Environmental Issues

[Giddyup]

Glad u just found the board. Should be amusing

 

[Giddyup]

ND warrior pasting shit. Do u have an original thought?

 

[NDWarrior]

Come one man, this is not political. Yes, they are the party in charge (sorry that's a fact) but you need to dive into these peeps behind the scenes, they are strange and a cult and they have very different ideas about how the US and the World should run and it's not appealing by any measure unless you're one of these guys (and I especially say guys because women are not valued by them). Forget about Trump. He's a narcissistic fool who has sold his soul to this Tech Bros. cult in order to be propped up as the King with absolute power.

 

[NDWarrior]

Pasting shit? How do you make that deduction?

 

[NDWarrior]

I understand what Mother Jones is but you're missing the point, regardless, it gives you a good idea of this So Cal cult and how they think, and it's damn scary.

 

[Giddyup]

Cause u just wrote a dissertation in five minutes?

 

[Giddyup]

I understand what Mother Jones is but you're missing the point, regardless, it gives you a good idea of this So Cal cult and how they think, and it's damn scary.

Lol. You're a welcome edition to the mentally ill beta male Dem party here!

 

[NDWarrior]

That Doricko guy is doing all these PR interviews (I saw his Fox one from earlier this week). He comes off as a humanitarian doing Go's work, and simply cloud seeding that is this modest rain-making technology, but it sure sounds like the tech has advanced to a lot more than that and he's not just doing God's work - He's in a cult that thinks they are ordained by God to do this work and control the weather and events. Twisted shit.

 

[NDWarrior]

Sadly, 1) I'm currently looking for a new job (so have more time on my hands) and am highly ADHD but highly curious so go down these research binges, but make no mistake I want to understand what the hell is going on with this country rn.

 

[Giddyup]

You're all over place. You might be in a one man cult

 

[Giddyup]

Sadly, 1) I'm currently looking for a new job (so have more time on my hands) and am highly ADHD but highly curious so go down these research binges, but make no mistake I want to understand what the hell is going on with this country rn.

I hope u get a handle on that. For real, ill say a prayer for u

 

[NDWarrior]

Giddyup, man you are bought and paid. You cannot critically think and are a drone. But hey, you do you man. I don't care about parties and Trump. I care about what's going on in society and how things could be manipulated. I don't take anything coming out of this administration at face value because they just blurt shit out and are not serious about government whether those are more Democratic liberalism or Republican conservative ideas. They are neither. They are all about getting and keeping power and wealth and clamping down on anyone who opposes them, using tech and deceit to help do it.

 

[Giddyup]

Appreciate the feedback. Ill ruminate on it

 

[NDWarrior]

I know I'm setting myself up for ridicule but I am good at reading people and peeps in charge are just not a typical admin. They're people who have been appointed for their loyalty and always saying yes sir and that's about it.

 

[NDWarrior]

Hey, I have spent a lot time researching this shit and yes, it's all speculation (I'm admitting that), but these guys and gals in charge are just plain strange (in a cult like way).

 

[NDWarrior]

This is one of the richest guys in the world (and Elon Musk's chum) who invested $15 mill. to get JD Vance elected to the Senate and likely had a strong say in him being the VP pick for Trump. As you know, his recent breakout company (but has been around for a long time now) Palantir, works very closely with the Trump admin. Does this look like a guy who wants to MAGA? He's walking like he's ashamed and wants to hide. Pure evil...

 

[Irish#1]

Sadly, 1) I'm currently looking for a new job (so have more time on my hands) and am highly ADHD but highly curious so go down these research binges, but make no mistake I want to understand what the hell is going on with this country rn.

Hope you find one soon.

I read an article the other day on the Texas Hill Country. Evidently early warning systems were proposed a couple of times over the last 3-5(?) years and they were voted down by the locals.

Plans for a flood warning system fell apart in Kerr County, leaving it vulnerable

The search for bodies continued nearly a week after deadly flooding in Texas. With 121 people confirmed dead and at least 161 still missing, officials there are facing scrutiny. The National Weather Service issued several watches and warnings before midnight on July 3, but local officials...

www.pbs.org

Looks like it might have been best to move Camp Mystic to another location.

Camp Mystic’s owner warned of floods for decades. Then the river killed him

The Guadalupe River flood claimed 27 lives at Camp Mystic, including local hero Dick Eastland, who died rescuing campers

www.ketv.com

 

[NDWarrior]

