Marcus Freeman Revisited

[GrangerIrish24]

No, but it might make him realize that they need to give the ball to Love/Price more. And that Devyn Ford needs to stay as far away from the stadium as possible.

Maybe he did realize that. Funny thing is no one one this board knows yet everyone is screaming and crying like they know everything is that wrong. The team lost. Live learn and move on.

 

[bumpdaddy]

The problem I had with trying the kick is that, although all options had a very low percentage of succeeding, that one was the closest to 0% than any of the others and it's probably more accurate to say it had no chance. Jeter has never kicked a FG that far. MF said after the game that the distance was out of his range but they tried it anyway because the wind was at his back. The problem with that assessment was A.) The wind was swirling and inconsistent more than it was at his back, B.) Even if it had been steadily at his back (which it wasn't) it's still extremely unlikely he could have kicked it that far, and C.) His first FG was blocked and there was an increased likelihood this one would have been too since he would have to line-drive it.

I believe it was Prister who said he thought throwing a Hail Mary to Collins with his 42" vertical and great hands would have been a much better option and I agree with him. It still would have had a low chance of succeeding but a low chance is infinitely better than zero chance.

 

[Huntr]

Literally said, "We have to handle success better."

I may have a stroke right now. And it would be a mercy.

 

[NorthDakota]

No, but it might make him realize that they need to give the ball to Love/Price more. And that Devyn Ford needs to stay as far away from the stadium as possible.

Notre Dame does wayyy too much rotation for me. Your best guys need to be on the field. We got two very good running backs. One of the two should be on the field if the game is competitive.

 

[WildMan1]

Literally said, "We have to handle success better."

I may have a stroke right now. And it would be a mercy.

Lmao bro they really thought the A&M win was Super Bowl worthy.. smh

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Lmao bro they really thought the A&M win was Super Bowl worthy.. smh

So did everyone on this board.

 

[Kingbish01]

The problem I had with trying the kick is that, although all options had a very low percentage of succeeding, that one was the closest to 0% than any of the others and it's probably more accurate to say it had no chance. Jeter has never kicked a FG that far. MF said after the game that the distance was out of his range but they tried it anyway because the wind was at his back. The problem with that assessment was A.) The wind was swirling and inconsistent more than it was at his back, B.) Even if it had been steadily at his back (which it wasn't) it's still extremely unlikely he could have kicked it that far, and C.) His first FG was blocked and there was an increased likelihood this one would have been too since he would have to line-drive it.

I believe it was Prister who said he thought throwing a Hail Mary to Collins with his 42" vertical and great hands would have been a much better option and I agree with him. It still would have had a low chance of succeeding but a low chance is infinitely better than zero chance.

Except RL would have thrown it as hard as he could and it would have came down around the 17 yard line.

 

[NDQuebec]

The problem I had with trying the kick is that, although all options had a very low percentage of succeeding, that one was the closest to 0% than any of the others and it's probably more accurate to say it had no chance. Jeter has never kicked a FG that far. MF said after the game that the distance was out of his range but they tried it anyway because the wind was at his back. The problem with that assessment was A.) The wind was swirling and inconsistent more than it was at his back, B.) Even if it had been steadily at his back (which it wasn't) it's still extremely unlikely he could have kicked it that far, and C.) His first FG was blocked and there was an increased likelihood this one would have been too since he would have to line-drive it.

I believe it was Prister who said he thought throwing a Hail Mary to Collins with his 42" vertical and great hands would have been a much better option and I agree with him. It still would have had a low chance of succeeding but a low chance is infinitely better than zero chance.

Trying for a FG was the right decision because RL can't throw that far.

 

[CANONIZEFATHERSORIN]

So did everyone on this board.

We all knew TAMU was likely a 7-5 team, we just wanted to enjoy a win and forget about it

 

[NDRock]

I did not know he had a 22% completion rate. I am also a fan of ND and should not know that. The coaches should know that before cutting a 7 figure check.

I hope the AD is looking at options because this could go sideways really quick. Notre Dame's line isn't good enough to deal with 8-9 guys in the box all year.

Is that stat real? I almost can’t believe it. I mean, it seems completely plausible from what I’ve seen so far.

 

[Huntr]

So did everyone on this board.

Well, shit. Let me go fuck it up for $8million/ yr as the NDFB HC, then.

Wasting my genius on you window lickers.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Is that stat real? I almost can’t believe it. I mean, it seems completely plausible from what I’ve seen so far.

I could be wrong, but I think it's 22% on attempts 20+ yards down field or something like that. Is that right? Someone correct me. I can't remember the exact details.

 

[Giddyup]

Walsh used the west coast offense. You know, quick passes and never going deep. Y'all would even complain about him.

Lol. Trust me, Favre was throwing deep plenty of times in Holmgrems west coast offense.

 

[NorthDakota]

Lmao bro they really thought the A&M win was Super Bowl worthy.. smh

Notre Dame is the sort of program that should not be getting over the moon about beating a middling SEC program with a new coach.

ND (good or bad) is always going to get the other team's best shot. It's a storied program, the chance to play at ND stadium is something every opposing player is excited about. Their parents come to this one if they can. A would bet a lot of opposing dads and players like ND and would have loved to play at ND. Some might call it the Mecca of CFB, i would say its the Vatican. The campus, the stadium, the tradition, all that...its a big deal to play a game there.

The other teams are gonna be amped. ND needs to be locked in for 12 weeks every year because they are objectively one of the opposing team's biggest games every year, whether ND is good or bad. The culture needs to be fixed. Marcus needs to fix it now.

