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The same outlets that claim to objectively report the news should absolutely not endorse political candidates if they want to keep that objectivity. They say all this bullshit about there being a firewall between the news room and the editorial staff, but the responses from the news staff at WaPo tells you everything you need to know about that. Good on Bezos for actually trying to revive journalistic integrity. I would love to see a NYPost do the same thing and work to get actual good liberal voices for the paper. That's why I love going to RCP, their front page has good editorials aggregated with both viewpoints represented.
 
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CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, FOX don't issue endorsements, but it's very clear by their coverage who they support.

Washington Post choosing to not endorse a candidate is fine for a start. Until newspapers and broadcast news departments start changing how they "report the news", it's all meaningless.
 
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GATTACA! said:
It is a bit surprising since only one of the candidates has been accused of raping a 13 year old and was close friends with Jeffery Epstein, and it's not Kamala.
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Ahhh yes. The story that everyone basically refused to run.
 
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GATTACA! said:
It is a bit surprising since only one of the candidates has been accused of raping a 13 year old and was close friends with Jeffery Epstein, and it's not Kamala.
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Don't forget his kick interview with known scumbag Adin Ross. The guy has been on record saying age of consent doesn't matter. That surely wasn't targeted at kids
 
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ColoradoIrish said:
So the stories only true if someone airs them? We've been told that's not true the last week.
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I thought you were one of the rational ones. If all the liberal media outlets would love to destroy Trump, and they all turned down the story, what should be the logical conclusion?
 
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I'm not a Biden supporter.

Boy the defensive posture really pops fast when you hit the right nerve.
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😂 Nice pivot. Biden is a scumbag as well. If only we didn't have to elect a creepy 75+ year old with this allegations
 
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ab2cmiller said:
Ahhh yes. The story that everyone basically refused to run.
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Imagine that mattering if the story happened to be about Biden instead. You guys are clowns lol.

How about him walking in on little girls while they changed at the Miss Teen USA pageant and them all being creeped out by him? Or all the disgusting shit he's said about Ikanka? Or Trump being on the flight logs of the Lolita Express 5 times?
 
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GATTACA! said:
Imagine that mattering if the story happened to be about Biden instead. You guys are clowns lol.

How about him walking in on little girls while they changed at the Miss Teen USA pageant and them all being creeped out by him? Or all the disgusting shit he's said about Ikanka? Or Trump being on the flight logs of the Lolita Express 5 times?
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Your twitter feed must be glorious.
 
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ColoradoIrish said:
😂 Nice pivot. Biden is a scumbag as well. If only we didn't have to elect a creepy 75+ year old with this allegations
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I'll take the daughter's diary over the liberal hit piece all day and twice on Sunday. Not playing your "both sides suck" on this one. Calling everyone Nazis will get you Trump - keep up the good work.
 
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ab2cmiller said:
I thought you were one of the rational ones. If all the liberal media outlets would love to destroy Trump, and they all turned down the story, what should be the logical conclusion?
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I'm asking for clarity. We can't believe stories if their published by everyone, we can't believe rumors either. We aren't allowed to infer things based upon evidence. We can't believe first hand stories about things Trump said because unknown sources refuted it. Like what are we allowed to believe?
 
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ColoradoIrish said:
I'm asking for clarity. We can't believe stories if their published by everyone, we can't believe rumors either. We aren't allowed to infer things based upon evidence. We can't believe first hand stories about things Trump said because unknown sources refuted it. Like what are we allowed to believe?
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But what is the evidence?
 
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RDU Irish said:
I'll take the daughter's diary over the liberal hit piece all day and twice on Sunday. Not playing your "both sides suck" on this one. Calling everyone Nazis will get you Trump - keep up the good work.
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You do realize the Nazi/Hitler rhetoric started by people close to Trump? And I thought both sides suck was our common ground here? This is the BS that went on yesterday. Anyone not supporting Trump can acknowledge things we don't like about Biden/Harris, but you can't acknowledge simple things like this.
 
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ab2cmiller said:
But what is the evidence?
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I'm speaking broadly right now. I feel like I'm living in the Dave Chappelle celebrity trial courtroom skit sometimes when discussing anything Trump related. It's nutty. like what would it take for anyone to find fault with the man? Probably nothing

 
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I have never voted for Donald Trump. Not once. I don't think he's a good person. His mafia style politics is concerning. He is a narcissist who lies about a ton of stuff. What he asked Pence to do on Jan. 6th was terrible.

But at least I have some semblance of critical thinking. I can be critical of trump and choose not vote for him but still recognize when the left has lost their mind.

If all media outlets pass on a story, it's likely not true. Could it be true? Sure there is the possibility. But when media outlets that would love to destroy Trump, says it doesn't pass the sniff test, it's likely not true.

I thought the Georgia case and and the classified docs cases against Trump were legit. I thought the NY case was pure and utter bullshit. When all legal analysts tell you that the prosecutor is attempting a new legal theory that's never been done before, alarm bells should be going off in your head.
 
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ab2cmiller said:
I have never voted for Donald Trump. Not once. I don't think he's a good person. His mafia style politics is concerning. He is a narcissist who lies about a ton of stuff. What he asked Pence to do on Jan. 6th was terrible.

But at least I have some semblance of critical thinking. I can be critical of trump and choose not vote for him but still recognize when the left has lost their mind.

If all media outlets pass on a story, it's likely not true. Could it be true? Sure there is the possibility. But when media outlets that would love to destroy Trump, says it doesn't pass the sniff test, it's likely not true.

