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In all seriousness... why do you ask silly questions?
Because that post had several paragraphs and exclamation points. To strangers. About politics. On a football website. Do you tell your friends about how you spend your free time?
 

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Because that post had several paragraphs and exclamation points. To strangers. About politics. On a football website. Do you tell your friends about how you spend your free time?

Copy & Paste, no big effort; had to make sure Drayer54 understood it's not something he (and you and NDVA19) can just blow off as your and his replies to everything is to try scoff and try to discredit anyone's comments that challenge your way of thinking as "cuckoos." And it's this is the "Politics" portion of the football website so lighten up.
 
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Copy & Paste, no big effort; had to make sure Drayer54 understood it's not something he (and you and NDVA19) can just blow off as your and his replies to everything is to try scoff and try to discredit anyone's comments that challenge your way of thinking as "cuckoos." And it's this is the "Politics" portion of the football website so lighten up.
Your cause is most noble and we will put ND keyboard Warrior on the pedestal of IE righteousness.
 

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Your cause is most noble and we will put ND keyboard Warrior on the pedestal of IE righteousness.
Stupid… You can make fun all you want. This shit is real and needs to be addressed. I love ND Football, but I love my country more and it’s a real POC these days. Now get on with your weekend and back to being an IE miscreant.
 
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Why am I not surprised that IE MAGA is enthralled with a racist fraudster with ties to prominent fascist groups? Since plotting movements to bomb those Muslims that we know IE MAGA hates isn’t really an issue (probably a plus), maybe the movement that inspired Anders Bevik would give someone pause?

We’re a few weeks away from a “Was the Christchurch shooting actually a good thing?” we already got EDL promo going on here.
 

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Lmao perfect encapsulation of IE MAGA getting lied to and wanting it to be true so hard they debase themselves to look to Tommy Robinson for guidance in their non-white crusade.

 

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Just like the many things Trump and his deep-pocket puppet masters do in the US, it's manufactured

 

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Also serves as fuel for The UK's race to put maximum digital/AI surveillance and drones in place as quickly as possible.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3d2ryyz0jzo

From this BBC article:

"The Met said the risks meant it had to impose the "highest degree of control", including the first use of live facial recognition cameras as part of a protest policing operation.

Live facial recognition was used at Euston and King's Cross St Pancras railway stations, where people attending the Unite the Kingdom march were likely to have arrived.

Drones were used to monitor both protest routes, while officers in Wembley monitored CCTV feeds from the FA Cup final to identify supporters travelling towards demonstrations."
 

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And lastly, as usual, there is plenty of child and sex abuse and cover up involved here. Grooming gangs (who are purported to be largely Pakistini-Brit controlled) and not really prosecuted in the name of being branded "Islamophobic."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/mar/31/grooming-gangs-inquiry-examine-role-ethnicity-culture-religion

The question is who are the customers? I'm sure plenty from Britain's elite and powerful and they are protected and never prosecuted.
So you have a dynamic that's allowed to continue without any repercussions and does nothing but fuel the working-class white rage against "Islamic invaders."
(Add to that that Britain really doesn't do anything to control the influx of asylum boats from France into the UK adding more fuel to the fire.)

Bottom line is that Islamic immigrants largely settle in poor and white working class areas of England and Wales, etc., and that's where young white working-class children and young girls are being groomed to be ultimately sexually abused... What a perfect firestorm for UK white working class rage against "Islamic Invaders."

I think Britain could do a lot more to quell this shit, but they won't because it serves the elite's interests, even if this is being managed by the Left-leaning Labour Party. It proves, Left or Right, politicians for quite some time now (if not since modern industrialization) serve the elite and their desire for total control and domination over the masses.
(Not in a Communist Manifesto kind of way; Capitalism is still the best system IMO, but where it's being co-opted and manipulated to become more of an Oligarchic and distorted system of control by a wealthy minority.
 

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Stupid… You can make fun all you want. This shit is real and needs to be addressed. I love ND Football, but I love my country more and it’s a real POC these days. Now get on with your weekend and back to being an IE miscreant.
You're right, and nothing moves the needle more for just causes than arguing with strangers on the internet. Kudos.
 

