ND Coaching Search Megathread

[chicago51]

Jim Leonard also runs a more traditional pro style 3-4 defense.

The next DC is going to have be on board with running a 3-3-5 like Freeman's scheme or perhaps a 4-2-5 like we ran with Lea / Elko. But the next DC won't be someone that runs a pro style 4-3 / 3-4. It will someone that runs a new schoolish college defense with a Rover / hybrid position.

 

[IrishLax]

Gotta get Mike Tressel IMO. I know that was a defense that Freeman groomed, but they were mighty impressive with how they competed against Bama despite their offense doing nothing all game. He’s a seasoned DC that won’t need to be handheld but will understand the system that Freeman wants to run.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Gotta get Mike Tressel IMO. I know that was a defense that Freeman groomed, but they were mighty impressive with how they competed against Bama despite their offense doing nothing all game. He’s a seasoned DC that won’t need to be handheld but will understand the system that Freeman wants to run.

That would probably be a good get.

 

[chicago51]

Gotta get Mike Tressel IMO. I know that was a defense that Freeman groomed, but they were mighty impressive with how they competed against Bama despite their offense doing nothing all game. He’s a seasoned DC that won’t need to be handheld but will understand the system that Freeman wants to run.

I would feel real guilty raiding Cincinnati yet again but we got to be selfish to win. Do whatever it takes. This is the move.

 

[ulukinatme]

I would feel real guilty raiding Cincinnati yet again but we got to be selfish to win. Do whatever it takes. This is the move.

We gifted them a win in our house, and helped launch them into the playoff. The least they can do is return the favor.
You may say that they did us a favor when we took Kelly, but they've fared better with Fickell so they probably still owe us one in the end.

 

[Irishbounty28]

Gotta get Mike Tressel IMO. I know that was a defense that Freeman groomed, but they were mighty impressive with how they competed against Bama despite their offense doing nothing all game. He’s a seasoned DC that won’t need to be handheld but will understand the system that Freeman wants to run.

This would be about the best hire I could think of from a continuity standpoint. Would make for a pretty seamless transition I would imagine.

 

[ulukinatme]

My opinion doesn't matter of course but Taylor has done well with the RB's. I'd rather we go out and find a new coach for wideouts.

I think the real problem is our WR group has been woefully run for some time. Right now they're bleeding out and we need a steady hand that can heal the damage. Taylor has the experience and we know he can do the job. We can't whiff on another WR coach at this point. The RBs are in a good position, whoever takes them over will be setup well to succeed. Better that Taylor fixes the WR room and we take the chance on the RB coach at this point.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Still trolling huh?

You think I'm bad? You should listen to podcasts like the Lucky Lefty. They emptied the fucking clip on this program, coaches and players. If you can't take criticism directed towards this program, you're following the wrong team.

 

[IrishLax]

You think I'm bad? You should listen to podcasts like the Lucky Lefty. They emptied the fucking clip on this program, coaches and players. If you can't take criticism directed towards this program, you're following the wrong team.

Why would anyone “empty the clip” on amateur players?

 

[Sea Turtle]

Why would anyone “empty the clip” on amateur players?

I don't know. Why don't you ask Shaun Davis why he would dare criticize the players and coaches.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Exactly why would anyone blame the coaches or players. The coaches over the last 8 years have done a good job considering their limitations compared to other schools. If you want to blame anyone for not winning a New Years 6 bowl in 26 years then blame the administration. Until Notre Dame lowers their academic standards it’s going to be a nightmare competing against Teams like Texas, Texas A&M, bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson. These teams are offering bags of money and many other promises to kids along with other perks to come there. There’s a reason why A&M landed 5-6 5 star kids in 2021. Soon you’ll see USC catching up and start doing the same thing.

