. I thought Leonard looked pretty good in '22 and pre-ND this season as well. And in the ND game, while he didn't impress as a passer, he sure as hell earned a lot of respect from me for continuing to line up and run the ball play after play when it seemed like every play he was getting smacked. That was one of the most physical beatings I've seen a QB take in a long time.
Great point on Williams. Our defense was really good this year. Our DL dominated Duke that night- Leonard barely had a chance
 

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Gino did a good job with Ridder, if he really will be calling plays I like the potential here with Leonard
 

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From what I keep reading, ND is playing a dangerous game. Had Howard wrapped up long before. Family and Will were all set on ND. ND Called and told them tonight they are going with someone else.
So ND is puropsely sabotaging another season before it begins...ok
 

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So were ND’s. Didn’t everyone say Hartman would getting an upgrade at WR too. That surely wasn’t the case though in the end.
I don't think people were expecting all the injuries they suffered and expected Merriweather to take the next step, instead of slumping like he did.

But overall, ND should be significantly better at receiver just by freshmen being more experienced and being healthier. For ND to be this unlucky with injuries at receiver for the third year in a row would likely conclude once and for all that ND was built on an ancient indian burial ground.
 

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I don't think people were expecting all the injuries they suffered and expected Merriweather to take the next step, instead of slumping like he did.

But overall, ND should be significantly better at receiver just by freshmen being more experienced and being healthier. For ND to be this unlucky with injuries at receiver for the third year in a row would likely conclude once and for all that ND was built on an ancient indian burial ground.
And I think they will get one more in the Portal.
 

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I don't think people were expecting all the injuries they suffered and expected Merriweather to take the next step, instead of slumping like he did.

But overall, ND should be significantly better at receiver just by freshmen being more experienced and being healthier. For ND to be this unlucky with injuries at receiver for the third year in a row would likely conclude once and for all that ND was built on an ancient indian burial ground.
We took like 8 shots to Tobias all season downfield and hit on half of them… HE didn’t have a good year, but Parker really F’d him too
 

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I don't like the coaches going with a 1+ yrs remaining QB - I would rather it be 1 + done GT QB who won't be threatening to Angeli and Minchey, although I'm sure one of them is likely to transfer, Angeli being more likely, but if he does pretty good in '24, does Minchey go elsewhere? I guess if Carr is what he is supposed to be, that wouldn't hurt as much. Just think one 1 + done is a better way to go.

I think Steve is gone with any transfer QB. He knows if he doesn’t start now he never will.
 

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Listening to the II podcast right now and O'Malley said that according to one of his contacts who is a Stanford insider, Stanford will now be allowed to take undergrad transfers.

It's complete BS that ND football isn't allowed to do this unless they're 1 year out of HS or coming from an elite institution like NW (Brandon Joseph). ND Basketball just took a kid from NW who was 2 years out of HS. If Stanford can take undergrad transfers then ND should be able to take pretty much anyone who is in good academic standing.
I’m not sure you understand what “good academic standing” for athletes means at many schools
 

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I don't like the coaches going with a 1+ yrs remaining QB - I would rather it be 1 + done GT QB who won't be threatening to Angeli and Minchey, although I'm sure one of them is likely to transfer, Angeli being more likely, but if he does pretty good in '24, does Minchey go elsewhere? I guess if Carr is what he is supposed to be, that wouldn't hurt as much. Just think one 1 + done is a better way to go.
If Leonard lives up to his hype he’ll only be at ND one season anyways.
 

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We took like 8 shots to Tobias all season downfield and hit on half of them… HE didn’t have a good year, but Parker really F’d him too
Eh, I don't think you can blame Parker for that.

His targets were low, because he missed several easy catches. If you drop the ball and make mental errors, you're not going to get as many targets. I also don't think Hartman trusted him, so even if he was open downfield, Hartman was probably hesitant to hit him.
 

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Brice hinted on the II pod that Leonard will be getting significant $$ offers from Oregon and Washington and might expect him to go there.
Seems like he’d be crazy not to pick Oregon considering how things have gone for Bo Nix there. Pretty similar QB’s in my opinion.
 

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Probably, but god I hope not. We thought we were pissed at Hartman underwhelming as a passer? Just wait until you see Leonard attempt to throw it.

