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Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly questions a call during the Irish’s loss against Stanford in South Bend on Sept. 25.Published: October 6, 2010 3:00 a.m.
Sideline antics all just part of Kelly’s teaching
Tony Krausz | The Journal Gazette
SOUTH BEND – Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly knows there are plenty of people watching how he interacts with his players on the sideline.

The first-year Irish football coach is not afraid to let his players know when they did something wrong, and he doesn’t mask his frustrations from them or the TV audience.

“It seems a big topic of conversation, my sideline demeanor,” Kelly said.

Kelly’s intensity is what Notre Dame players wanted when the university was looking for a new coach in December.

Players said they wanted a young, energetic leader, and they got their wish in Kelly.

“The way he carries himself and behaves is something that definitely carries over to the team,” safety Harrison Smith said. “He’s got a lot of passion for what he does. He translates that to us in a very good way.”

Smith said part of Kelly’s effectiveness is that he doesn’t focus his wrath on one player; everybody is treated the same after mistakes.

And while the volume is way up, Kelly is always clearly articulating the message he wants a player to hear.

“When he yells, he is making a point or statement,” left guard Chris Stewart said. “He also teaches when he talks like that. Sometimes it is like, ‘Oh, Jesus.’ But he is very productive in what he does.”

Kelly doesn’t just criticize his players. He will also tell them how to execute what he wants to see from them.

“The thing about him is he won’t tell you to do something and not tell you how to do it,” linebacker Manti Te’o said. “There are some coaches who will tell you ‘do this,’ but they won’t tell you how to do it. He will tell you to do it and tell you how to get there.”

As far as Kelly’s messages coming across in a loud, animated manner, Te’o said that is just part of the coach’s style.

“As a player, you can’t have a thin skin,” Te’o said. “You have to take the coaching points and get better. He is not going to yell at you just to pick on you. He is yelling at you because he cares, because he expects you to do better.”

Though Kelly’s words grab fans’ attention when they try to read his lips during televised games, Smith said the manner the coach delivers the message doesn’t bother the players.

“That is stuff that we don’t even think about that. It is nothing to us,” Smith said. “When some people see things like that, they go, ‘Did you see that?’ In the heat of the game, things happen a lot faster than it looks on TV. During the game, everything is going on, there is people every where. It is kind of more blurry during the game.”

Stewart said the best way to deal with being in Kelly’s crosshairs is to respond on the field.

“You pay attention, you listen and you make sure none of it happens again,” Stewart said. “It is better to not say anything and go about your business.”

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I love the fact that Kelly uses alot of emotion. It is what we have been missing for so many years. A coach that will express himself to get his points across to his players. I think he just ups the notch a bit for the team in terms of playing with intensity while at the same time trying to get his players playing intelligently.
 

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I love the fact that Kelly uses alot of emotion. It is what we have been missing for so many years. A coach that will express himself to get his points across to his players. I think he just ups the notch a bit for the team in terms of playing with intensity while at the same time trying to get his players playing intelligently.

I don't know. I don't mind emotion from a coach. But, what we have been missing is execution.

Tony Dungy was too passive when his teams weren't as good. He was a rock of stability when they were winning. The opposite is true for Tom Coughlin. When they win, it's intensity...when they lose, he's a dictator and a mad man.

It's all about execution and results.

I think we're executing better this year so far. I think we'll continue to improve under Kelly. These articles are interesting enough, but are really a way to pass the time between games.
 

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The look that Kelly had on his face as Crist came back to the sidelines after throwing the pick in the 4th quarter of the BC game was pretty classic.
 

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love the intensity

love the intensity

I think it is great! How can people even question Kelly's intensity as a tool for this team to get better? Guys, we have in recent years lost to Navy and Syracuse. I think that the biggest challenge for Kelly right now is taking a class of student athletes, who are used to losing, and making them winners. He is fierce about it. It is awesome!
 

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it reminds me of the great days with LOU at the helm! i love it!!!
 

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I must say I don't like it. I can see him jumping coaches the way he does, or maybe an athlete after a dumb penalty, but to jump on Crist or other athletes for missed plays does not jive with my own style. Seems to me tnose rantings are better left at practice. I like that his team looks disciplined, D looks good, special teams look good, very few penalties, team hustles off the field with no ridiculous celebration etc... But to publicly berate his athletes for a missed assignment doesn't seem to me to be a call for public theatrics. If a coach can't get his team to understand the system in practice, I see no need to publicly berate his team on national TV. Seems like a cheap and desperate theatrical shot made for TV.
 

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Sometimes I wonder if the media can jeopardize the integrity of what Kelly is trying to do. If he has to explain himself too much and the players read about it, I would figure him yelling at a kid might lose some of it's effect.
 

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His aggressiveness towards the players is getting old. As a former College player myself, I know that style does not rub off well on some players.

It is getting to a point where every change of possession, th camera pans to Kelly as he rips te team coming off the field.

It is interesting though, I can read lips pretty good, and you can actually see what he is saying. Helps you realize what mistakes players are making, particularly the QB's.
 

