NFL combine 2007

R

RichardRiot

Guest
Unofficial time is .................4.57

Gotta laugh, one of those 'guys' was predicting that DW would have the lowest 40 time. I am a DWalk fan, but come-on, he is not a speed back. Nice to here some of the comments about how it is actually the 1st 10-20yds that are important, and the ability to find holes.
 

Win4Gipper

New member
Messages
846
Reaction score
73
I dont know enough but the anouncers sounded like that was where he was to be expected.......like someone else commented earlier...they said his speed in the first 10 yards is what is really being looked at and he did well on that........again know little about this kind of thing but that is what they are reporting
 

Freeman Ara

New member
Messages
881
Reaction score
37
is that about what was expected?

I am not sure if that was what was expected but he shows a good burst in the first twenty and then fades a little in the second 20. Marshawn Lynch ran a 4.49 his second run and and a 4.52, I believe his first. He definetely put up a respectable time, IMO.
 

Freeman Ara

New member
Messages
881
Reaction score
37
Honestly, I think if DW can drop the dance moves that he seemed to show a lot of times before hitting the hole then he has a chance to be a pretty productive back. His vert was great, the best I believe of all the running backs, he can catch out of the backfield, knows how to pass protect, and has good vision. I think he has the talent to be drafted in the first day.
 

johnnd05

Johnny T. works for me
Messages
4,522
Reaction score
275
Honestly, I think if DW can drop the dance moves that he seemed to show a lot of times before hitting the hole then he has a chance to be a pretty productive back. His vert was great, the best I believe of all the running backs, he can catch out of the backfield, knows how to pass protect, and has good vision. I think he has the talent to be drafted in the first day.

Seems reasonable to me. His abilities as a receiver and pass-blocker would make him an excellent third down back, IMO. I'll be interested to see how things shake out for him.
 
R

RichardRiot

Guest
Seems reasonable to me. His abilities as a receiver and pass-blocker would make him an excellent third down back, IMO. I'll be interested to see how things shake out for him.

Oh, and BTW, don't mention anything to the OSU fans, but every single guy commenting on the QB's highlighted Troy Smith's height as an issue. They also said that, of the height-challenged QB's, Chris Leak is actually better at finding receivers down the middle and has a better football mind. Troy was noted as having a good arm (true), but some were questionning whether he would even go day 1.

As I say, don't saying anything to a Buck fan, or there will be a major MELTDOWN!!!
 

IRISHDODGER

Blue Chip Recruit
Messages
8,039
Reaction score
6,103
And how could you forget Ryan Khalil....he got a fair bit of face time as well. Figured they would be breaking-down how well he untied his shoes after the combine. He actually did work out fairly well, but thought that the accolades were kind of over the top.....Agree on Thomas, that guy is a guaranteed top 3 (he won't go first though, 'cause it seems pretty clear that Oakland is picking a QB)

You're right, they were creaming over Khalil. He should be ready for the pros though, didn't start at USC for 6 years!?
 
R

RichardRiot

Guest
Oh, and BTW, don't mention anything to the OSU fans, but every single guy commenting on the QB's highlighted Troy Smith's height as an issue. They also said that, of the height-challenged QB's, Chris Leak is actually better at finding receivers down the middle and has a better football mind. Troy was noted as having a good arm (true), but some were questionning whether he would even go day 1.

As I say, don't saying anything to a Buck fan, or there will be a major MELTDOWN!!!

The QB that was given the biggest verbal 'boost' today was Stanton. How funny is that??? Here's Quinn supposedly dropping on the boards, 6 weeks after the Sugar Bowl, yet Stanton is being talked-up??? Last time he was seen on National TV he did the following in his last 3 possessions:

Fumble (on around 25YD Line)
INT for TD
INT to seal game

Alot of these draft idiots probably still think that Todd Marinovich is climbing up the charts......
 

nshope

New member
Messages
246
Reaction score
4
Gosh, I'm really going to miss Brady Quinn at ND. I'll follow him for sure in the NFL, but man-o-man...that story about getting called out and puttin' up 24 reps of 225 lbs....outstanding. Love that guy!!!
 

Win4Gipper

New member
Messages
846
Reaction score
73
Gosh, I'm really going to miss Brady Quinn at ND. I'll follow him for sure in the NFL, but man-o-man...that story about getting called out and puttin' up 24 reps of 225 lbs....outstanding. Love that guy!!!

It may have already been posted but how does this compare to all of the other QBs.
 