 

[Classic Irish]

Exactly why would anyone blame the coaches or players. The coaches over the last 8 years have done a good job considering their limitations compared to other schools. If you want to blame anyone for not winning a New Years 6 bowl in 26 years then blame the administration. Until Notre Dame lowers their academic standards it’s going to be a nightmare competing against Teams like Texas, Texas A&M, bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson. These teams are offering bags of money and many other promises to kids along with other perks to come there. There’s a reason why A&M landed 5-6 5 star kids in 2021. Soon you’ll see USC catching up and start doing the same thing.

If you expect ND to lower its academic standards, you're following the wrong team. And as an alum, I hope they never do.


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[Irish#1]

Gotta get Mike Tressel IMO. I know that was a defense that Freeman groomed, but they were mighty impressive with how they competed against Bama despite their offense doing nothing all game. He’s a seasoned DC that won’t need to be handheld but will understand the system that Freeman wants to run.

Unless Cincy decides to pony up, I expect it to be Tressel.

 

[Free Manera]

Despite all of their apparent connections, Tressel and Freeman aren't tight according to 247. The way it's being presented right now, it does not seem like Tressel will be the guy. But there is no indication who will so it's all guesswork still.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

You think I'm bad? You should listen to podcasts like the Lucky Lefty. They emptied the fucking clip on this program, coaches and players. If you can't take criticism directed towards this program, you're following the wrong team.

Sea Turd yes I think you’re bad. I don’t give a shit what Lucky Lefty has to say. Never been to the site never will see the site. What they say doesn’t change what you’re doing on here. You’re trolling in every thread I look at here. This team will finish around top 10 in the nation, earned its way into one of the best bowl games of the entire college football landscape and all you do is come by and rip every single part of the program and players on the team. If you are so disgruntled go find another team to hound. You bring nothing to the site. Zero. Zilch. Nadda.

Am I pissed at the way the bowl game turned out. Damn straight but I’m not coming into every GD thread and vomiting ridiculous takes on anything that is brought up for discussion. Just GTFO.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Despite all of their apparent connections, Tressel and Freeman aren't tight according to 247. The way it's being presented right now, it does not seem like Tressel will be the guy. But there is no indication who will so it's all guesswork still.

This is an honest question, but what connections? From what I can tell, they have never been in the same program at the same time. The only connection I can see is Jim Tressel, but even then, how close are any of you guys to your former boss' nephew?

 

[NDFAN2008]

If you expect ND to lower its academic standards, you're following the wrong team. And as an alum, I hope they never do.


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Not saying I expect them I’m saying if ND fans don’t want to lower academic standards then quite crying that we can’t compete with the big boys. Yeah we might go 10-3 , 11-2 but be happy with that. It’s not an even playing field right now and until something changes get used to it.

 

[NDRock]

If you expect ND to lower its academic standards, you're following the wrong team. And as an alum, I hope they never do.


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I’m all for Notre Dame doing what they think is best regarding academics. It’s weird though when we talk about lowering standards. None of these players would make it in without their athletic abilities, so they are kinda lowering their standards to let them in in the first place. Also, has ND raised their standards since the early Holtz years? What were the reasons for doing so? Has the education experience become more challenging through the years that they needed a higher caliber student/athlete? I’m not an alum so I have no idea on the academic side of things. Just curious.

 

[Free Manera]

This is an honest question, but what connections? From what I can tell, they have never been in the same program at the same time. The only connection I can see is Jim Tressel, but even then, how close are any of you guys to your former boss' nephew?

Maybe apparent wasn't the best word, but what I meant was there are no connections. It just seems like there should be connections because of the Tressel name, coaching for Fickell, coaching at Cincy, etc. But in reality they don't really know each other.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Per Loy, Del is officially gone.

 

[PANDFAN]

Per Loy, Del is officially gone.