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what the article....

what the article....

doesn't point out is when things do go right. who's the first one to provide praise to his player? bk is.

even though gary gray got beat badly on the td, the next great play gray made (which i forgot what he did), bk was one of the first people to congratulate him.

it goes both ways, and all the media wants to do is focus on the negative. if bk were only dolling out negative comments and not giving equal praise with the same intensity, i'd be upset with it cuz like neutereddoomer, that's not my coaching style either.

imo, bk does a good job of balancing out the negative coaching with positive coaching. he's got a high ceiling that he expects these guys to perform at, and when they're aren't he lets 'em know.
 

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doesn't point out is when things do go right. who's the first one to provide praise to his player? bk is.

even though gary gray got beat badly on the td, the next great play gray made (which i forgot what he did), bk was one of the first people to congratulate him.

it goes both ways, and all the media wants to do is focus on the negative. if bk were only dolling out negative comments and not giving equal praise with the same intensity, i'd be upset with it cuz like neutereddoomer, that's not my coaching style either.

imo, bk does a good job of balancing out the negative coaching with positive coaching. he's got a high ceiling that he expects these guys to perform at, and when they're aren't he lets 'em know.

exactly! at least he gives it to everyone and not just everyone but the star players....and you're right he is the 1st one to smack them on the helmet after something good
 

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It's called tough love. You have to balance it out. He has had alot to scream about, but as noted above, he is also one to give praise too. I see nothing wrong with it. I for one don't want an emotionless coach who only shows emotion when things are going right. He is pushing these players to be better football players and sometimes tough love is needed. Like a child..., you can't be submissive and only offer warm words of encouragement all the time. You have to balance the good and bad. BK has done a good job in trying to fix the problems with this team. It is a work in progress and things are tough right now. He expects these players to perform at a high level that they are capable of.
 

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There is a difference between tough love and public harassment. It is the coach's job in private at practice to train and scream at his athletes.


Kelly is scolding his athletes for crap that should be taken of in private at practice. If the punter shanks the punt, we ALL know that the punter shanked the punt. What the hell good does it do to yell and scream at him in front of a national audience? Kid already feels bad enough.
 
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There is a difference between tough love and public harassment. It is the coach's job in private at practice to train and scream at his athletes.


Kelly is scolding his athletes for crap that should be taken of in private at practice. If the punter shanks the punt, we ALL know that the punter shanked the punt. What the hell good does it do to yell and scream at him in front of a national audience? Kid already feels bad enough.

I really don't see this as a public harassment thing or issue. I bet he screams, rants and raves in practice too. His job is to push these players to play to their potential. I guess I will say that yeah, alot of times our kids are getting a public butt tearing, but that is because we are usually nationally televised and it is what it is. He is trying to get this team to play with emotion and intensity when it counts. How many times over the past years have you seen our team play with a complete lack of it? I for one used to get frustrated, because alot of games in the past, you would see our team hang their heads in defeat and not play with the intensity and will to overcome adversity. I think BK is not just berating these players for no reason, I think he is making these kids learn from their mistakes and he is not afraid to show emotion while doing it at times. He also is one to pat a guy on the shoulder when they do something good as well. You can only do so much in practice, it is in real time game situations that you really learn the most. I think BK is teaching like crazy on the sidelines during these games to get these players to play better. BK is doing what is necessary in my opinion to keep these players focused and yes he is quick to pounce when one of our players make a mistake. He is pushing these kids hard..., and as a result, we are already a better disciplined, more intense football team.
 

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But to publicly berate his athletes for a missed assignment doesn't seem to me to be a call for public theatrics. If a coach can't get his team to understand the system in practice, I see no need to publicly berate his team on national TV. Seems like a cheap and desperate theatrical shot made for TV.

Brian Kelly did the same thing as the HC at Cincy. And the only folks who seem to be talking about it are reporters and fans. The players who have been asked about it seem to understand and except it. And the folks who are making it theatrical for t.v. are the t.v. folks themselves not Brian Kelly.
 

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Brian Kelly did the same thing as the HC at Cincy. And the only folks who seem to be talking about it are reporters and fans. The players who have been asked about it seem to understand and except it. And the folks who are making it theatrical for t.v. are the t.v. folks themselves not Brian Kelly.

I agree with you. The players respect BK and the direction and manner he has this program going. I think some people are making more out of this than it really is. He is going to be a tough coach, but a fair one I believe. He is not yelling for the sake of yelling, and he is most certainly not trying to make this a daytime soap opera. He is the coach of Notre Dame and wants this program back to where it needs to be. He is not going to be the kind of coach that sugar coats anything.
 

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Brian Kelly did the same thing as the HC at Cincy. And the only folks who seem to be talking about it are reporters and fans. The players who have been asked about it seem to understand and except it. And the folks who are making it theatrical for t.v. are the t.v. folks themselves not Brian Kelly.

I know Boss. And that's why we are fans chatting while on break or on wheelchairs. lol. And like Holtz said, he didn't talk against refs, but now that he is not coaching, he can say whatever he wants...

