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ab2cmiller

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Ryne Sandberg needs to be the manager after the disaster this season. Mike Quade was in over his head from the get go and may as well have let the "veterans" run the asylum from day 1. He was a joke. Sandberg is a Hall of Famer who rode the buses in the minor leagues because GM Jim Hendry told him to learn the trade. Sandberg does that and then gets snubbed. I will give FnBoy Ricketts one more opportunity to get this right.

I would tend to agree. The only person Quade seemed to yell at was Castro. Of course the things he was yelling at Castro for, was the same things Soriano and Ramirez were doing all season. I'm afraid right now there is a culture of laziness and "doing the minimum" on the Cubs and the lack of effort results in a lousy sloppy team.
 

chgocub23

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Theo Epstein as gm COME ON DOWN! I would gladly take him in a heartbeat, maybe he can bring Terry Francona with him. I would love that.
 

ab2cmiller

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I think Francona is not what the Cubs need. He has the same reputation as Quade does. He is a players manager and seems to rarely call players out.

Here is a blurb from a NY Post article which seems to sum up what a lot of people are saying about Francona
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Now when I ask on Francona, I hear that his players’ manager style of staying calmly above the fray is not working. You hear words like “rudderless” used to describe these faltering Red Sox. There has been a lot of talk that many of Francona’s players are out of shape and that he has done nothing to stop that. There is worry that he has done nothing to extinguish veteran cliques that have made players feel over-privileged. That John Lackey has on several occasions felt empowered enough to show up Francona when he is being taken out of games is seen by some in Red Sox management as a sign of too little intervention by the manager, too much of the inmates running the asylum.

Read more: 3UP: Reyes, Posada, Francona
 

chgocub23

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Interesting. I stand corrected. Who are you thinking then? other than Ryne, hypothetically say he's not available
 

ab2cmiller

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Interesting. I stand corrected. Who are you thinking then? other than Ryne, hypothetically say he's not available

I'm at a loss to who would be the best option.

One interesting name that is out there is former Cub, Davey Martinez who has been the bench coach for the Rays the past 4 seasons. I know he has been mentioned as a possible candidate for several openings including the White Sox.

Interesting name in the sense that Davey Martinez was rumored to have had an affair with Ryne Sandberg's first wife. I don't know if those rumors are true or not, but could you imagine Ryno's reaction if it was true and Davey was picked as the Cubs coach over Ryno?
 
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HereComeTheIrish

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Interesting. I stand corrected. Who are you thinking then? other than Ryne, hypothetically say he's not available

I forget who I was listening too, but Bud Black, Sandy Alomar Jr. and Terry Francona were all mentioned.
 

Irishnuke

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ESPN reported that Epstein talked to Sandberg to let him know he's NOT a candidate. I'm thinking Francona.
 

chgocub23

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I'm not one for adding another giant salary to this club at the moment. But now that they've hired Sveum, is there a chance the Cubs try to grab Fielder?

I sure hope not, We need to reload our minor league system bad. I'm willing to wait out another terrible year to bring up the young guys. I'm tired of spending on free agents who don't pan out.
 

woolybug25

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ND=Cubs. Always praying for success...

Bite your tongue. ND has had a massive amount of success over the course of it's history. The Cubs have always sucked. We might not have won big lately... but at least ND has won it all in my lifetime. There probably isn't a Cubs fan alive that has seen them win a championship.
 

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The problem here is that their success is in the past-history-not recently. I was a fan when ND won it and I've been a fan when the Cubbies came close all those times. I want something in the present-the here and now!
 

woolybug25

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The problem here is that their success is in the past-history-not recently. I was a fan when ND won it and I've been a fan when the Cubbies came close all those times. I want something in the present-the here and now!

Came close all of those times? They have only made the NLCS three times in their history (for comparison, the Cards have been there 6 times since 2000). They haven't even been to the World Series since 1945. I don't see being close in MLB unless you play in the World Series, and unless you are at least 66 years old, you have never seen that happen. That is vastly different than Notre Dame's NC drought stemming from 1988.
 
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Came close all of those times? They have only made the NLCS three times in their history (for comparison, the Cards have been there 6 times since 2000). They haven't even been to the World Series since 1945. I don't see being close in MLB unless you play in the World Series, and unless you are at least 66 years old, you have never seen that happen. That is vastly different than Notre Dame's NC drought stemming from 1988.

Why are you here, in this thread?

You're a ****in' chump man.

Go away.

No one needs your useless stats for nothing else other than talking ****.

Baseball is all about getting hot at the right time. Fortunately for the Shart-inals, they were heating up when the really good teams cooled down. That Card record, if you want a stat, is nothing to be proud of at all.
 

woolybug25

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The Cards have gone to more than double the amount of NLCS's since 2000 than the Cubs have gone to period. I am proud of that. Here's another one.... Since '06, the Card's have won the same amount of World Series as the Cubs have won in their entire history.

I try not to come down here and bust on you lowly Cub fans too much, but I will not stand for ND - Cubs comparisons. That is aggression that simply wont stand.

I love all of you...
 
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johnnykillz

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The Cards have gone to more than double the amount of NLCS's since 2000 than the Cubs have gone to period. I am proud of that. Here's another one.... Since '06, the Card's have won the same amount of World Series as the Cubs have won in their entire history.

I try not to come down here and bust on you lowly Cub fans too much, but I will not stand for ND - Cubs comparisons. That is aggression that simply wont stand.

I love all of you...

I think the naturally close proximity creates fanbase comparisons.

Aggression?

I think the Gunner lovemaking to your hand is too much as well, but seldom do I encroach on your unnatural thread evoking your homosexual tendencies that would make Freud blush.

Oh, and I love you too. (I just wouldn't shake your hand until you washed it.) Go Cubs!
 

woolybug25

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I think the naturally close proximity creates fanbase comparisons.

Aggression?

I think the Gunner lovemaking to your hand is too much as well, but seldom do I encroach on your unnatural thread evoking your homosexual tendencies that would make Freud blush.

Oh, and I love you too. (I just wouldn't shake your hand until you washed it.) Go Cubs!

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HereComeTheIrish

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Why are you here, in this thread?

You're a ****in' chump man.

Go away.

No one needs your useless stats for nothing else other than talking ****.

Baseball is all about getting hot at the right time. Fortunately for the Shart-inals, they were heating up when the really good teams cooled down. That Card record, if you want a stat, is nothing to be proud of at all.

I think the naturally close proximity creates fanbase comparisons.

Aggression?

I think the Gunner lovemaking to your hand is too much as well, but seldom do I encroach on your unnatural thread evoking your homosexual tendencies that would make Freud blush.

Oh, and I love you too. (I just wouldn't shake your hand until you washed it.) Go Cubs!

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woolybug25

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If Johnny and I go to the bar, he would eventually break his beer bottle and shank me.

Later, we would hug it out in the parking lot and have a good, solid cry.

We would go back into the bar and do whiskey shots until I needed to go to the hospital (see earlier shanking).

Johnny would take me to the hospital and hold my hand as they sew me up.

That's what BFF's are about.

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