Joe Rudolph - Offensive Line Coach

NDisme

NDisme

Well-known member
Messages
1,313
Reaction score
493
mrmcgrail said:
It's because he said it was a bad hire when it happened and he can't move off of it. He blamed a lot of last year's play calling problems on Rudolph as well
Click to expand...
Has any other outlet remotely alluded to there being any sort of issue? I haven’t really heard of any players thoughts on him like we did Harry
 
P

PNW Irishman

Active member
Messages
73
Reaction score
164
Jiggafini19Deux said:
They sucked in every possible metric. 7 games with a run blocking grade of average or better. Pass blocking they came in at 84.1, which is poor. They would not have come in ranked higher than 24th overall anywhere as a unit. Darnell Wright was pretty good. Teven Jenkins did ok run blocking. Collectively, it all sucked.

So they were bad, but if we insist on blaming the mom hugger with nail polish whose numbers weren't really any different from Jayden Daniels', carry on wayward sons. Environment and situations matter. This isn't to say Caleb can improve, because he absolutely can, but the problems with the franchise in question are bigger than him. Jayden Daniels on the Bears yields similar results last year. Daniels was in a far better situation than Williams was because the new ownership went out and hired good people upstairs, in the coaching staff and brought in good players. The Commanders nailed it.

They need to retool the OL and retool Caleb. That starts with bringing in a guy like Rudolph based on the job he just did at Notre Dame. Joe is 52 and has never coached in the League. If he wants to, the time might be now for him regardless of whatever biases people have about Caleb Williams and don't want to admit.
Click to expand...
But if a couple things went differently, this was a 12 win team!
 
Jiggafini19Deux

Jiggafini19Deux

Minister of Delayed Gratification
Messages
13,485
Reaction score
14,225
NDRock said:
One of those being drafting Jayden Daniels.
Click to expand...
You think he would have been immune from The franchise that has basically ruined every QB they've touched since Sid Fucking Luckman?

Give dude the gold jacket now.
 
Bane

Bane

Well-known member
Messages
2,305
Reaction score
4,848
Jiggafini19Deux said:
You think he would have been immune from The franchise that has basically ruined every QB they've touched since Sid Fucking Luckman?

Give dude the gold jacket now.
Click to expand...
He's a better passer than Williams with a better deep ball, and way better pocket presence. CW going #1 overall as this can't miss prospect always baffled me, it was a narrative that formed towards the end of his freshman year and was never questioned.
 
Bane

Bane

Well-known member
Messages
2,305
Reaction score
4,848
Jiggafini19Deux said:
So they were bad, but if we insist on blaming the mom hugger with nail polish whose numbers weren't really any different from Jayden Daniels', carry on wayward sons. Environment and situations matter.
Click to expand...
Yeah and the context of those bulk numbers for CW are extremely deceiving. How much of his seemingly decent counting stat numbers are a function of him and the offense looking like shit for 2-3 quarters, falling behind 3+ scores, and then feasting on prevent defenses? I seem to remember numerous games where CW went into the half like 3/13 for 25 yards and ended up with like 200ish yards making it seem okay on the box score.
 
B

brewdog_14527

Well-known member
Messages
546
Reaction score
343
dublinirish said:
At the end of the day Driskell will defend any ND player as long as the players dad will be his snitch. This is clearly the case with Rocco
Click to expand...
They did the same thing with Al Washington in the Justin Scott recruitment. They continuously talked about how Scott was a good kid (maybe his is, no idea) and how he was not a bag chaser and wouldn't leave the midwest when it was all said and done. Then he absolutely chased the bag to go to Miami, and the IB guys just kept beating their drum. They can't come off their opinions if it results in the kid not being exactly what they said he was.
 
Jiggafini19Deux

Jiggafini19Deux

Minister of Delayed Gratification
Messages
13,485
Reaction score
14,225
Bane said:
He's a better passer than Williams with a better deep ball, and way better pocket presence. CW going #1 overall as this can't miss prospect always baffled me, it was a narrative that formed towards the end of his freshman year and was never questioned.
Click to expand...

There are multiple narratives around him that don't make sense to me either. For all of his faults, his 2023 and 2024 surroundings were not great. You see the shit show USC is now and then the Bears fired their OC and HC in midseason.
Bane said:
Yeah and the context of those bulk numbers for CW are extremely deceiving. How much of his seemingly decent counting stat numbers are a function of him and the offense looking like shit for 2-3 quarters, falling behind 3+ scores, and then feasting on prevent defenses? I seem to remember numerous games where CW went into the half like 3/13 for 25 yards and ended up with like 200ish yards making it seem okay on the box score.
Click to expand...
Very fair points. I don't know if the picks have been swapped what it all would have looked like. I just know that the Commanders made moves before and after drafting Daniels that were spot on. They nailed it, and the proof was in the results.