All good points, but are more about the warning systems and adjustments. One reason they may have had hesitation could be that based on historical patterns, no one thought the risk was high enough to spend the $ (on early warning systems and moving the camp) which could point to how much of an outlier event this was. Can definitely be mother nature, but again, this sounds like a degree of devastation that this area has never seen and to levels not reached so quickly. The thing is I believe the teams working on this have developed an agent and much improved process to apply the agent (vs. one plane dropping silver iodide). And it sounds like the application has moved to being completed by drones. That Rainmaker CEO mentions none of this even though 6-9 months he was talking about all of this in obscure publication interviews. If I'm right, this is some powerful stuff. I obviously can't prove anything, but we'll see how post-disaster events unfold. I see that Lincoln County NM happened a few days later and 200 homes have been destroyed there. Again, seems to be an all-time worst event that happened quickly and very much an outlier one. Maybe even NC (but not sure about this one) since all three of these locations have some advantages to be AI data center locations and are ones that ironically don't have hight risk of floods (e.g., drought is bigger risk in Hill Country TX and wildfires are bigger risk for NM area). But, if they have perfected this rainmaking ability then they likely can alleviate these drought/wildfire risks. This is technology that could do so much good in the world in the right hands, but may be being co-opted for more nefarious reasons that are causing region/population devastation. Again, I'm highly speculating here and we'll have to see how these areas develop post disaster for potential clues.

 

[Blazers46]

All good points, but are more about the warning systems and adjustments. One reason they may have had hesitation could be that based on historical patterns, no one thought the risk was high enough to spend the $ (on early warning systems and moving the camp) which could point to how much of an outlier event this was. Can definitely be mother nature, but again, this sounds like a degree of devastation that this area has never seen and to levels not reached so quickly. The thing is I believe the teams working on this have developed an agent and much improved process to apply the agent (vs. one plane dropping silver iodide). And it sounds like the application has moved to being completed by drones. That Rainmaker CEO mentions none of this even though 6-9 months he was talking about all of this in obscure publication interviews. If I'm right, this is some powerful stuff. I obviously can't prove anything, but we'll see how post-disaster events unfold. I see that Lincoln County NM happened a few days later and 200 homes have been destroyed there. Again, seems to be an all-time worst event that happened quickly and very much an outlier one. Maybe even NC (but not sure about this one) since all three of these locations have some advantages to be AI data center locations and are ones that ironically don't have hight risk of floods (e.g., drought is bigger risk in Hill Country TX and wildfires are bigger risk for NM area). But, if they have perfected this rainmaking ability then they likely can alleviate these drought/wildfire risks. This is technology that could do so much good in the world in the right hands, but may be being co-opted for more nefarious reasons that are causing region/population devastation. Again, I'm highly speculating here and we'll have to see how these areas develop post disaster for potential clues.

Paragraphs my guy… on my iPhone it’s the bottom right “return” button. Space things out, I’m overwhelmed just scrolling.

 

[Irish#1]

All good points, but are more about the warning systems and adjustments. One reason they may have had hesitation could be that based on historical patterns, no one thought the risk was high enough to spend the $ (on early warning systems and moving the camp) which could point to how much of an outlier event this was. Can definitely be mother nature, but again, this sounds like a degree of devastation that this area has never seen and to levels not reached so quickly. The thing is I believe the teams working on this have developed an agent and much improved process to apply the agent (vs. one plane dropping silver iodide). And it sounds like the application has moved to being completed by drones. That Rainmaker CEO mentions none of this even though 6-9 months he was talking about all of this in obscure publication interviews. If I'm right, this is some powerful stuff. I obviously can't prove anything, but we'll see how post-disaster events unfold. I see that Lincoln County NM happened a few days later and 200 homes have been destroyed there. Again, seems to be an all-time worst event that happened quickly and very much an outlier one. Maybe even NC (but not sure about this one) since all three of these locations have some advantages to be AI data center locations and are ones that ironically don't have hight risk of floods (e.g., drought is bigger risk in Hill Country TX and wildfires are bigger risk for NM area). But, if they have perfected this rainmaking ability then they likely can alleviate these drought/wildfire risks. This is technology that could do so much good in the world in the right hands, but may be being co-opted for more nefarious reasons that are causing region/population devastation. Again, I'm highly speculating here and we'll have to see how these areas develop post disaster for potential clues.

They have had these floods before. They voted against the warning system because they didn’t want to spend the money.

 

[Gladiator]

 

[Gladiator]

 

[Gladiator]

I need one of the environmentalist to prove this wrong.
Otherwise, go on with the real CT, and stop the lies.

 

[NDWarrior]

Because of this, Elon Musk, says fuck the poor regions of the U.S., I need AI DC power so I'm gonna do what I want and will methane gas the residents to death, even if it kills 'em! Supercomputer project led by Musk expands Memphis property holdings

 

[Irish#1]

Because of this, Elon Musk, says fuck the poor regions of the U.S., I need AI DC power so I'm gonna do what I want and will methane gas the residents to death, even if it kills 'em! Supercomputer project led by Musk expands Memphis property holdings

No one seemed too concerned until Musk wants to build a data center? The Boxtown area has been experiencing significant health issues for years. Life expectancy in that area is 10 years less than the average. Seems to me local officials and companies were saying FU to its residents long before Musk came around.