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Why am I not surprised that IE MAGA is enthralled with a racist fraudster with ties to prominent fascist groups? Since plotting movements to bomb those Muslims that we know IE MAGA hates isn’t really an issue (probably a plus), maybe the movement that inspired Anders Bevik would give someone pause?

We’re a few weeks away from a “Was the Christchurch shooting actually a good thing?” we already got EDL promo going on here.
1) IE MAGA dudes got you so riled up that you're posting at 230am? Seek help.

2) You admitted not long ago that you would NOT want to live in a Muslim dominant country, yet here you are trying to demonize people who don't want to see their country overrun by foreigners whose religion and culture do not align with American values. The hypocrisy is comical.
 

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You're right, and nothing moves the needle more for just causes than arguing with strangers on the internet. Kudos.

Totally...

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Isn't that the whole point of the Political Threads section?

Why is anyone posting on here? Because we have points of view, some of which others may not agree with, and we can post them anonymously.

Your style is to diminish other posters' comments and intelligence in a condescending tone and that says a lot about you IMO.

Sure, I go deep on things at times but that kind of depth is needed at times to uncover the face-value disinformation that political leaders like to disseminate to their constituents.

And sure, maybe it doesn't matter here, but again, isn't debating the point of this thread, however it's done? Why this thread is called "political threads?"

(You know you can just block my posts if they're so irksome to you - Right?)

You're such a bad-ass sales guy... You don't always post on here (in fact, you only reply to posts), but when you do, you prefer to bluntly dismiss others' posts as those that are from crazed lunatics who don't know wtf they're talking about.

You're the most rational poster on IE and you don't have time to post 9-5 M-F because you're too damn busy making beaucoup bucks in the business world... Stay dumb, my IE peasants.

Congratulations, you're so fucking cool and one righteous dude! 👏👏👏
 
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1) IE MAGA dudes got you so riled up that you're posting at 230am? Seek help.

2) You admitted not long ago that you would NOT want to live in a Muslim dominant country, yet here you are trying to demonize people who don't want to see their country overrun by foreigners whose religion and culture do not align with American values. The hypocrisy is comical.

1) I’m not in North America currently. The tech savvy moderator who liked your post can verify that.

2) You know that’s a rally from the UK right? Like you took the bare minimum effort to see that yeah? Maybe there’s a more cogent speaker or ideology than a guy who inspired Anders Brevik.
 

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1) I’m not in North America currently. The tech savvy moderator who liked your post can verify that.

2) You know that’s a rally from the UK right? Like you took the bare minimum effort to see that yeah? Maybe there’s a more cogent speaker or ideology than a guy who inspired Anders Brevik.
Did I just get promoted from aging bigot boomer white dude to tech savvy moderator?
 

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Did I just get promoted from aging bigot boomer white dude to tech savvy moderator?
Never said bigot, you’d have to understand what you’re actually posting and who the people are. If you knew who Tommy Robinson and the EDL were and still posted it, then you’d be a bigot.
 

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Totally...

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Isn't that the whole point of the Political Threads section?

Why is anyone posting on here? Because we have points of view, some of which others may not agree with, and we can post them anonymously.

Your style is to diminish other posters' comments and intelligence in a condescending tone and that says a lot about you IMO.

Sure, I go deep on things at times but that kind of depth is needed at times to uncover the face-value disinformation that political leaders like to disseminate to their constituents.

And sure, maybe it doesn't matter here, but again, isn't debating the point of this thread, however it's done? Why this thread is called "political threads?"

(You know you can just block my posts if they're so irksome to you - Right?)

You're such a bad-ass sales guy... You don't always post on here (in fact, you only reply to posts), but when you do, you prefer to bluntly dismiss others' posts as those that are from crazed lunatics who don't know wtf they're talking about.

You're the most rational poster on IE and you don't have time to post 9-5 M-F because you're too damn busy making beaucoup bucks in the business world... Stay dumb, my IE peasants.

Congratulations, you're so fucking cool and one righteous dude! 👏👏👏
Yes I am rational and yes I would rather work and make money M-F 9-5 instead of arguing with strangers on the internet. That doesn't make me righteous and never said I was, but it would indicate I have my priorities in line.

You just keep solving all the world's problems one rant after another and I'll keep rolling my eyes.
 

