Riddickulous
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Notre Dame has too many benefits ($$$) from NOT being in a conference to join one.
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ACamp1900
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a little off point but it's been brought up... this whole multiple undefeated teams thing...
to me instead of pushing a playoff that kills the bowls, destroys the intensity of the reg. season all while doing nothing more than showing who wins a crap shoot playoff rather than show who was the best team throughout the entire year... why don't we just expand the schedule with two or three more games and make every D1 team
a.) play a min. of 14 or so games
b.) any team you play that isn't a D1 (bowl sub division) team does NOT count towards your final record (sorry SEC)
c.) make every conference team play each other at least once (even in the big conferences you have three non conf. games min. so that's not an issue)
to me you do that or something close to it and you will almost NEVER see more than two teams undefeated after the bowl season, which is where the BCS championship game should be anyway... if every team has a loss going into the Bowls then those bowls in a sense become a playoff to earn those two top spots in the polls and EVERYONE is as close to happy as we are gonna get...
as for ND and a conf.??? eh, I couldn't care one way or the other in the long run any more
to me instead of pushing a playoff that kills the bowls, destroys the intensity of the reg. season all while doing nothing more than showing who wins a crap shoot playoff rather than show who was the best team throughout the entire year... why don't we just expand the schedule with two or three more games and make every D1 team
a.) play a min. of 14 or so games
b.) any team you play that isn't a D1 (bowl sub division) team does NOT count towards your final record (sorry SEC)
c.) make every conference team play each other at least once (even in the big conferences you have three non conf. games min. so that's not an issue)
to me you do that or something close to it and you will almost NEVER see more than two teams undefeated after the bowl season, which is where the BCS championship game should be anyway... if every team has a loss going into the Bowls then those bowls in a sense become a playoff to earn those two top spots in the polls and EVERYONE is as close to happy as we are gonna get...
as for ND and a conf.??? eh, I couldn't care one way or the other in the long run any more
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phork
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Not only should non-D1A games not be counted, but they should serve as tie breakers or possibly even minus points. The problem with this idea is that you are figuring that ADs are going to fill schedules easily when these D1AA teams are dropped. Top teams don't want a tough road game, which means (and ND is not exempt), they want something in their favor.
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yeah and with the schedules made five plus years in advance it would be hard... but that's the beauty of it... hell, maybe even have the NCAA make the schedules so we can hear the SEC whine about how unfair it is that they actually have to play someone out of conference each year
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I'm pretty sure that both Indiana and Purdue took in more money than ND did this year. ND's NBC contract is in the 9 million range plus 1 million from the BCS. The 11 teams in the Big Televen split 248 million, each of the 11 teams took in 22.6 million......
Expanding to 12 teams could hurt Big Ten in BCS, pocketbook - Stewart Mandel - SI.com
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licensing and total revenue put Notre Dame around 90+ million, Indiana and purdue combined wouldnt come close to that figure. You lose that when absorbed into a conference-Notre Dame doesnt need them. If you look up the word absorbed in the dictionary it implies to lose original substance and characteristics. When water is absorbed into a rag (little 11) its still water but you cant see it. Notre Dame would loose for the sake of $$$$ they dont need.
phork
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You don't necessarily have to lose your identity if you join a conference, especially if you are ND. Frankly ND landing in any conference would be the crown jewel. Do you think any conference would tell ND to give up the NBC contract. Think Big10 Network + NBC.
There are exceptions to the rule.
There are exceptions to the rule.
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Here's a decent read on the subject......
Ten Myths About Notre Dame and the Big Ten | Bleacher Report
kmoose
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Absolutely!! There is no way that CBS would pay for rights to carry all SEC games EXCEPT ND's. Nor would the Big Ten Network give up every single ND home game. ANY conference that ND would potentially join would either have to convince ND to give up their NBC contract, or lose their own TV deal(s).
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Decent Read and Bleacher Report should never be in the same sentence.
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how much $$$$ do schools pay Purdue and Indiana when they go on the road? I think whatever they do pay, is paid to the big10 and the $$$ is split up among all 11 teams. Didnt UCONN pay ND $600,000 for the game @ UCONN? can indiana or purdont command that type of scratch?
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I mean what I will say with respect because some Notre Dame people think a conference is a good idea, I do not. The reason these schools are in a conference is because they can not stand alone and they do need the bcs, bowl conference $$$. When you top out around 90 plus mil in all revenue combined for your football season you dont have to lose your identity in a conference. This identity debate will go on forever and the author of the story and I disagree. It will be no myth that Notre Dame gets watered down and in ten years will be one of the pack in a conference. When Notre Dame wins -and they will win again you will see how it works on Notre Dame's behalf for the better. Why on earth some folks think it would not disturb independent identity is beyond my comprehension. These other schools simply can not do what Notre Dame does- not even a Texas or southern cal could stand alone as Notre Dame does. May it never happen. Notre Dame stands alone. Notre Dame is ---for lack of a word --- Notre Dame.
i think there are several schools that would have no problem at all moving to independent status, and Southern Cal and Texas would definitely be two at the top of the list.