Residents are exposed to a variety of industrial pollutants, including nitrogen oxides (NOx) from a TVA gas plant, as well as emissions from an oil refinery and a steel mill. The area has a history of exceptionally poor air quality and has received an "F" grade from the American Lung Association for its air quality.

 

[RDU Irish]

So now we are going to NIMBY AI data centers?

How economically illiterate does one need to be to think a multi billion dollar investment is bad news for a economically challenged area?

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Glad u just found the board. Should be amusing

I don’t know if the board can handle anymore amusement than we get from you.

 

[NDWarrior]

So now we are going to NIMBY AI data centers?

How economically illiterate does one need to be to think a multi billion dollar investment is bad news for a economically challenged area?

Whoa there RUDE, er, I mean RDU Irish person. Who said NIMBY? How about Musk can be a bit more transparent and maybe divulge some plans where he's going to leverage cleaner energy sources (hydrogen, nuclear, etc.) for DC expansion in the future (Not saying Zuckerberg is a saint, but he at least he's fronting using solar and nuclear down the road and working with the Richland Parish, LA region for his newest Manhattan sized AI DC)? And how about he follow some of the local government processes like getting the proper local permits. And maybe trying to balance the need for scaling AI infrastructure as quickly as possible with trying to include some emission reducing technology in the mix? He snuck this DC into this poor region via a I'm sure fire-sale old Electorlux factory site, and likely shirked a lot of regulations. And this kind of feels like, if Musk finds or builds a better facility down the road, he's just going to abandon this makeshift operation that's serving his need for immediate AI power capacity on the cheap, leaving behind a big, extended emissions shit on the region.

Economically challenged? Uh, it sounds like to me, pretty poor and black, and to Irish#1's point, an area that has been getting shit on with emissions for decades (which doesn't make piling on more to somehow be ok). And DCs usually bring a burst of jobs in the short term for construction and this was more of a conversion of an existing factory so not much construction there (and something tells me there wouldn't be much hiring of locals anyway). And longer term, if Musk even sticks around, DCs take 50-100 people (if not less) to run long term, if that. And tax collections vs. tax incentives are a mixed bag.

So forgive the locals and myself for being "economically illiterate" and caring about a situation where a super-rich guy who is a terrible human being and supreme manipulator runs roughshod over a community just because they have a long history of being shit on and figures no one cares. So yes, I'm noticing Musk and his usual tactics here, but they are definitely not the only region grappling and dealing with both the benefits and downsides (natural gas powered DC emissions pollution, strain on the grid and on the water supply, etc.) of these rapidly proliferating DCs being built across the country rn (see New Braunfels in Hays County Texas where a new Cloudburst DC is being built).

 

[NDWarrior]

I don’t know if the board can handle anymore amusement than we get from you.

Ah, Giddyup... My #1 Fan! Thank you sir...

 

[Irish#1]

Whoa there RUDE, er, I mean RDU Irish person. Who said NIMBY? How about Musk can be a bit more transparent and maybe divulge some plans where he's going to leverage cleaner energy sources (hydrogen, nuclear, etc.) for DC expansion in the future (Not saying Zuckerberg is a saint, but he at least he's fronting using solar and nuclear down the road and working with the Richland Parish, LA region for his newest Manhattan sized AI DC)? And how about he follow some of the local government processes like getting the proper local permits. And maybe trying to balance the need for scaling AI infrastructure as quickly as possible with trying to include some emission reducing technology in the mix? He snuck this DC into this poor region via a I'm sure fire-sale old Electorlux factory site, and likely shirked a lot of regulations. And this kind of feels like, if Musk finds or builds a better facility down the road, he's just going to abandon this makeshift operation that's serving his need for immediate AI power capacity on the cheap, leaving behind a big, extended emissions shit on the region.

Economically challenged? Uh, it sounds like to me, pretty poor and black, and to Irish#1's point, an area that has been getting shit on with emissions for decades (which doesn't make piling on more to somehow be ok). And DCs usually bring a burst of jobs in the short term for construction and this was more of a conversion of an existing factory so not much construction there (and something tells me there wouldn't be much hiring of locals anyway). And longer term, if Musk even sticks around, DCs take 50-100 people (if not less) to run long term, if that. And tax collections vs. tax incentives are a mixed bag.

So forgive the locals and myself for being "economically illiterate" and caring about a situation where a super-rich guy who is a terrible human being and supreme manipulator runs roughshod over a community just because they have a long history of being shit on and figures no one cares. So yes, I'm noticing Musk and his usual tactics here, but they are definitely not the only region grappling and dealing with both the benefits and downsides (natural gas powered DC emissions pollution, strain on the grid and on the water supply, etc.) of these rapidly proliferating DCs being built across the country rn (see New Braunfels in Hays County Texas where a new Cloudburst DC is being built).

I never said it was okay to pile on because the area has already been crapped upon.

My point which you missed, is that I just find it amusing that you want to crap on Musk when there were already plenty of guilty parties to bitch about who by the way, have been documented to have already impacted the residents health.