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1) I’m not in North America currently. The tech savvy moderator who liked your post can verify that.

2) You know that’s a rally from the UK right? Like you took the bare minimum effort to see that yeah? Maybe there’s a more cogent speaker or ideology than a guy who inspired Anders Brevik.
You claimed IE MAGA is on a non-white crusade, which is mind numbing on two fronts. First, the majority of Americans' position on immigration isn't skin color. It's about legal vs illegal immigration and that holds whether you're coming from Korea or Argentina. Second, one could easily argue that Islam has been on a crusade for the past two decades that started in Europe and their next conquest is the US.
 

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You claimed IE MAGA is on a non-white crusade, which is mind numbing on two fronts. First, the majority of Americans' position on immigration isn't skin color. It's about legal vs illegal immigration and that holds whether you're coming from Korea or Argentina. Second, one could easily argue that Islam has been on a crusade for the past two decades that started in Europe and their next conquest is the US.
It’s a conquest of rape.

 

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It’s a conquest of rape.



Dude, look at the guy who posted it. I mean his twitter user name is "Traveling israel" and he's tweeting about Palestinians. Come on...

One quick chat prompt returns:

"The graphic itself appears to be based on real Danish government data (Statistics Denmark, STRAFNA4 and FOLK1C datasets), and the numbers shown in the chart are likely accurate representations of that data. However, the narrative accompanying it contains several significant misleading elements worth unpacking.
What the data actually shows The charts display overrepresentation rates — meaning Palestinians in Denmark are convicted of rape at 12x the rate of native Danes, proportional to their population size. That is what the graphic says, and it's consistent with what Statistics Denmark publishes.
Where the narrative misleads
  • Selection bias in immigration: Denmark's Palestinian population is heavily skewed toward refugees and low-income migrants, not a representative cross-section of Palestinians globally. Overrepresentation in crime statistics strongly correlates with poverty, unemployment, social marginalization, and young male demographics — not ethnicity or nationality per se. The data doesn't control for any of these confounders.
  • Small population sizes amplify rates: When a group is small, a handful of convictions can produce dramatically large multipliers. The absolute number of Palestinian-origin people in Denmark is very small, so statistical noise matters a lot.
  • "Not surprised. Are you?" — This framing treats the data as confirmation of an ethnic or cultural predisposition to crime, which the data does not support and which statisticians and criminologists consistently warn against.
  • Denmark tracking criminal backgrounds: Many countries track this. Denmark is not uniquely transparent here.
Bottom line: The graphic is a legitimate-looking visualization of real government statistics. The accompanying narrative uses those numbers accurately in the narrow sense but frames them in a way that implies inherent ethnic criminality, which the data cannot support and which most researchers would reject as a conclusion."
 

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Yes I am rational and yes I would rather work and make money M-F 9-5 instead of arguing with strangers on the internet. That doesn't make me righteous and never said I was, but it would indicate I have my priorities in line.

You just keep solving all the world's problems one rant after another and I'll keep rolling my eyes.

Your reply is laughable tho' because you're on here just about every day, even if it's outside your "holy M-F 9-5" so yes, you are righteous.

I'm hardly trying to solve all the world's problems... I simply don't take the more MAGA-oriented posters simpleton one-off posts on here or whatever comes out of Trump's mouth as Gospel, nor do I believe that every staged suicide event or supposed assassination is what is appears to be. I try to expose the fallacies even if you guys don't believe what I post... At least I tried 😉

You see that's important for a society and government so that we don't just live our lives "selling and making money" and living on auto pilot until one day we wake up and we're living in a dystopian nightmare.

With the current admin where the guy in charge has no moral compass or goals for the country (I don't care what he says, I care what he actually does), and really is just doing the bidding for the power brokers behind his ascent to the Presidency, you never know what's going to happen to our country and where it might find itself.

And maybe, just maybe, you're humming along making a lot of $ until one day, you're not... Just saying.

All the best to you and your "in-line priorities."
 

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Dude, look at the guy who posted it. I mean his twitter user name is "Traveling israel" and he's tweeting about Palestinians. Come on...

