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ColoradoIrish

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This sort of completely ridiculous immoral crap and willful disassociation from common sense is a huge part of why the Left got tossed from power across the board last week.
First of all this shit absolutely ridiculous and wrong on every level. But what are placing blame on the left? You realize there were multiple attempts to shore up child marriage laws across multiple states in the past year, and the reason they failed were because Republicans? We all agree pedophilia is wrong, don't try to politicize something that doesn't need to be.
 

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First of all this shit absolutely ridiculous and wrong on every level. But what are placing blame on the left? You realize there were multiple attempts to shore up child marriage laws across multiple states in the past year, and the reason they failed were because Republicans? We all agree pedophilia is wrong, don't try to politicize something that doesn't need to be.
Two separate issues. I agree that the marriage laws should be upped to age 18. But a person wanting to marry someone who's 16 or 17 doesn't seem to meet the definition of pedophilia. That involves a sexual attraction to prepubescent children.
 
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ColoradoIrish

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Two separate issues. I agree that the marriage laws should be upped to age 18. But a person wanting to marry someone who's 16 or 17 doesn't seem to meet the definition of pedophilia. That involves a sexual attraction to prepubescent children.
And not passing those laws allows those who are sexually attracted to someone under the age of 18 to marry. They're not equal correct, but the laws would go a long way in protecting children from pedophiles. Pedophiles are mentally unwell and in my opinion evil people regardless of political affiliation. I'm just tired of seeing stuff like this being blamed only on one group of people when it couldn't be further from the truth.
 
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ColoradoIrish

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Obviously you can be a pedophile no matter your politics. The “scholars” trying to pimp it is what is disturbing.
But Bishop specifically said the left. The scholars in that video are nut jobs
 

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And not passing those laws allows those who are sexually attracted to someone under the age of 18 to marry. They're not equal correct, but the laws would go a long way in protecting children from pedophiles. Pedophiles are mentally unwell and in my opinion evil people regardless of political affiliation. I'm just tired of seeing stuff like this being blamed only on one group of people when it couldn't be further from the truth.
Agree, I doubt that pedophiles lean more one way than the other. However, marrying under 18 and trying to normalize Pedophilia are not the same. I have nothing to base it upon, but marrying someone 15-17, strikes me as being counter to what a pedophile would want. After all, someone 15-17 has went through puberty and is (physically 90%?) and adult at that point.
 
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Agree, I doubt that pedophiles lean more one way than the other. However, marrying under 18 and trying to normalize Pedophilia are not the same. I have nothing to base it upon, but marrying someone 15-17, strikes me as being counter to what a pedophile would want. After all, someone 15-17 has went through puberty and is (physically 90%?) and adult at that point.
 

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But Bishop specifically said the left. The scholars in that video are nut jobs
I wasn't saying that all pedophiles are liberals or all liberals are pedophiles. I'm sure most liberals aren't and pedophiles are to be found on both sides of the aisle. My assertion was that anytime you find someone whose research says pedophilia is not bad, someone who wants it decriminalized, or is trying to normalize it, you can safely give 99-1 odds they're on the left side of the political spectrum.
 

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Oh here we go, we're about to throw out false claims and then when asked for proof.....we will see the disappearance act.

Guess we'll throw this up beside that history lesson we were all expecting to rebut Bluto's post.
 
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I wasn't saying that all pedophiles are liberals or all liberals are pedophiles. I'm sure most liberals aren't and pedophiles are to be found on both sides of the aisle. My assertion was that anytime you find someone whose research says pedophilia is not bad, someone who wants it decriminalized, or is trying to normalize it, you can safely give 99-1 odds they're on the left side of the political spectrum.
Anything to back up your claims or is that pure conjecture?
 

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Anything to back up your claims or is that pure conjecture?
It's been my experience. I've never heard a conservative push for legalizing pedophilia or citing/conducting studies saying it's fine, nor ever seen or heard of one trying to normalize it. Every time I've ever seen or heard of such, it was a liberal, in a liberal publication, or otherwise associated with leftist groups or persons.
 

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Oh here we go, we're about to throw out false claims and then when asked for proof.....we will see the disappearance act.

Guess we'll throw this up beside that history lesson we were all expecting to rebut Bluto's post.
Haven't you taken enough of a beating lately with the cock obsession post, the election, and so on? FFS dude, grow up, take a break from being a snarky immature shithead annoying everyone. You don't have to go bear hunting every day and beg for the abuse. Read more, learn more, talk less.
 
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It's been my experience. I've never heard a conservative push for legalizing pedophilia or citing/conducting studies saying it's fine, nor ever seen or heard of one trying to normalize it. Every time I've ever seen or heard of such, it was a liberal, in a liberal publication, or otherwise associated with leftist groups or persons.
So no, you have nothing to back up your claims. And instead you paint with a broad brush and just spout nonsense.
 