This playing to opponent's level is awful. Idk what the fix is, it has been going on as long as I've been watching ND.

I think it boils down to offense. ND hasn't had an explosive offense since 2015 with Kizer. When you play offense the way ND does, it doesn't really allow for an off day. Different players/groups won't always play great. ND is conservative to the point it is killing us.

Not to open the yearbook, but I was pretty good at wrestling growing up. When I got on varsity in 8th grade, I adopted a super conservative style of wrestling to deal with older and stronger kids. I didn't ever really get away from it. It resulted in some great wins, but it also resulted in some head scratching losses. One week i'd beat or nearly beat state champions. The next i'd struggle or lose to someone who would not place at state. I was afraid of making mistakes, which itself is a mistake.

This is Notre Dame's problem too. Freeman seems scared of things going wrong. Cut these kids lose. Let them play. Get them ready to play. We can't score 14 points against MAC teams.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Walsh used the west coast offense. You know, quick passes and never going deep. Y'all would even complain about him.

The WCO relies on accuracy over anything else. So, yes, we’d all complain if they tried it.

 

[MrNimbus]

It's the "we've been here before" that pisses me right off. There is no way this can happen right now. I want a coach like Mike Leach, he gave zero f***s. Freeman is a politician, he talks such a good game, you overlook his extreme incompetence in some areas. I'd be telling everyone that their jobs aren't safe, it's open competition all week. Play well, sit, or transfer. These kids are paid now. They're employees. And right now, they suck at their jobs.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

So did everyone on this board.

The national/neutral love was completely over the top. It almost felt uneasy to hear people like MacAfee and Urban Meyer paying massive compliments to Notre Dame.

It was supposed to "they can't win in primetime on the road" and they finally did it. Then we get a Tulsa/Marshall reboot the next week.

 

[dublinirish]

get the vibe from the beat writers tweets today during his presser that he has pretty much lost of all their confidence

 

[EvilleIrish]

get the vibe from the beat writers tweets today during his presser that he has pretty much lost of all their confidence

"Their" as in the beat writers or as in the players?

 

[GrangerIrish24]

get the vibe from the beat writers tweets today during his presser that he has pretty much lost of all their confidence

Irish Illustrateds Instant Analysis doesn’t sound that way.

 

[dublinirish]

"Their" as in the beat writers or as in the players?

the beat writers

 

[bkess8]

I don't want to watch the presser because I don't want to hear the same excuses!

 

[IrishTusker]

The national/neutral love was completely over the top. It almost felt uneasy to hear people like MacAfee and Urban Meyer paying massive compliments to Notre Dame.

It was supposed to "they can't win in primetime on the road" and they finally did it. Then we get a Tulsa/Marshall reboot the next week.

It's Freeman's job to tell them that they aren't so great, forget all that, we could easily lose. Etc. Did he do that? Was the team properly prepared for the game? I honestly don't think so, watching the game.

 

[NorthDakota]

get the vibe from the beat writers tweets today during his presser that he has pretty much lost of all their confidence

Hard to have confidence of invested people when you lose these games

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Prister would throw a hail mary with a Duke transfer QB that can't throw.

Now I get football entirely.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

It's Freeman's job to tell them that they aren't so great, forget all that, we could easily lose. Etc. Did he do that? Was the team properly prepared for the game? I honestly don't think so, watching the game.

Well, yeah, they sucked and they lost. I doubt he was giving them hand jobs all week, but I find it hard to believe he was stroking their egos the entire time instead of being ready.

If the result dictates the prior week's level of preparation and readiness, every team that loses each week sat and jerked around from Monday through Friday. I highly doubt that's the case. If the "handling success" bit is coach speak, fine, but if they seriously took their foot off of the gas because they had a MAC team coming in for a home game they paid for they're in the wrong profession.

Again, I doubt that's it. Really hope it isn't, anyway.

 

[IrishTusker]

This is Swarbrick's fault. He was too loyal to Kelly; after Kelly left, he didn't know what to do. He panicked and hired Freeman. I'm not a believer in the "ND cannot be your first HC job" rule; after all, Kirby Smart, Dabo Swinney, Ryan Day, etc., were first-time coaches at their current jobs. But experience definitely helps, as a general rule. Freeman had very little experience. The bizarre blunders we've seen reflect that.

On a slightly unrelated note, I have no idea if Bevacqua will be better. Both he and Swarbrick are lawyers, and lawyers tend to be very risk-averse and uncreative. Again, we'll see.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

This is Swarbrick's fault. He was too loyal to Kelly; after Kelly left, he didn't know what to do. He panicked and hired Freeman. I'm not a believer in the "ND cannot be your first HC job" rule; after all, Kirby Smart, Dabo Swinney, Ryan Day, etc., were first-time coaches at their current jobs. But experience definitely helps, as a general rule. Freeman had very little experience. The bizarre blunders we've seen reflect that.

On a slightly unrelated note, I have no idea if Bevacqua will be better. Both he and Swarbrick are lawyers, and lawyers tend to be very risk-averse and uncreative. Again, we'll see.

Not on my bingo card.

 

[Terry Jillery]

Freeman doubled down on his support for Leonard in his presser today. Said he never once considered using Steve.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Freeman doubled down on his support for Leonard in his presser today. Said he never once considered using Steve.

We use to hate Kelly for being too honest about his players publicly but now we are upset because he is showing support to his players? I will clue you in on something..... what is said in public and what is said behind closed doors are 2 different things.