One quick chat prompt returns:

"The graphic itself appears to be based on real Danish government data (Statistics Denmark, STRAFNA4 and FOLK1C datasets), and the numbers shown in the chart are likely accurate representations of that data. However, the narrative accompanying it contains several significant misleading elements worth unpacking.
What the data actually shows The charts display overrepresentation rates — meaning Palestinians in Denmark are convicted of rape at 12x the rate of native Danes, proportional to their population size. That is what the graphic says, and it's consistent with what Statistics Denmark publishes.
Where the narrative misleads
  • Selection bias in immigration: Denmark's Palestinian population is heavily skewed toward refugees and low-income migrants, not a representative cross-section of Palestinians globally. Overrepresentation in crime statistics strongly correlates with poverty, unemployment, social marginalization, and young male demographics — not ethnicity or nationality per se. The data doesn't control for any of these confounders.
  • Small population sizes amplify rates: When a group is small, a handful of convictions can produce dramatically large multipliers. The absolute number of Palestinian-origin people in Denmark is very small, so statistical noise matters a lot.
  • "Not surprised. Are you?" — This framing treats the data as confirmation of an ethnic or cultural predisposition to crime, which the data does not support and which statisticians and criminologists consistently warn against.
  • Denmark tracking criminal backgrounds: Many countries track this. Denmark is not uniquely transparent here.
Bottom line: The graphic is a legitimate-looking visualization of real government statistics. The accompanying narrative uses those numbers accurately in the narrow sense but frames them in a way that implies inherent ethnic criminality, which the data cannot support and which most researchers would reject as a conclusion."
Oh bless your fragile little heart, sweetie pie. 😂


You slithered in with the tired progressive script: “It’s just poverty bro, small sample size, selection bias, don’t look at the data, look at his username instead!” while Danish Statistics Denmark’s own STRAFNA4 and FOLK1C datasets sit there laughing at you. Palestinians clocking 12 times the native Danish rape conviction rate per capita isn’t “noise,” it’s a five-alarm fire. Non-Western migrants (barely 10-11% of the population) are responsible for roughly one-third of all rapes and a grotesque share of violent crime. Second-generation Somalis, Iraqis, Lebanese, etc.? Still 2-4x overrepresented. The gap survives controls for age, income, and education. Cope.exe has crashed.


“Selection bias!” Every damn time. Yes, these are low-skilled refugee waves from honor-culture societies where women are chattel and rape is a conquest flex. Same pattern in Sweden’s grooming gangs, Germany’s New Year’s mass assaults, France’s banlieue knife parties. Meanwhile East Asians and Vietnamese under identical “poverty” don’t magically spawn rape epidemics. Culture, IQ distributions, and failed integration are doing the heavy lifting your ideology forbids you from naming.


And then — peak comedy — you immediately default to “Dude, look at his Twitter name: Traveling Israel!” Classic. Can’t refute government crime stats, so attack the messenger for the unforgivable sin of having “Israel” in his handle. We all see you, Dems/Hamas caucus warriors. Same crew behind campus tent jihads, Jewish students locked in libraries, “globalize the intifada” chants, and the sudden selective blindness on women’s rights the moment it conflicts with importing the next crime wave. Ad hominem is all that’s left when the numbers are this brutal.


This isn’t cartoon villainy. It’s cold pattern recognition: Import large volumes of young males from high-crime, low-trust, medieval-patriarchy societies + welfare magnets + zero assimilation = European women paying the price their grandmothers never did. Denmark’s own data confirms it. Sweden, UK, France, Germany — the continental rape-and-robbery tour is fully booked.


The data doesn’t care about your feelings, your hashtags, or your performative concern for “marginalized” rapists.


Not surprised.


Are you? 😉
 

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You claimed IE MAGA is on a non-white crusade, which is mind numbing on two fronts. First, the majority of Americans' position on immigration isn't skin color. It's about legal vs illegal immigration and that holds whether you're coming from Korea or Argentina. Second, one could easily argue that Islam has been on a crusade for the past two decades that started in Europe and their next conquest is the US.

Couple things - MAGA isn’t majority, not even close. You most certainly care about ethnicity, you seem to forget about your little crusade to deport all legal Chinese students studying on visas. Majority of Americans do think it’s it legal vs illegal but you and the of the IE MAGA gang have shifted to the “cultural” replacement theory that isnt based on the legality of someone’s immigration status.