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So no, you have nothing to back up your claims. And instead you paint with a broad brush and just spout nonsense.
I have what I've experienced and seen in my life. You do realize that not everything is backed up by an in-depth study, stats, and so on, right? Most of what we know comes simply from what we've experienced. I've never seen or heard of a conservative tying to normalize or decriminalize pedophilia. I've seen and heard lots of liberals do so. That's my experience. If yours is different, good for you, but that's been mine.
 
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ColoradoIrish

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I have what I've experienced and seen in my life. You do realize that not everything is backed up by an in-depth study, stats, and so on, right? Most of what we know comes simply from what we've experienced. I've never seen or heard of a conservative tying to normalize or decriminalize pedophilia. I've seen and heard lots of liberals do so. That's my experience. If yours is different, good for you, but that's been mine.
My experience is opposite most people that I've ever seen have been religious and conservative and there's actual data to back it up. Look at southern Baptists in Texas, the Catholic Church worldwide. I can provide sources as well.
 

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Haven't you taken enough of a beating lately with the cock obsession post, the election, and so on? FFS dude, grow up, take a break from being a snarky immature shithead annoying everyone. You don't have to go bear hunting every day and beg for the abuse. Read more, learn more, talk less.
Beating? Buddy you've actively ran and hid from any sort of discussion. You literally can't have a discussion with anyone without melting down.

Don't waste your time on me, why don't you actually respond to good faith posters like Bluto or Colorado. Can you show everyone that I'm the immature one? You think that's something you're capable of? Or are you going to hide lol.
 

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My experience is opposite most people that I've ever seen have been religious and conservative and there's actual data to back it up. Look at southern Baptists in Texas, the Catholic Church worldwide. I can provide sources as well.
Do you mean that most of the people you've seen who advocate for decriminalizing or normalizing pedophilia are religious or conservative? I'm trying to make sure I don't misinterpret your position.
 
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Do you mean that most of the people you've seen who advocate for decriminalizing or normalizing pedophilia are religious or conservative? I'm trying to make sure I don't misinterpret your position.
Those defending/excusing it.
 

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Beating? Buddy you've actively ran and hid from any sort of discussion. You literally can't have a discussion with anyone without melting down.

Don't waste your time on me, why don't you actually respond to good faith posters like Bluto or Colorado. Can you show everyone that I'm the immature one? You think that's something you're capable of? Or are you going to hide lol.
You can't help yourself, can you?
 
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ColoradoIrish

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Do you mean that most of the people you've seen who advocate for decriminalizing or normalizing pedophilia are religious or conservative? I'm trying to make sure I don't misinterpret your position.
Hell even on here it's the conservatives arguing semantics over what ages even qualify as making someone pedophile
 

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Hell even on here it's the conservatives arguing semantics over what ages even qualify as making someone pedophile
I've read those posts and generally agree with them. They're just making a distinction between attraction to a young child and a teenager. Not that either is OK, but there's a huge difference in how not OK when you're talking about a 7-year-old vs. a 17-year-old.
 

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Pointing blame first at the Catholic church when it comes to pedophilia is an old and lazy take. I'm not excusing what happened in the past, and what still probably happens today, heads should roll. It's just tiring to see it come up first and foremost, when today you're exponentially more likely to be abused by a teacher than a priest. If we're going to talk about the modern day problems, teachers need to be included when we're listing main offenders.
 
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ColoradoIrish

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Pointing blame first at the Catholic church when it comes to pedophilia is an old and lazy take. I'm not excusing what happened in the past, and what still probably happens today, heads should roll. It's just tiring to see it come up first and foremost, when today you're exponentially more likely to be abused by a teacher than a priest. If we're going to talk about the modern day problems, teachers need to be included when we're listing main offenders.
It's not when myself and others I know personally suffered abuse at the hands of Catholic priests.
 

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Why aren't you responding to Bluto? You said you would. Are you that afraid? Why respond to me when you could owning another lib?
Thanks for reminding me. I just finished my 6th consecutive 12-hour day at the hospital, so exhaustion has done a number on my memory this week. I'll gladly respond to him, though you may wish you hadn't reminded me. Why don't you try engaging in normal adult dialogue instead of desperately trying to "get even" and pick fights. It never works out for you and just leads to you getting embarrassed and laughed at by half the board. FFS Toronto, learn a lesson and take a break from it, bro.
 

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I don't know where to put this. I just want to brag on my son. His high school Chemistry teacher looked him in the eye and said 'Connor, I should let you come up here and teach this class for awhile'. He's killing geometry and Calculus as well.

My heart is bursting with pride. He's so much smarter than his dad.
 
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