Golson in the future?

[Sheppy]

The reality is, someone's gonna leave. Golson looks good, Kiel and Zaire are hyped as great QB's....

If Golson keeps up his improvement, I would think he'd be the guy, Kiel will leave, and we'll be just fine with Zaire coming in.

If Golson is the starter next year, I really can't fault Kiel for transferring. That's just the reality of college football, guys are gonna leave now and then if the situation isn't good for them.

 

[Irishnuke]

I really think Kiel was over ranked last year. Watching him I didn't see anything that made him an elite can't miss prospect. That's just my opinion. The thing is golson will only get better with his reads. Like I said barring injury golson will be the starter the next 3 years.

No knock on you but I'll take the opinion of BK, Les Miles, Nick Saban and every other head coach that offered Kiel over yours. Forgot to mention all the recruiting services and recruiting analysts that watched him play. Golson has played well to this point but we need to make one thing clear, we're 8-0 because of our defense, not our QBs.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

If Golson put on 30 in offseason we would have the next Cam Newton ... no italics.

 

[Irish YJ]

No knock on you but I'll take the opinion of BK, Les Miles, Nick Saban and every other head coach that offered Kiel over yours. Forgot to mention all the recruiting services and recruiting analysts that watched him play. Golson has played well to this point but we need to make one thing clear, we're 8-0 because of our defense, not our QBs.

YUP

 

[West Coast Domer]

8-0 that is all

 

[Irishnuke]

If Golson put on 30 in offseason we would have the next Cam Newton ... no italics.

I appreciate your enthusiasm. I'll leave it at that.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

Not so fast my friend . If EG struggled late, BK brings TR in. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME..... lol. Believe me, I'm an EG guy, but I don't think BK has ruled anything out. 1 good game does not cement the position IMO.

IF he struggles...

In what was ND's biggest game of the year (and away from home) he learned to throw the ball away and run out of bounds, which were the reasons why he was taken out of earlier games. Don't doubt that he will struggle again just not to the point where Kelly pulls him.

But I agree if struggles badly then Kelly makes the switch.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

I appreciate your enthusiasm. I'll leave it at that.

Lol. Sometimes the homer takes over in me and I become irrational.

 

[mrmiller8]

Lol. Sometimes the homer takes over in me and I become irrational.

You become a diva when your excited about ND football...have a snickers...

 

[ickythump1225]

Your right but that is flat out ridiculous, If Golson is the QB all year and BK doesn't open that job up next year, Kiel will transfer back to IU. You don't recruit the number one QB in the nation and sit him for three years to start one. Nor do you come to a school as a top recruit to be a backup....

What if we win the MNC this year with Golson? If Golson continues to progress and get better and we win it all with Golson (or even if we stay undefeated and get frozen out of the MNC but win a BCS game) then doesn't he deserve the job next year? I mean why rock the boat and mess with what's working? Just because Kiel was a bigger prospect doesn't mean he'll perform better and we'll have to go through the learning and building process all over again next year. Give me the guy with a whole season under his belt with plenty of potential himself over the guy with nothing but potential and good scouting reports. EG's not chopped liver and top shelf talent himself.

 

[NDBoiler]

Good point. I never thought about that for Hendrix. I wonder if he'd be willing to. He's obviously a great athlete and could play another position if he set his mind to it.

Hendy-Dozer

 

[ulukinatme]

So next year, our QB situaish will look like Golson, Tommy, Hendrix, Gunner, and Zaire. It might as well be a QB camp!

Quite the setup. You have to wonder if one of these guys will leave though. Reminds me of the start to the '07 season. Little different circumstance as we didn't have a starter set at that point, but we had 3-4 big time QB recruits and 2 ended up transferring since they didn't get the job. I don't imagine Tommy would leave for his senior season, probably the same goes for Hendrix. Gunner is in a spot because if Golson stays all 4 years as I would expect then Kiel only gets a year to show what he can do. Same thing with Zaire.

