Immigration

[NorthDakota]

Could also say the same thing about everyone in this administration...that doesn't change the fact that was is occurring is a miscarriage of justice.

It's not a miscarriage of justice. An illegal immigrant got deported to his homeland. That is very normal and very good

 

[BuaConstrictor]

There is no responsibility to fix that.

SCOTUS disagrees.

There is no order demanding he be brought back.

The SCOTUS has ordered the government to facilitate his return.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

It's not a miscarriage of justice.

It absolutely is.

 

[NorthDakota]

SCOTUS disagrees.

The SCOTUS has ordered the government to facilitate his return.

They already facilitated his return. They offered to go get him. El Salvador said no.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

They already facilitated his return. They offered to go get him. El Salvador said no.

Are you of the mind that if the most powerful person in the world wanted to get someone out of El Salvador that he couldn't do it?

 

[NorthDakota]

It absolutely is.

No it isn't. A guy with a deportation order got deported. Just to the wrong place. Tough luck. He's not American, never has been, and never would be.

 

[NorthDakota]

Are you of the mind that if the most powerful person in the world wanted to get someone out of El Salvador that he couldn't do it?

That's not how it works. The courts don't dictate foreign policy.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

No it isn't.

Yes it is.

A guy with a deportation order got deported.

There was no deportation order. It was stayed.

An illegal immigrant got deported to his homeland

Just to the wrong place.

So...pick one?

 

[TorontoGold]

defiance is defined as "open disobedience." They said it was an accident. Not not open disobedience.

If I say "oops missed my court hearing!" do I get the same kiddy gloves?

 

[BuaConstrictor]

That's not how it works. The courts don't dictate foreign policy.

Did I say anything in that post about the courts?

 

[TorontoGold]

Yeah he gave her a black eye but she was just being silly when she said he was abusive!

Do you apply this kind of thought to all people? Just want to see which evidence is ok and which is "well it's a he said she said!"

 

[NorthDakota]

If I say "oops missed my court hearing!" do I get the same kiddy gloves?

Honestly, sometimes.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Do you apply this kind of thought to all people?

"Just people of other races." -NDVirginia19

 

[NorthDakota]

Yes it is.

There was no deportation order. It was stayed.




So...pick one?

What?

 

[BuaConstrictor]

What?

You seem confused again.

 

[NorthDakota]

Did I say anything in that post about the courts?

Meaning Donald's argument (and SCOTUS indicated they agree) that he doesn't need to negotiate or demand is correct.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

If beating your wife it's grounds for deportation, the first Americans to go should be cops.

 

[TorontoGold]

Honestly, sometimes.

Oh trust me, I showed up to fight a speeding ticket in a suit to a rural town. The cop thought I was a lawyer and knocked it all the way down to the minimum because "A guy like you needs to get back to work and not be with these losers".

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Meaning Donald's argument (and SCOTUS indicated they agree) that he doesn't need to negotiate or demand is correct.

Also not what I said.

 

[NorthDakota]

If beating your wife it's grounds for deportation, the first Americans to go should be cops.

If they are foreign born, sure why not.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

"A guy like you needs to get back to work and not be with these losers".

Man..was he wrong.

 

[NorthDakota]

Oh trust me, I showed up to fight a speeding ticket in a suit to a rural town. The cop thought I was a lawyer and knocked it all the way down to the minimum because "A guy like you needs to get back to work and not be with these losers".

Some judges go the opposite way. Will bend over backwards for losers. Which is fine. Lots of discretion. Things happen.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

If beating your wife it's grounds for deportation, the first Americans to go should be cops.

Can we discuss the irony of people who voted for a rapist, serial sexual assaulter, and serial adulterer now taking women's rights VERY seriously?

 

[ColoradoIrish]

If they are foreign born, sure why not.

So you disagree with Trump on his stance about natural born citizens getting sent away if they're violent criminals?

 

[NorthDakota]

Also not what I said.

It's the jist. You seem to think because Donald Trump can do something and the court told him to do something else that he should do the thing he could do.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

It's the jist.

No, it's not.

 

[NorthDakota]

Can we discuss the irony of people who voted for a rapist, serial sexual assaulter, and serial adulterer now taking women's rights VERY seriously?

What rights?

 

[NDVirginia19]

Do you apply this kind of thought to all people? Just want to see which evidence is ok and which is "well it's a he said she said!"

I mean, do you think her report to the police she made four years is more credible than a statement she released now through her attorney under the threat of her husband being deported?

 

[NorthDakota]

No, it's not.

Yes. It is. You'll say it isn't. But it is. And that's okay. You are upset that an illegal immigrant got deported, and while Donald could get him back, he won't try unless the Supreme Court says he needs to (if even then)

 

[BuaConstrictor]

I am not married.

What rights?

Thanks for clarifying.