ND Stadium Atmosphere

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OMG you guys are still crying about this. Buy a ticket, go to the game, and stand and cheer and encourage everyone around you to do the same. They will have a better experience, as will you. And in the end we all will, because we dont have to hear the moaning and groaning about how bad it is at the stadium.
 

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I have been following this discussion with great interest, because it reminds me so much of the experiences I have had the past few years as a smoker. Used to be, I could smoke just about anywhere I wanted (in my office, in Notre Dame Stadium, in the classroom (yes, really), and even in my hospital bed). Then, the anti-smoking crowd came along, and started limiting the places where I could enjoy my Benson & Hedges. Now, I am deprived of the sheer enjoyment of pushing myself back from the table after a tremendous meal in any restaurant and lighting up that great after-dinner smoke. Because my second-hand smoke is infringing upon the rights of others to enjoy a smoke-free atmosphere.

Once upon a time, I adhered to the philosophy that the question of where and if I could smoke should be a decision made by the property owner, such as the owner of the restaurant. After all, if the smoke was hurting his business, he could ban smoking and I didn't have to go there if that after-dinner smoke was essential to my enjoyment of my dining experience. On the other hand, if smokers were a greater proportion of his business, he could allow smoking and suffer any economic loss if non-smokers refused to patronize his business. I have since been "re-educated," however, and am now convinced that the government has the absolute right to determine what is good for me and what is not, and that banning smoking, in restaurants or elsewhere, is certainly a legitimate exercise of government action for the "common good." After all, if I really want to smoke after dinner, I can just stay home and eat and then smoke my brains out afterwards without infringing on anyone else's rights.

Don't you think the same applies to football games? After all, I paid a good amount of money for my tickets. I did so so that I could sit comfortably and watch every play of the game in relative peace and quiet. I really don't want to have these rights infringed upon by people standing up in front of me so I can't see, making so much noise I can't hear the announcer or hear myself think, and especially being forced to put up with a bunch of drunken rowdies ruining my experience of the game. If people want to drink and yell and act crazy, they should stay home and watch it on TV so they won't be infringing upon other peoples' rights to enjoy the game from a comfortable seat in a sane and dignified manner.
 

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Also, can we talk about how forecast calls for lows in the "low 40's to upper 30's"?
 
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I have been following this discussion with great interest, because it reminds me so much of the experiences I have had the past few years as a smoker. Used to be, I could smoke just about anywhere I wanted (in my office, in Notre Dame Stadium, in the classroom (yes, really), and even in my hospital bed). Then, the anti-smoking crowd came along, and started limiting the places where I could enjoy my Benson & Hedges. Now, I am deprived of the sheer enjoyment of pushing myself back from the table after a tremendous meal in any restaurant and lighting up that great after-dinner smoke. Because my second-hand smoke is infringing upon the rights of others to enjoy a smoke-free atmosphere.

Once upon a time, I adhered to the philosophy that the question of where and if I could smoke should be a decision made by the property owner, such as the owner of the restaurant. After all, if the smoke was hurting his business, he could ban smoking and I didn't have to go there if that after-dinner smoke was essential to my enjoyment of my dining experience. On the other hand, if smokers were a greater proportion of his business, he could allow smoking and suffer any economic loss if non-smokers refused to patronize his business. I have since been "re-educated," however, and am now convinced that the government has the absolute right to determine what is good for me and what is not, and that banning smoking, in restaurants or elsewhere, is certainly a legitimate exercise of government action for the "common good." After all, if I really want to smoke after dinner, I can just stay home and eat and then smoke my brains out afterwards without infringing on anyone else's rights.

Don't you think the same applies to football games? After all, I paid a good amount of money for my tickets. I did so so that I could sit comfortably and watch every play of the game in relative peace and quiet. I really don't want to have these rights infringed upon by people standing up in front of me so I can't see, making so much noise I can't hear the announcer or hear myself think, and especially being forced to put up with a bunch of drunken rowdies ruining my experience of the game. If people want to drink and yell and act crazy, they should stay home and watch it on TV so they won't be infringing upon other peoples' rights to enjoy the game from a comfortable seat in a sane and dignified manner.



It's a football game not a graduation ceremony. Since when is sitting and enjoying quietly the norm? This isn't baseball, football's a fast pace, emotional game. It's a game not a Broadway performance! I'd say people have just as much of a right to stand and cheer their team on as they do to sit. If you choose to sit, fine, but don't complain when everyone else is getting into the game and cheering at the top of their lungs. It's not about being drunk it's about being part of the game and providing the home team support and a tactical advantage (i.e., false starts).

You want quiet, sane, and dignified? Go to an art show or stay home instead of an outdoors football game.

The seats are uncomfortable for a reason. Get out of them.
 
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Well, yes, but that's your opinion.
What do I do when some crazy, screaming fan is jumping up and down and causes me to spill my hot chicken soup (a tradition at ND games for me) all over myself? Have I no rights?
 
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koonja

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Well, yes, but that's your opinion.
What do I do when some crazy, screaming fan is jumping up and down and causes me to spill my hot chicken soup (a tradition at ND games for me) all over myself? Have I no rights?

I honestly don't know if you're joking or not. If the soup spills don't bring it.
 

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Just saw on 247 that the Ralley Towls are Blue. That's stupid. Ithe whole student section and many others including myself will be wearing green
 
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koonja

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Just saw on 247 that the Ralley Towls are Blue. That's stupid. Ithe whole student section and many others including myself will be wearing green

Let's just spread the word that it's a green out. I'll be sporting my Montana jersey (got it used for $40) and a green towel of some kind.