Am I the only one who thinks Leonard could look like shit in a Parker led offense?

Leonard has better physical tools than Hartman but he's a worse QB right now. That seems like a recipe for disaster if Parker is still our OC.

Hate to join the naysayers, but I agree with these three statements. If Leonard is the QB, the offense must be very different conceptually than what it was this year or what it would be with Howard as the transfer. QB runs and read-options need to become a feature of the offense, because that is what Leonard does best. He is not a polished passer and would not even do as well as Hartman in the offense we saw this year. This makes things a bit awkward because that style does not fit the other QBs on the roster, impacting their development, and Leonard has a real tendency toward injury.

Another cause for concern: He is not a finished product and needs development as a passer. Can this staff do that?
 

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Leonard > Howard.

Though I’m not sure either would accomplish what we ultimately want. I think a lot of QB’s could win 10 games with next years schedule. The goal should be finding the guy that can win all 12. That becomes insanely difficult when passes are not consistently completed or pressure out on the defense. What do teams that win 11 or 12 games have in common?

UGA (Carson Beck): 71% and 9.4
UM (Captain Dipshit): 74 and 9.7
UW (Michael Penix): 65.6 and 9.1
FSU (Jordan Travis): 63.9 and 8.5
Oregon (Bo Nix): 78.6 and 9.7
OSU (Kyle McCord): 65.8 and 9.1
Texas (Quinn Ewers): 69.8 and 8.9
Bama (Jalen Milroe): 66.4 and 10.6

They have QB’s that complete passes at high clip or create big plays in the passing game. Some do one, some do both. None do neither. Which is where Leonard falls.

Is it impossible? No, it’s not. But it would be the exception, not the rule. And with this offensive coaching staff, not sure I’m betting on the exception.
 

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If Leonard lives up to his hype he’ll only be at ND one season anyways.
Yeah, I was thinking that as I wrote that but maybe it's more about the potential for another year, but yes in practical terms, he either kills it and is gone of shits the bed and other QBs and maybe even Carr take over and he's off wherever he's going next...
 

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Leonard > Howard.

Though I’m not sure either would accomplish what we ultimately want. I think a lot of QB’s could win 10 games with next years schedule. The goal should be finding the guy that can win all 12. That becomes insanely difficult when passes are not consistently completed or pressure out on the defense. What do teams that win 11 or 12 games have in common?

UGA (Carson Beck): 71% and 9.4
UM (Captain Dipshit): 74 and 9.7
UW (Michael Penix): 65.6 and 9.1
FSU (Jordan Travis): 63.9 and 8.5
Oregon (Bo Nix): 78.6 and 9.7
OSU (Kyle McCord): 65.8 and 9.1
Texas (Quinn Ewers): 69.8 and 8.9
Bama (Jalen Milroe): 66.4 and 10.6

They have QB’s that complete passes at high clip or create big plays in the passing game. Some do one, some do both. None do neither. Which is where Leonard falls.

Is it impossible? No, it’s not. But it would be the exception, not the rule. And with this offensive coaching staff, not sure I’m betting on the exception.
Key difference is that these guys all have SIGNIFICANTLY more receiving talent.

UGA: Brock Bowers, Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint
UW: Rome Odunze, Ja'lynn Polk
Oregon: Troy Franklin, Tez Johnson
FSU: Keon Coleman, Johnny Wilson
Texas: Xavier Worthy, Adonai Mitchell
Ohio St: Marvin Harrison, Emeka Egbuka
Alabama: Jermaine Burton, Isaiah Bond

A lot is banking on ND's young receiving talent making a step and probably landing another quality transfer receiver. But I'll go out on a limb and say that Leonard would be throwing to better talent at ND than he was at Duke.
 

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Don't have insider info but the search bar references Jahfari Harvey, a DE from Miami(FL). Anybody with a subscription want to elaborate?
 

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Don't have insider info but the search bar references Jahfari Harvey, a DE from Miami(FL). Anybody with a subscription want to elaborate?



Yeah...

Loy is saying he's top of the charts for ND. Very serious probability he's ND at this point.

Loy was right on Leonard too although he was much more "wink wink" about Leonard a couple days ago.


He's "nudge nudge" about this guy.
 
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