Win4Gipper

New member
Messages
846
Reaction score
73
What are the chances of Russel's stock dropping in the weeks coming up to the draft......i know he looked flabby at his weigh in and I am still not sold on him as an NFL QB......this may be extreem but this situation is reminding me of the Ryan Leaf.
 

johnnd05

Johnny T. works for me
Messages
4,522
Reaction score
275
...this may be extreme but this situation is reminding me of Ryan Leaf.

I've had similar thoughts. I wouldn't mind going back over the history: e.g., was Leaf inconsistent throughout his career, but with a big bowl performance at the end to boost his stock higher than it would ever be? -- I genuinely have no idea, but I'd love to know.
 
H

HereComeTheIrish

Guest
I've had similar thoughts. I wouldn't mind going back over the history: e.g., was Leaf inconsistent throughout his career, but with a big bowl performance at the end to boost his stock higher than it would ever be? -- I genuinely have no idea, but I'd love to know.

Great mind do think alike. Was wondering the same thing.
 

IRISHDODGER

Blue Chip Recruit
Messages
8,039
Reaction score
6,103
If memory serves, Leaf performed ok in the Rose Bowl vs. Michigan in his final game but they did lose to Charles Woodson & co. I don't think he did anything drastic...good or bad. The one thing he has in common w/ Russell, is his low number of starts which both pale in comparison to Quinn.

You know Peyton Manning was not known for winning any BIG games at UT (specifically vs. Florida), but did anyone doubt he'd be at least a solid pro QB? Football is the ultimate team sport, but this fact seems forgotten when the NFL experts rake Quinn over the coals. I heard all season how much greater Calvin Johnson would look had he had a decent QB throwing to him. But Quinn is expected to overcome the rest of his team's deficiencies and win every game himself. The double standards are ridiculous but, as ND fans, I know we're used to it. Hopefully, Quinn will shut them all up.

The way Quinn's luck has been going, I wouldn't bet against Russell being a bust. I don't think he has the "anger issues" that Leaf had. What pisses me off is I had to read the Quinn story on this thread via HereComeTheIrish's post. All I can find on NFL network is video showing him throwing up a few reps, but nothing about being called out & then stunning the room w/ his physical prowess. You know damn well, had he made a bad showing or hurt himself, it would be splattered all over the sports pages/ESPN.

I did read where some Brady hating fans were saying that he short-armed the reps & should be piss tested, etc.
 
Last edited:
H

HereComeTheIrish

Guest
AWESOME!!! I read that Quinn is not participating in the combine b/c of his knee injury. His orthopod (Dr. James Andrews, no less) recommened that he wait until the 2 Pro Days in South Bend in early & late March.

I wasn't aware that he actually injured his knee on that 60 yd jaunt in the USC game. The kid had the knee drained at halftime, put a sleeve on it & went back out to finish up. He then tweaked it again in the 1st half of the Sugar Bowl. As usual, Brady manned up & stressed that the injury was no excuse for the loss. BTW, JaMarcus Russell (aka, the greatest QB prospect EVER!) is not participating either.

For what it's worth, one NFL draft prognosticator said that looking over the recent 1st round QBs, that one common thread to success is the number of college starts. Brady had just under 50 in his 4 years, Russell only had 29. Hopefully Quinn will repeat what other experienced college QBs did in the pros. Guys like Phillip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer & Donovan McNabb. Russell had roughly the same amount of starts as Joey Harrington, Akili Smith & Jim Drunkenmiller. This stat isn't scientific or anything, but nice too finally see some positive spin in Brady's defense.

Also, for you Browns fans, Romeo Crennel was quoted as saying that Weis told him to trade up & draft Brady Quinn w/ their 1st pick.

Yeah...I've heard that from the Cleveland PD that Charlie called him personally and said he thought that BQ would be the third best QB in the league within 3 years. Charlie was really been campaigning for Brady to Cleveland and I'm hoping that they take him. We'll see.
 
H

HereComeTheIrish

Guest
If memory serves, Leaf performed ok in the Rose Bowl vs. Michigan in his final game but they did lose to Charles Woodson & co. I don't think he did anything drastic...good or bad. The one thing he has in common w/ Russell, is his low number of starts which both pale in comparison to Quinn.

You know Peyton Manning was not known for winning any BIG games at UT (specifically vs. Florida), but did anyone doubt he'd be at least a solid pro QB? Football is the ultimate team sport, but this fact seems forgotten when the NFL experts rake Quinn over the coals. I heard all season how much greater Calvin Johnson would look had he had a decent QB throwing to him. But Quinn is expected to overcome the rest of his team's deficiencies and win every game himself. The double standards are ridiculous but, as ND fans, I know we're used to it. Hopefully, Quinn will shut them all up.