The Bears kept the coaching staff around that was eventually fired, they lost the locker room and what was at one point a promising season went to shit when they lost to the Commanders on the Hail Mary.

The Commanders ownership made moves and got just about all of them right. Chicago sports fans don't have much of a clue what that looks like. If they are interviewing Joe Rudolph, I take it as a good sign
 
GrangerIrish24

GrangerIrish24

I bring nothing to the table
Messages
6,975
Reaction score
14,640
Jiggafini19Deux said:
mqdefault.jpg


Irish Envy ND fans surrounding The Gug doors.
Click to expand...
I’m on campus. I’ll handle this.
 
NDRock

NDRock

Well-known member
Messages
7,489
Reaction score
5,448
Jiggafini19Deux said:
You think he would have been immune from The franchise that has basically ruined every QB they've touched since Sid Fucking Luckman?

Give dude the gold jacket now.
Click to expand...
I do think Daniels is better and will be better but who really knows what the next 5 years will bring. CW may be an all timer. I do enjoy poking a little fun at CW as Bear's fans get very defensive (understandably) about him.
 
Irish#1

Irish#1

Livin' Your Dream!
Staff member
Messages
44,605
Reaction score
20,076
Not every coach jumps at the opportunity to go to the NFL. Some like working with the younger kids and watch them develop. Some are more pragmatic. They may have their eye on the NFL, but want to make sure it's the right opportunity. The Bears have been a dumpster fire for a long time. That may not be attractive to Rudolph. I wouldn't be surprised if he called Harry to get his opinion and this is the reason they are saying he's not interested.
 
Bane

Bane

Well-known member
Messages
2,305
Reaction score
4,848
Jiggafini19Deux said:
There are multiple narratives around him that don't make sense to me either. For all of his faults, his 2023 and 2024 surroundings were not great. You see the shit show USC is now and then the Bears fired their OC and HC in midseason.

Very fair points. I don't know if the picks have been swapped what it all would have looked like. I just know that the Commanders made moves before and after drafting Daniels that were spot on. They nailed it, and the proof was in the results.

The Bears kept the coaching staff around that was eventually fired, they lost the locker room and what was at one point a promising season went to shit when they lost to the Commanders on the Hail Mary.

The Commanders ownership made moves and got just about all of them right. Chicago sports fans don't have much of a clue what that looks like. If they are interviewing Joe Rudolph, I take it as a good sign
Click to expand...
I will say that keeping Eberflus was a big blunder. In the same vein I think keeping y’all’s GM is also a bad move. Not a fan of having mismatched GMs and coaches unless the GM or coach are long standing great leaders.
 
Jiggafini19Deux

Jiggafini19Deux

Minister of Delayed Gratification
Messages
13,485
Reaction score
14,225
Don't worry. Ohio State will just triple his salary so he stays. This is how athletics works.
 
Giddyup

Giddyup

Well-known member
Messages
4,595
Reaction score
3,035
MF didn’t fire Harry just to have his pick Rudy leave after two years. They’re tied at the hip now
 
I

IrishTusker

Well-known member
Messages
1,706
Reaction score
1,771
Is there any evidence that ND's ability to recruit OL/have a good a OL depends on a particular coach? It doesn't seem like it does to me.
 
Dale

Dale

Well-known member
Messages
16,115
Reaction score
27,373
Not a flight tracker expert, but that plane instantly then departs OSU for somewhere else. Couldn’t they just need the plane and it’s currently in South Bend?

People have also found planes like every other day this week between the two, when we’ve known Rudolph is elsewhere lol. Maybe we use the same jet company?
 
irishff1014

irishff1014

Well-known member
Messages
26,513
Reaction score
9,288
Dale said:
Not a flight tracker expert, but that plane instantly then departs OSU for somewhere else. Couldn’t they just need the plane and it’s currently in South Bend?

People have also found planes like every other day this week between the two, when we’ve known Rudolph is elsewhere lol. Maybe we use the same jet company?
Click to expand...

A poster on 247 said he saw on an OSU site that Joe wasn’t on their list.
 
I

IrishFanForever23

Well-known member
Messages
1,216
Reaction score
595
irishff1014 said:
A poster on 247 said he saw on an OSU site that Joe wasn’t on their list.
Click to expand...
Pretty sure he linked the latest OSU 247 site article. However, he was wrong as that article has a link to their initial list the OSU site put out embedded in it and they do list Rudolph as an option if none of these latest options pan out. It’s hidden in this latest article, but they have a blurb that says something like if one of these candidates don’t work out, here’s our initial list etc.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top