HATE for someone to lose a job.....but this had to be done! new life needs brought into that room

 

[NDFAN2008]

Does anyone think Del being gone played a role in Lenzy coming back? My top two candidates are
1. Brian Hartline Ohio State
2. JaMarcus Shephard Purdue

 

[IrishRazor82]

Does anyone think Del being gone played a role in Lenzy coming back? My top two candidates are
1. Brian Hartline Ohio State
2. JaMarcus Shephard Purdue

Other than transfer I don't think Lenzy had much of a choice TBH...

 

[chicago51]

Exactly why would anyone blame the coaches or players. The coaches over the last 8 years have done a good job considering their limitations compared to other schools. If you want to blame anyone for not winning a New Years 6 bowl in 26 years then blame the administration. Until Notre Dame lowers their academic standards it’s going to be a nightmare competing against Teams like Texas, Texas A&M, bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson. These teams are offering bags of money and many other promises to kids along with other perks to come there. There’s a reason why A&M landed 5-6 5 star kids in 2021. Soon you’ll see USC catching up and start doing the same thing.

Most of the top QBs are actually smart guys with good grades. ND was a dynamic QB away in 2018. Just better QB recruiting even with current academic standards I think is enough for ND to win a natty.

Trevor Lawrence, Tua, and Justin Fields were scholar athletes, they had the grades for Notre Dame. Bless Ian Book but if ND had one of those guys on the 2018 team, they could have beat Clemson. Defense did a number on Clemson expect for the 5 minute explosion where Julian Love was out of the game.

Bryce Young went to a Catholic High School, had the grades for Notre Dame.

Those 2018-2020 teams weren’t getting whipped in the trenches like 2012 (Except for that awful 2019 game against Michigan), they needed a dynamic QB.

I acknowledge even if those players didn’t have the grades for ND per say, they may not fit the mold of stereotypical ND athlete . But that’s what Marcus Freeman talked about . There are players that fit Notre Dame, that might not realize they fit Notre Dame.

 

[GoldenAura]

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Laurinaitis now official.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I’m all for Notre Dame doing what they think is best regarding academics. It’s weird though when we talk about lowering standards. None of these players would make it in without their athletic abilities, so they are kinda lowering their standards to let them in in the first place. Also, has ND raised their standards since the early Holtz years? What were the reasons for doing so? Has the education experience become more challenging through the years that they needed a higher caliber student/athlete? I’m not an alum so I have no idea on the academic side of things. Just curious.

When Holtz was hired in 1986, ND accepted 43% of all applicants, 75% graduated in the top 10% of their high school classes, and the average SAT score of an enrollee was 1200.

Now, ND only accepts about 16% of all applicants, 94% graduated in the top 10% of their high school classes, the average SAT is 1480 and the average ACT is 34.

The problem is that ND won't admit anyone that they don't believe can hang with the general admissions pool in a classroom. Athletes obviously get a lot of support that other students don't, and no one expects them to be top of the class, but there's a point at which a student just doesn't have the academic chops to complete any course of study we offer.

 

[Free Manera]

I posted this in the Freeman thread too but reportedly Freeman is doing everything in his power to get more undergrad transfers in.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I posted this in the Freeman thread too but reportedly Freeman is doing everything in his power to get more undergrad transfers in.

I love it. Hope he's successful. That hasn't really been an option for us in the past because: (1) ND is very picky about which courses it'll give credit for at other institutions; and (2) ND insisted that everyone be on track to graduate in 4 years. So when a football player from a less prestigious school sees that ND will only accept 12 of the 30 credit hours he took as a freshman, and they still want him to graduate on time... no dice.

I don't really want to see my alma mater handing out ND credits for underwater basketweaving courses at SDSU, but I see no reason to insist that transfers graduate "on time". The NCAA gives you 5 years to play 4 seasons, so why can't we give transfers an extra year to catch up academically?

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Del Alexander officially out as WR coach……..

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Remember during the Freeman announcement presser where he said he wants to "find kids that fit ND that might not know it"?
I know he directly talking about guys like Sneed, but I think he also takes that to transfers. He's going to try and get a compromise somewhere.