I simplify it like this. If you are a manager training a brand new cashier, you want to make sure the cashier is at least familiar with anything that can come up. You are aware that once left alone, the cashier will make mistakes. I am of the opinion that when that cashier does make a mistake over something you yourself trained them to do, that you will pull the cashier aside and re-teach. You won't jump out at the cashier in front of the customer and publicly berate the employee. That's how I see Kelly's antics in this situation. Teach them. Don't make fools out of them. In any other situation, that manager would either get fired, lose business and trust of his employees, or get his *** kicked or killed.

Now if that new employee messed up, lost patience, and jumped across the counter and punched the customer, then I could see the manager pulling a public action.

Too simple an explanation? lol. It's just banter amongst fans boss. I am really liking Kelly otherwise. Really liking him.
 

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I don't even know why this is now the hot topic regarding ND. I've seen it in about 3 different news reports. Who gives a rip? Let the guy do his job.

In other top news: local strippers are acting too sexy and a career criminal robs a bank.
 
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I don't even know why this is now the hot topic regarding ND. I've seen it in about 3 different news reports. Who gives a rip? Let the guy do his job.

In other top news: local strippers are acting too sexy and a career criminal robs a bank.

LOL! Exactly!
 

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I am in the "what's the big deal" camp as well. Brian Kelly is not a manager at Walmart. He is a college coach and in college football intensity is a huge factor in the outcome. That intensity needs to permiate the team from top to bottom. Charlie completely lacked that intensity and it showed in the play of the team. Another important factor here, and its one that a few people have touched on, is that Kelly may chew the players out when they make a mistake, but he is always very positive in what he has to say about his players. I think Cierre Wood is a prime example. He's made some mistakes and been the target of a chewing out or two, but Kelly has been very supportive of him. He's commented on his great approach and outstanding long term potential. With CW wood would have quietly dropped down the depth chart never to be heard from again. Now that would be demoralizing for a player. Lastly ...Lou Holtz.
 
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I am in the "what's the big deal" camp as well. Brian Kelly is not a manager at Walmart. He is a college coach and in college football intensity is a huge factor in the outcome. That intensity needs to permiate the team from top to bottom. Charlie completely lacked that intensity and it showed in the play of the team. Another important factor here, and its one that a few people have touched on, is that Kelly may chew the players out when they make a mistake, but he is always very positive in what he has to say about his players. I think Cierre Wood is a prime example. He's made some mistakes and been the target of a chewing out or two, but Kelly has been very supportive of him. He's commented on his great approach and outstanding long term potential. With CW wood would have quietly dropped down the depth chart never to be heard from again. Now that would be demoralizing for a player. Lastly ...Lou Holtz.

The last two words..., Lou Holtz....., that is one coach I loved and he did well. He was not bashful to get into his player's rear ends from time to time.., but just about every player respected the heck out of him and played their hearts out on the field. There was no lack of passion.
 

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Yeah, he's the coach. For a reason.
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But the only may who really knows
Is the man who fights the bull."
 

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Lou Holtz jumped on players for making dumb personal fouls. Not for making mistakes in gametime for something that he taught them at practice. WalMart and national TV college management skill is the same thing.

Just a reminder, I am really otherwise liking what Kelly is doing. This is just conversation.

NankerPhelge. Been there done that. Got ripped by the bull and punched back and won.

Still can't find mommy though.
 
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Lou Holtz jumped on players for making dumb personal fouls. Not for making mistakes in gametime for something that he taught them at practice. WalMart and national TV college management skill is the same thing.

Just a reminder, I am really otherwise liking what Kelly is doing. This is just conversation.

NankerPhelge. Been there done that. Got ripped by the bull and punched back and won.

Still can't find mommy though.

oh yea....well, your arse looks awful from my angle.
 

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oh yea....well, your arse looks awful from my angle.

Well my good friend, if my arse ever, I mean ever looks good to you, then I will quit giving you the good beer and introduce you to Coors light. Then introduce you to my sister.
 

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Well my good friend, if my arse ever, I mean ever looks good to you, then I will quit giving you the good beer and introduce you to Coors light. Then introduce you to my sister.

....i resemble that remark.

and i'll never.....never drink coors light.

guinness all the way (pours out a gulp)

that's for my irish homies....word!

.....um, what was i talking about?
 

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Lou Holtz jumped on players for making dumb personal fouls.

do anyone remember that time Lou ran onto the field and grabbed a defensive player by the facemask and walked him over to the sidelines? that was a classic....The player was like 6'5", and little Lou took him down, down to chinatown. I dont remember the players name(i thought he was #98). The player was not a starter, he got into the game for a play or 2, and I think he got into a fight, and Lou ran out, grabbed him by the facemask and walked(dragged) him over to the sidelines.

I think each person needs to be dealt with in a slightly different way, some respond to certain criticisms, some ppl respond to being challenged in front of teammates. As a coach, it part of what you do to figure out who responds to what. I saw in the BC game how BK was getting into quite a few players, but they(broadcast) showed it was a numbers of players, not just one. i see it as BK trying to get these players to respond.
 
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