The way Quinn's luck has been going, I wouldn't bet against Russell being a bust. I don't think he has the "anger issues" that Leaf had. What pisses me off is I had to read the Quinn story on this thread via HereComeTheIrish's post. All I can find on NFL network is video showing him throwing up a few reps, but nothing about being called out & then stunning the room w/ his physical prowess. You know damn well, had he made a bad showing or hurt himself, it would be splattered all over the sports pages/ESPN.

I did read where some Brady hating fans were saying that he short-armed the reps & should be piss tested, etc.

That's a bunch of bullcrap...I watched the damn lift. It was a legit 24. People just like watching good folk like ourselves get whipped into a fuss. :)
 

leprechaun4life

New member
Messages
498
Reaction score
21
It's hard to believe that Quinn is taking so much heat from the scouts and the draft "experts." I (although slightly biased) can't think of any good reason he isn't better than JaMarcus Russell. Nobody really knows whether Russell can read a defense, people had questions about Vince Young, but Russell doesn't have near teh athletic ability that Young has. Who cares if he can throw it 60 yds on his knees; if he's on his knees he will probably be sacked and you can't throw it down field every play, even if you have Randy Moss. And, Quinn doesn't exactly throw lame ducks around, he can probably throw it a good 50 yds, if given enough time (again, this is the Raiders though)

The only possible explanation for the Raiders picking Russell over Quinn is Quinn's character. Which of course means that Quinn has too high of a character to fit in on the Raiders team, and with their new HC.

Judging by the physical and the weigh-in alone, it shows that Quinn cares more about his pro career and is more competitive than Russell. Russell gained, supposedly, ten pounds in a little over a month; and, in the same amount of time, Quinn went from 6.8% body fat to 4% body fat, and obviously has incredible arm strength to beat out many of the offensive linemen in the bench press. How can a team pass up on someone with that much of a work ethic for someone who was lazy preparing for one of the most important events of his life.

The one good thing is Quinn's opportunity to play for a better, more stable team. I guess I would rather him go top ten and have a great career than him go #1 and have a decent career. That way, we could hear about how stupid the GMs are.

Go Texans! Draft Quinn! Then, lower ticket prices so some of us Texas natives can enjoy a game!
 

IRISHDODGER

Blue Chip Recruit
Messages
8,039
Reaction score
6,103
[/COLOR]
Yeah...I've heard that from the Cleveland PD that Charlie called him personally and said he thought that BQ would be the third best QB in the league within 3 years. Charlie was really been campaigning for Brady to Cleveland and I'm hoping that they take him. We'll see.

Dude, what a recruiting tool that would be if the Browns took Quinn. Especially after Zook was quoted as downplaying Weis' NFL connection as an advantage. I'm mean Weis already has pages of success stories to plug in front of HS recruits & their parents. I mean does Dan Stevenson & Corey Mays get an opportunity to make the Pats w/o Weis' referral? Granted they had to perform to earn a spot, but that's all a kid can ask for.
 

Steve

Majestic Unicorn
Messages
2,125
Reaction score
118
according to this guy on sportscenter, darius walker has hurt his draft stock the most b/c he ran in the 4.6's in the 40 and he had fumbling problems at notre dame........but no one can remember it
 
Last edited:

tgolden

New member
Messages
1,063
Reaction score
34
umm, that's news to me. I didn't know Darius had a fumbling problem at ND. correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he had 2 fumbles last year, and I don't remember the other years. I think I would remember if he had a fumbling problem. and given the amount of times he touched the ball...
 
H

HereComeTheIrish

Guest
umm, that's news to me. I didn't know Darius had a fumbling problem at ND. correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he had 2 fumbles last year, and I don't remember the other years. I think I would remember if he had a fumbling problem. and given the amount of times he touched the ball...

I know it's probably been more, but I only remember 1fumble...against army in the endzone and it still went for a touchdown. He was probably our most sure handed player on offense.
 
H

HereComeTheIrish

Guest
Dude, what a recruiting tool that would be if the Browns took Quinn. Especially after Zook was quoted as downplaying Weis' NFL connection as an advantage. I'm mean Weis already has pages of success stories to plug in front of HS recruits & their parents. I mean does Dan Stevenson & Corey Mays get an opportunity to make the Pats w/o Weis' referral? Granted they had to perform to earn a spot, but that's all a kid can ask for.

Agreed...A recruit would be silly not to consider it...It's a natural pipeline to playing on Sundays. You put out for me for 4 years and on Saturdays in the fall, I'll get you your shot at the pros. What's your favorite team? Yeah, I know such and such from...whoever...Enough said.
 

johnnd05

Johnny T. works for me
Messages
4,522
Reaction score
275
According to ESPN.com (link), Walker never fumbled in his entire Irish career ... could that be right?
 
Top