 

[Riddickulous]

Hendy-Dozer

Hendozer.

And two more years? Golson will never make it in the pros. Way too small.

 

[ickythump1225]

If Golson put on 30 in offseason we would have the next Cam Newton ... no italics.

Yeah 30 pounds is all he needs:
Everett Golson- 6'0 185

Cam Newton-6'5 245

Everett needs about 5 inches and 60 pounds. No I see Golson progressing into more of a pass first run when need be kind of guy. John Elway was that way. (I'm not saying he's going to become the next Elway or anything he was just pass first run if need be QB.)

 

[NDBoiler]

Quite the setup. You have to wonder if one of these guys will leave though. Reminds me of the start to the '07 season. Little different circumstance as we didn't have a starter set at that point, but we had 3-4 big time QB recruits and 2 ended up transferring since they didn't get the job. I don't imagine Tommy would leave for his senior season, probably the same goes for Hendrix. Gunner is in a spot because if Golson stays all 4 years as I would expect then Kiel only gets a year to show what he can do. Same thing with Zaire.

This pains me to think about for the guys at the QB position. Gunner is just in a tough spot if Golson continues to develop, but you gotta do what it takes to win. So maybe Gunner steps up and his high level of potential takes over, and he becomes the starter next year or after, then what would Golson do? What would Zaire do knowing he'll be sitting behind Golson and/or Kiel for years? It just sucks that there is so much talent at this position and not enough PT to go around. In a way, it almost feels like there will be a roster spot or two wasted if someone transfers and there could've been someone else brought in with that transfer's class at another position of greater need. I guess there is such thing as too muich depth at this position, which is really weird to think about.

 

[mrmiller8]

What if we win the MNC this year with Golson? If Golson continues to progress and get better and we win it all with Golson (or even if we stay undefeated and get frozen out of the MNC but win a BCS game) then doesn't he deserve the job next year? I mean why rock the boat and mess with what's working? Just because Kiel was a bigger prospect doesn't mean he'll perform better and we'll have to go through the learning and building process all over again next year. Give me the guy with a whole season under his belt with plenty of potential himself over the guy with nothing but potential and good scouting reports. EG's not chopped liver and top shelf talent himself.

I am not saying that he should open the job...If had a starting QB who led me to a BCS bowl as a redshirt freshman, I'm sticking with him until proves (in a game) that he can't do something physically or mentally that the other guy can do (that being kiel). You best be damned straight that Kiel must have a better grasp of the playbook and provide something that Golson can't....Which in my humble opinion, I have watched scouting films of both and can't put a finger on what exactly Kiel would be that much better at than everett at...

 

[mrmiller8]

Hendozer.

And two more years? Golson will never make it in the pros. Way too small.

No way in hell he is an NFL player, well a good one at least...Tim Tebow is an NFL player too, not sure why but whatever.(not comparing tebow to golson, I live in SEC country, just taking a shot)....I was referring to the hiesman...hence the picture of the heisman pose vs. OU...

 

[Crimson streak]

I am not saying that he should open the job...If had a starting QB who led me to a BCS bowl as a redshirt freshman, I'm sticking with him until proves (in a game) that he can't do something physically or mentally that the other guy can do (that being kiel). You best be damned straight that Kiel must have a better grasp of the playbook and provide something that Golson can't....Which in my humble opinion, I have watched scouting films of both and can't put a finger on what exactly Kiel would be that much better at than everett at...

Yup bingo. This guy gets it

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Yeah 30 pounds is all he needs:
Everett Golson- 6'0 185

Cam Newton-6'5 245

Everett needs about 5 inches and 60 pounds. No I see Golson progressing into more of a pass first run when need be kind of guy. John Elway was that way. (I'm not saying he's going to become the next Elway or anything he was just pass first run if need be QB.)

Dude thats my sig...