I thought the Georgia case and and the classified docs cases against Trump were legit. I thought the NY case was pure and utter bullshit. When all legal analysts tell you that the prosecutor is attempting a new legal theory that's never been done before, alarm bells should be going off in your head.
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I agree with you to an extent on the New York case. I believe that there were illegal things that happened, I just don't think it should have been tried and especially not in the way it was. In my mind it it weakens all the other cases because of public perception. The legal theory thing I agree with but historical we've see the legal system used in similar never before used ways. I'm speaking specifically to the introduction of RICO laws.

I appreciate what your saying and acknowledging those situations, you've done more by acknowledging those instances than pretty much everyone else on here. The issue I have specifically with Trump is he has been proven to use the media to buy and bury stories. And for a very long time during his career.

There's other instances of specific things he has done or attempted to do, some during 2016-2020, that doesn't make it's way into the media cycle that has further entrenched my belief that he would be terrible for our country. I'm really not on here to defend the Democrats. I've been very clear that I'm not a fan of all of their policies and what they've done too our country. I just firmly believe Trump is a disgusting/terrible human being that should not be running this country.
 
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ColoradoIrish said:
I'm speaking broadly right now. I feel like I'm living in the Dave Chappelle celebrity trial courtroom skit sometimes when discussing anything Trump related. It's nutty. like what would it take for anyone to find fault with the man? Probably nothing

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You are. The burden of proof for anything Trump related needs to be stronger than any criminal or civil court proceedings, can't include witness statements, can't include former staffers, can't include members of the same party, can't be reported by any media entity, and I'm sure I'm missing others but yeah you get the point. There is no point in even talking about him or his dealings because they will not accept it. Just stick to broad policies because you can point to the facts/figures, even then it's reduced to things like "well, 1 is too many" etc.

Of course, no one supports him or I think, they criticized his candor once? So that makes them unbiased and you're way too biased. Check mate.
 
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ab2cmiller said:
So where are you hearing about him raping a 13 year old? It's not on the media outlets. Facebook?
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Uh the news?


I’m not saying this is the stone cold truth. My point is that RDU reflexively calls anyone he disagrees with a pedophile, while also sucking off Trump as if there isn’t more smoke with him than any person he likes to smear. Joe Biden hugged a girl weird and the entire right is convinced he’s a child molester, yet they twist themselves into pretzels to dismiss the heaps of creepy shit Trump does and says.
 
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ab2cmiller said:
So where are you hearing about him raping a 13 year old? It's not on the media outlets. Facebook?
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I get that the timing of this and other claims helps cast a shadow of a doubt. But at certain point we have to believe that the dude who raped his wife (I know someone's going to say she changed her story and said it never happened, she didn't change her story until 2015 when he was making the decision to run, interesting timing) and accused of raping/assaulting another 20+, on record saying that he can just grab women by the pu$$y, was considered a friend and spoke about Epstein's preference for young girls. At what point do we start to think, well maybe there's some actual merit to all of this

 
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ab2cmiller said:
I have never voted for Donald Trump. Not once. I don't think he's a good person. His mafia style politics is concerning. He is a narcissist who lies about a ton of stuff. What he asked Pence to do on Jan. 6th was terrible.

But at least I have some semblance of critical thinking. I can be critical of trump and choose not vote for him but still recognize when the left has lost their mind.

If all media outlets pass on a story, it's likely not true. Could it be true? Sure there is the possibility. But when media outlets that would love to destroy Trump, says it doesn't pass the sniff test, it's likely not true.

I thought the Georgia case and and the classified docs cases against Trump were legit. I thought the NY case was pure and utter bullshit. When all legal analysts tell you that the prosecutor is attempting a new legal theory that's never been done before, alarm bells should be going off in your head.
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I don't hold any politician out to be anything but a crook, difference is in who gets prosecuted and who doesn't. All elections are lesser of two evils at the top of the ticket and refusing to vote for either is Pollyanna-ish. When it comes to Dems and their agenda - enemy of my enemy is my friend.

2016 - I was a SCOTUS voter - Trump delivered like nobody in my lifetime. That was a FOR vote.

2020 - by delivering above he deserved another shot b/c #1) Biden is and always has been terrible. #2) overspending and pandemic response really tainted my support of SCOTUS delivery, world peace and tax bill

2024 - Avert WW3 and an inkling of hope on the DOGE with crawl over broken glass determination b/c I'm sick of Dem lawfare, celebrating degeneracy and hyperbole

So keep calling names and slinging mud - doesn't matter b/c I am voting on my top policy positions like an adult. There are stark differences if you focus on policy. Not so much if you are an emotion driven simp who thinks one person is pure evil b/c one side yells louder than the other.
 
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I don't hold any politician out to be anything but a crook, difference is in who gets prosecuted and who doesn't. All elections are lesser of two evils at the top of the ticket and refusing to vote for either is Pollyanna-ish. When it comes to Dems and their agenda - enemy of my enemy is my friend.

2016 - I was a SCOTUS voter - Trump delivered like nobody in my lifetime. That was a FOR vote.

2020 - by delivering above he deserved another shot b/c #1) Biden is and always has been terrible. #2) overspending and pandemic response really tainted my support of SCOTUS delivery, world peace and tax bill

2024 - Avert WW3 and an inkling of hope on the DOGE with crawl over broken glass determination b/c I'm sick of Dem lawfare, celebrating degeneracy and hyperbole

So keep calling names and slinging mud - doesn't matter b/c I am voting on my top policy positions like an adult. There are stark differences if you focus on policy. Not so much if you are an emotion driven simp who thinks one person is pure evil b/c one side yells louder than the other.
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Serious question

So you only vote for policy, regardless of who the person is or what they've done?

And also kind of ironic you telling other people to keep calling others names and slinging mud. When two sentences later you call anyone with emotions simps
 
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