How’s that crusade going? I’ve been told Sharia Law is going to be implemented any day now! Maybe Saint Tommy Robinson can give you some tips on where the next battle is going to be fought. You can join Anders Brevik in the trenches against the jihad.
 

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Couple things - MAGA isn’t majority, not even close. You most certainly care about ethnicity, you seem to forget about your little crusade to deport all legal Chinese students studying on visas. Majority of Americans do think it’s it legal vs illegal but you and the of the IE MAGA gang have shifted to the “cultural” replacement theory that isnt based on the legality of someone’s immigration status.

How’s that crusade going? I’ve been told Sharia Law is going to be implemented any day now! Maybe Saint Tommy Robinson can give you some tips on where the next battle is going to be fought. You can join Anders Brevik in the trenches against the jihad.
These are your fake goal posts. A straw man argument to move failure further away.
 

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These are your fake goal posts. A straw man argument to move failure further away.
Do you even know what you’re arguing? Leppy and others said to deport all Chinese nationals. Unless they’re all here illegally, you’re going to hit some people here legally.

It’s never been about legality, at least the mask is off.
 

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Are student Visas an irrevocable "right"? They are guests in this country and there is no reason we cannot revoke that invitation at any time for any reason.

I know the purposefully obtuse aren't trying to have a real debate and just want to troll but just b/c I let someone into my house doesn't mean I revoke the right to tell them to GTFO at any time for any reason.
 

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Oh bless your fragile little heart, sweetie pie. 😂


You slithered in with the tired progressive script: “It’s just poverty bro, small sample size, selection bias, don’t look at the data, look at his username instead!” while Danish Statistics Denmark’s own STRAFNA4 and FOLK1C datasets sit there laughing at you. Palestinians clocking 12 times the native Danish rape conviction rate per capita isn’t “noise,” it’s a five-alarm fire. Non-Western migrants (barely 10-11% of the population) are responsible for roughly one-third of all rapes and a grotesque share of violent crime. Second-generation Somalis, Iraqis, Lebanese, etc.? Still 2-4x overrepresented. The gap survives controls for age, income, and education. Cope.exe has crashed.


“Selection bias!” Every damn time. Yes, these are low-skilled refugee waves from honor-culture societies where women are chattel and rape is a conquest flex. Same pattern in Sweden’s grooming gangs, Germany’s New Year’s mass assaults, France’s banlieue knife parties. Meanwhile East Asians and Vietnamese under identical “poverty” don’t magically spawn rape epidemics. Culture, IQ distributions, and failed integration are doing the heavy lifting your ideology forbids you from naming.


And then — peak comedy — you immediately default to “Dude, look at his Twitter name: Traveling Israel!” Classic. Can’t refute government crime stats, so attack the messenger for the unforgivable sin of having “Israel” in his handle. We all see you, Dems/Hamas caucus warriors. Same crew behind campus tent jihads, Jewish students locked in libraries, “globalize the intifada” chants, and the sudden selective blindness on women’s rights the moment it conflicts with importing the next crime wave. Ad hominem is all that’s left when the numbers are this brutal.


This isn’t cartoon villainy. It’s cold pattern recognition: Import large volumes of young males from high-crime, low-trust, medieval-patriarchy societies + welfare magnets + zero assimilation = European women paying the price their grandmothers never did. Denmark’s own data confirms it. Sweden, UK, France, Germany — the continental rape-and-robbery tour is fully booked.


The data doesn’t care about your feelings, your hashtags, or your performative concern for “marginalized” rapists.


Not surprised.


Are you? 😉

At least you called me "sweetie pie" and not "idiot" 😉

You do have quite the imagination tho' with such a detailed narrative for what you believe I stand for.

All I said is the biased application of Danish data by a highly-charged Zionist "travel guide." is not your best look for making your case.

And I agree that clashes of cultures and resulting crime (incl. rape) are serious issues, although Europe does not = The US.

Why do you think the European countries and their powers don't better control immigration? (Honest question)

Also, who are you exactly saying is the driving force behind this "playbook?"
It’s cold pattern recognition: Import large volumes of young males from high-crime, low-trust, medieval-patriarchy societies + welfare magnets + zero assimilation = European women paying the price their grandmothers never did.
 
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