 

[ickythump1225]

I am not saying that he should open the job...If had a starting QB who led me to a BCS bowl as a redshirt freshman, I'm sticking with him until proves (in a game) that he can't do something physically or mentally that the other guy can do (that being kiel). You best be damned straight that Kiel must have a better grasp of the playbook and provide something that Golson can't....Which in my humble opinion, I have watched scouting films of both and can't put a finger on what exactly Kiel would be that much better at than everett at...

Agreed. I think people get too caught up in scouting reports and "potential" and forget about what's happening. Now if Tommy Rees was starting this year I could really see opening up the job next year because Tommy Rees is what he is at this point. He's reached the peak intersection of physical and mental skills. EG has not yet. What we saw in OU was just a flash of what he can develop into.

 

[woolybug25]

If you follow recruiting at all....that was his original commitment prior to flipping to LSU then to ND....He is from southern Indiana....Columbus to be exact...and his brother plays there now...soooo, call me crazy....its logical....

"If I follow recruiting at all".... b!tch please....


Nobody on here followed Kiel more than me on here. Nobody.

 

[Irish YJ]

IF he struggles...

In what was ND's biggest game of the year (and away from home) he learned to throw the ball away and run out of bounds, which were the reasons why he was taken out of earlier games. Don't doubt that he will struggle again just not to the point where Kelly pulls him.

But I agree if struggles badly then Kelly makes the switch.

My bigger concern is him holding on to the ball too long in the pocket and getting smacked hard enough to either a) cause a turnover, or b) hurt him. We all know he can throw on the run. We all know he can run lights out. I guess for me it's 1) getting the playbook down, 2) learning to use all the tools in the tool bag, 3) decision making, and 4) managing the game efficiently and quickly. If he can nail all 4, he will never be pulled again. I've been saying it all year, if he can push plays quicker, and start hitting CB and TE at will, no team can stop us. He's still young, and still has a lot to learn. He will get there, just 50/50 on him not getting pulled again this year (at this time). Ask me again after each game. I hope you are right though!!!!!

 

[Irish YJ]

"If I follow recruiting at all".... b!tch please....


Nobody on here followed Kiel more than me on here. Nobody.

Too F'ing funny. Wooly, I think Clark is serious.

 

[Irish YJ]

All this GK vs EG talk. I trust Kelly to
1- allow all to compete
2- be honest to the kids
3- do what's best for the team (even if it means benching a BCS winning QB, or letting an unproven but potential stud 5star hit the door).

In BK I trust! At least so far.

 

[irishfanjho15]

Yeah 30 pounds is all he needs:
Everett Golson- 6'0 185

Cam Newton-6'5 245

Everett needs about 5 inches and 60 pounds. No I see Golson progressing into more of a pass first run when need be kind of guy. John Elway was that way. (I'm not saying he's going to become the next Elway or anything he was just pass first run if need be QB.)

He already is.

 

[RallySonsOfND]

If you follow recruiting at all....that was his original commitment prior to flipping to LSU then to ND....He is from southern Indiana....Columbus to be exact...and his brother plays there now...soooo, call me crazy....its logical....

lol


Calling out Wooly of all posters about Kiel's recruitment, poor choice brah.

 

[pkt77242]

What a crock of crap. So a #1 QB would never sit for a couple years at Notre Dame, but a #1 QB would want to play at IU?


Some of the things you guys try to predict are hilarious.

See Booty, John David. Enough said.

 

[We_Are_ND]

If Golson put on 30 in offseason we would have the next Cam Newton ... no italics.

Ban him.

 

[ickythump1225]

He already is.

Well right but there have been a few times this year where I believe he's tucked and ran when a bigger passing play was open down field if he would have stayed focused. I believe it happened a couple times in the Stanford game. I know he looks to pass first now but what I meant was he'll continue to progress in the area of keeping his eyes down field looking for an open receiver on a broken play instead of tucking and running when he breaks from the pocket.

 

[NDhoosier]

As a fan of both Notre Dame and IU... I wouldnt mind seeing Kiel transfer to IU and lift that program up a little bit. Of course, him transferring means Golson has solidified the starting position and will be a solid starter for 4 years.