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HereComeTheIrish

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Well, yes, but that's your opinion.
What do I do when some crazy, screaming fan is jumping up and down and causes me to spill my hot chicken soup (a tradition a ND games for me) all over myself? Have I no rights?

Notre Dame probably should put a label on your hot chicken soup stating the fact that it is indeed Hot Chicken soup and it could potentially burn you as it is Hot Chicken Soup.... It worked for McDonalds....(which is where I have a feeling you're going with this) and might be a good idea for those within a 50 foot proximity of said Hot Chicken soup to know of your desire to enjoy your Hot Chicken Soup in Notre Dame Stadium as it's your ND game day tradition. I'm sure the other 80,000 folks in attendance would hate to tread against you or your Hot Chicken soup as this is after all, all about a man and his Hot Chicken Soup and everyone needs to sit down any time HotChicken Soup enters said arena area.

You all should be ashamed of trying to create an atmosphere where Hot Chicken Soup could potentially be spilled. This whole situation is beyond concerning.
 

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Any young whippersnapper who obstructs my view of the game with any stupid towel, green or blue, is going to be looking at a blue card.
 
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koonja

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Any young whippersnapper who obstructs my view of the game with any stupid towel, green or blue, is going to be looking at a blue card.

I'm not going to be cussing or acting like a clown, but I will be cheering as loud as I can and having a great time. If anyone tries to tell me to take it down, I'll have my salt.

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HereComeTheIrish

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I'm not going to be cussing or acting like a clown, but I will be cheering as loud as I can and having a great time. If anyone tries to tell me to take it down, I'll have my salt.

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According to another thread the towels will be green not blue. I really hope they're green. Blue towels would sort of be the final nail in the coffin on any potential of green shirts being handed out at the gate
 
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Well, yes, but that's your opinion.
What do I do when some crazy, screaming fan is jumping up and down and causes me to spill my hot chicken soup (a tradition at ND games for me) all over myself? Have I no rights?

You'd deserve it for doing something as stupid as brinking hot soup to a football game, old man.
 

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Just saw on 247 that the Ralley Towls are Blue. That's stupid. Ithe whole student section and many others including myself will be wearing green

You are aware that the The Shirt is blue (think AF) this year, right? The student section will be a sea of blue.
 

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ooooooooo- nice motivation. I thought the shirt was cool, but not really ND. Glad they're doing this.

And on a side note, I think all this old vs young stadium noise stuff is a little overblown. As others have pointed out, when the situation actually merits noise- Notre Dame Stadium gets rocking. It's only when games are out of reach one way or the other that people get quiet.
 
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You'd deserve it for doing something as stupid as brinking hot soup to a football game, old man.

See, I used to think the same thing about people who would come into a bar/restaurant where I was eating some hot-wings, swilling down a few Budweisers, and listening to my favorite blues band, and would start complaining because of the smoke. However, with the help of those more enlightened than me, I have been "re-educated" as I previously said, to understand that my desire to party it up and have a good time ends when it adversely affects others' enjoyment. On a side note, it is interesting to me that if I happen to make an even faintly disparaging remark about someone because of his or her race, gender, or sexual orientation, or physical or mental disability, I will immediately be ostracized from polite society and probably be forced to attend sensitivity training classes until my thinking is right. Insults to "old people," or overweight people or, sad to say, Christians (but not to Muslims), however, seem to be entirely acceptable to the mainstream of our society.
 

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See, I used to think the same thing about people who would come into a bar/restaurant where I was eating some hot-wings, swilling down a few Budweisers, and listening to my favorite blues band, and would start complaining because of the smoke. However, with the help of those more enlightened than me, I have been "re-educated" as I previously said, to understand that my desire to party it up and have a good time ends when it adversely affects others' enjoyment. On a side note, it is interesting to me that if I happen to make an even faintly disparaging remark about someone because of his or her race, gender, or sexual orientation, or physical or mental disability, I will immediately be ostracized from polite society and probably be forced to attend sensitivity training classes until my thinking is right. Insults to "old people," or overweight people or, sad to say, Christians (but not to Muslims), however, seem to be entirely acceptable to the mainstream of our society.

Nanker, I get what you're trying to argue, but you're making this more about how you can't smoke at a public place rather than the stadium atmosphere...
 
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koonja

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You claim you want to be able to sit and watch the game peacefully? Enjoy your living room. Nothing about sitting down and being peaceful pertains to a football game. If you put everything under a microscope you can always find evidence of of people impeding on what you could call 'rights', but you have to pick your battles. Asking why it's ok for people to stand and cheer at a football game is not one of them.
 

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Beaui

You are one of my favorites on here, but with all due respect, I don't think you get it at all. For one, I am not arguing. I am JOKING--trying to simply add some levity to what seems to be a rather monotonous conversation. Here Come The Irish obviously got it.

Not joking, however, about the constant insults hurled at older alums here, however. We certainly carried our weight "waking up the echos" and "shaking down the thunder," and still do. We don't deserve this bullshit.
 
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Beaui

You are one of my favorites on here, but with all due respect, I don't think you get it at all. For one, I am not arguing. I am JOKING--trying to simply add some levity to what seems to be a rather monotonous conversation. Here Come The Irish obviously got it.

Not joking, however, about the constant insults hurled at older alums here, however. We certainly carried our weight "waking up the echos" and "shaking down the thunder," and still do. We don't deserve this bullshit.

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